RMR on a Midframe Blackhawk
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contender
Ruger Guru
I'm not one much for acronyms so I often get confused by some out there. Are you asking about a .22 magnum RF in a mid framed Blackhawk. (Please excuse my old school, non-texting type of thinking where initials for stuff isn't normal to me.)
needsmostuff
Blackhawk
I'm guessing a RMR is a red dot sight and no, I don't think anyone is making a mount for a flat top yet.
contender
Ruger Guru
"Oh good, its not just me.
No clue what RMR is."
I once had a truly wise man tell me; "If you do not know something,, ask,, for only a fool will not admit they are un-informed." None of us know everything,, and we are always willing to learn.
No clue what RMR is."
I once had a truly wise man tell me; "If you do not know something,, ask,, for only a fool will not admit they are un-informed." None of us know everything,, and we are always willing to learn.
Well I too am clueless about it's meaning.
dwayne
Single-Sixer
I’d assume the OP is referencing the Trijicon RMR red dot sight. I have a couple of the 3 MOA versions on Freedom Arms revolvers using the Freedom Arms mount and, in my opinion, they are an excellent choice.
k2nd
Single-Sixer
RMR is a red dot sight from Trijicon.
https://www.trijicon.com/products/subcategory/trijicon-rmr
You should check jackweigand.com for a mount.
k2nd
https://www.trijicon.com/products/subcategory/trijicon-rmr
You should check jackweigand.com for a mount.
k2nd
I am having an old model 41 Blackhawk rebarreled and a special mount made for an RMR sight. The gun was Roy Fishpaws hunting revolver but he had a long rail mounted for a tube red dot that used holes drilled in the barrel and main frame thus the remodel.
contender
Ruger Guru
Ok,, so now we know what the RMR may be. The wording of "RMR IN a Blackhawk" instead of ON a Blackhawk was adding to the confusion.
As noted,, if RMR is a red dot,, then many folks are now adding a red dot to Blackhawks. All it takes is a correct mount, and maybe a D&T.
As noted,, if RMR is a red dot,, then many folks are now adding a red dot to Blackhawks. All it takes is a correct mount, and maybe a D&T.
NikA
Hunter
I believe the source of the OP's question was that there don't appear to be optics mounts available for the midframe/flattop Blackhawks.
I searched a bit when the question was posted but could not come up with a solution. That said, the RMR mounts are pretty simple, I would guess one could be purchased for a standard Blackhawk and milled down to fit a flattop.
I searched a bit when the question was posted but could not come up with a solution. That said, the RMR mounts are pretty simple, I would guess one could be purchased for a standard Blackhawk and milled down to fit a flattop.
Ok... have to ask ... Why? Doesn't it make it hard to slap into and out off leather and then carry in the field? Doesn't open sights work just fine at 'short gun' distances? Seems like adding do-dads to a six-gun just defeat the purpose of a sixgun to begin with
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contender
Ruger Guru
Rclark. MANY handgun hunters use a single-action revolver for hunting,, (myself included,) and "short gun distances" are often a LOT further than you'd think. MANY handgunners shoot out to 100 yds (and further,) often. And aging eyes using a red dot helps hunt at greater distances, OR to actually see the target aiming point easier.
I took a special .45 Colt handgun to Colorado on an elk hunt in 2019. It was an "El Dorado" and I wanted to use it for my elk. My back-up was a Freedom Arms in 454 with a red dot. Followed by a "what the heck back-up, back-up Ruger Hunter in .41 mag with a scope. I was ready for anything out to around 200 yds.
I know many folks feel that 25 yds is the longest distance a handgun should be used. But remember,, silhouette shooters compete at 200 meters. Red dot's on a SA handgun do look a bit different,, but it also looks different on a DA handgun. But it works quite well, and especially if hunting,, a clean, one shot kill is desired. So adding an optic to help this is an ethical reason as well.
BTW; Come to my range & I'll take a Ruger SA handgun, open sights, 4-5/8" bbl, and shoot at 100 yds. Then I'll take a red dot topped one, and do the same. You will see a difference in group sizes.
In short, it's just another tool to be used to help a shooter. And different shooters have different needs.
I took a special .45 Colt handgun to Colorado on an elk hunt in 2019. It was an "El Dorado" and I wanted to use it for my elk. My back-up was a Freedom Arms in 454 with a red dot. Followed by a "what the heck back-up, back-up Ruger Hunter in .41 mag with a scope. I was ready for anything out to around 200 yds.
I know many folks feel that 25 yds is the longest distance a handgun should be used. But remember,, silhouette shooters compete at 200 meters. Red dot's on a SA handgun do look a bit different,, but it also looks different on a DA handgun. But it works quite well, and especially if hunting,, a clean, one shot kill is desired. So adding an optic to help this is an ethical reason as well.
