Ruger .44 Special Question

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Does anyone know if a Ruger 9mm cyl. can be rechambered to .44-40 and is it long enough to fit in the Lipsey's .44 Special Blackhawk? Colt has made a .44 Spl./.44-40 combo in the past. I just wondered if it would work in the Ruger using a 9mm cyl. Any thoughts?
 
That´s a good question. I shoot 44-40 as well as .44 Spcl., but have never loaded a 44-40 with smokeless, only with real BP. The 44-40 can be tempermental to reload but that is mainly due to undersized throats. I had all the throats on my 44-40 revolvers opened up to 0.431 and they shoot ragged holes now. :wink:
 
An Old Model 9mm may be long enough.

A New Model .9mm is for a larger frame size than Ruger's current(Lipsey's & catalog) .44 specials and simply won't work in the gun.

A New Model .357 flattop cylinder is too short to work in the .44 special unless you set the barrel back a turn and face off the front of the .44 special cylinder accordingly.

Note you may need a special reamer and dies made to load "good" ammo with .430-.432 bullets.

The .44-40 is intended for a .427 bullet.
 
Aggie01":115rtokh said:
...Note you may need a special reamer and dies made to load "good" ammo with .430-.432 bullets.

The .44-40 is intended for a .427 bullet.

I load 0.430 bullets in 44-40 with no problem using Lee dies. Then again, I don´t resize the cases but rather deprime by hand (faster) and then reload but using a Lee FC die for a final crimp.

The 44-40 as originally loaded was all over the map dimensionally from 0.423 to 0.427 and even larger, depending on the factory load and/or chambering. There were no SAAMI specs in 1873 of course. The most important factor for a 44-40 revolver (or any revolver for that matter) is to have chamber mouths AT LEAST the same as groove diameter and 0.001 - 0.0015 larger is better.
 
I have a 7.5" 44-40 Vaquero stainless that came with tight throats. I had Cylindersmith open them up and it shoots commercial 200gr cast bullets sized to .427 like a rifle. I consider myself lucky.

Also using RCBS dies and a Lee FCD, I never have any problems loading the cases. My 200 gr bullets do have a slight bevel base which probably helps and I use Starline brass.

Sorry, didn't mean to hijack the thread.

Also the difference in the cylinder size is significant between the Vaquero and my Lipsey's 44.

Dan
 
Rainman":imkopwps said:
Also the difference in the cylinder size is significant between the Vaquero and my Lipsey's 44.

Dan

Yes, it certainly is! The Vaquero .44-40 was built on the Large Frame whereas the .44 Specials are built on the Medium Frames.

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