BTW; Come to my range & I'll take a Ruger SA handgun, open sights, 4-5/8" bbl, and shoot at 100 yds. Then I'll take a red dot topped one, and do the same. You will see a difference in group sizes.
In short, it's just another tool to be used to help a shooter. And different shooters have different needs.
needsmostuff
Blackhawk
Rclark said:
Rclark said:
Well, just because why not. It's an interesting endeavor for those so interested. My gun, my money, my choice.
protoolman
Service-Sixer
I could put a 4-12 Leupold on my grandpa's 1886 Winchester too but I ain't gonna do it.
contender
Ruger Guru
"I could put a 4-12 Leupold on my grandpa's 1886 Winchester too but I ain't gonna do it."
I fully understand,, but I'd bet good money somebody has done it.
I fully understand,, but I'd bet good money somebody has done it.
Rclark said:Ok... have to ask ... Why? Doesn't it make it hard to slap into and out off leather and then carry in the field? Doesn't open sights work just fine at 'short gun' distances? Seems like adding do-dads to a six-gun just defeat the purpose of a sixgun to begin with
Bifocals.
I'm no longer able to see open sights good enough for hunting. I put a RMR on my .22 pistol and the fun is back for squirrels, rabbits, vermin, etc. The goal is to resume handgun hunting for deer.
I'll tackle the leather thing once the piece is mounted. One thing at a time, lol.
You might be able to get something from Weigand to start with. I'd certainly contact them and discuss this with them. Couldn't hurt.
https://www.jackweigand.com/
Good luck.
https://www.jackweigand.com/
Good luck.
contender
Ruger Guru
No problem on my lack of understanding. I teach folks; "If you don't know something,, ask." I didn't know what you meant,, and the confusion in how it was written helped confuse me.
And as noted; look at the weigand mounts before you drill & tap. Worst case,, you drill & tap a mount & not the gun,, maybe?
And as noted; look at the weigand mounts before you drill & tap. Worst case,, you drill & tap a mount & not the gun,, maybe?
rkrcpa
Single-Sixer
I have a mount for my regular Blackhawk that only uses the rear sight elevation screw. The sights are so light that you don't run a risk of shearing the bolt. You should be able to get away with any flat bottom mount and a single screw hole. If the single screw really bothers you I would suggest double sided tape to provide additional grip. The mount on my 41 mag has not moved even though it is held in place with only a one screw.
contender said:No problem on my lack of understanding. I teach folks; "If you don't know something,, ask." I didn't know what you meant,, and the confusion in how it was written helped confuse me.
And as noted; look at the weigand mounts before you drill & tap. Worst case,, you drill & tap a mount & not the gun,, maybe?
Lol, 38,000 posts but still can't use the google. Try "meaning rmr gun" next time. Beats obtuse everytime.
"Ruggedized Miniature Reflex Sight"
Improperly used by many to describe a large number of sights which aren't RMR, it's sort of become a descriptive for any/all of the small 'dot' sights.
As for the capabilities, I'll agree with Contender on the benefits of the concept.
Even with geezer eyes, I can put a 22 bullet on a saucer @100 yards with a dot sighted 4' barrel.
"Slapping in/out of leather" is not on my play list but I do have a couple of purpose built holsters for dot sighted handguns that don't slow the deployment of the gun at all.
Improperly used by many to describe a large number of sights which aren't RMR, it's sort of become a descriptive for any/all of the small 'dot' sights.
As for the capabilities, I'll agree with Contender on the benefits of the concept.
Even with geezer eyes, I can put a 22 bullet on a saucer @100 yards with a dot sighted 4' barrel.
"Slapping in/out of leather" is not on my play list but I do have a couple of purpose built holsters for dot sighted handguns that don't slow the deployment of the gun at all.
thor's daddy
Single-Sixer
A bit late to this discussion, but I'll throw in with what I know. There's a company called Raptor Engineering that made a flattop-specific mount for the DeltaPoint, RMR, et al. They ceased production in the Fall of 2020 due to the fires in California at the time and have yet to start up again.
I certainly wish they would, or that another small producer would pick up the ball as there's definitely a need. I'm fairly surprised EWG doesn't make one.
I certainly wish they would, or that another small producer would pick up the ball as there's definitely a need. I'm fairly surprised EWG doesn't make one.
I e-mailed Weigands last week and got a prompt reply from Jack stating that they do not have a Flattop mount. He also gave no indication of one in the works.
Have searched the interwebs high and low with no success, so off to the drawing board.
Have searched the interwebs high and low with no success, so off to the drawing board.
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