Replacement or changing color on guide gun stock

[LeducAb]

Hello.

Hopefully I'm not committing blasphemy, but I can't stand the color on my new guide gun. It's the 47130 in .416 and I don't like the green mountain look.

I asked Boyd's if they have a replacement, but they don't or I should say the can't guarantee that one of theirs will fit because they don't specifically list a stock for it.

First question I guess would be if anyone knows if there are interchangeable stocks.
Second question if that's not possible would be if anyone has changed the color on a laminated stock.

I searched high and low on the internet so far I seem to be getting a lot of info on old laminated sks's and such.

Nobody seems to have good advice on a brand new gun stock.

Any points in the right direction would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance !

Jeff

 

[NikA]

The consensus that I've seen from grip makers here and elsewhere is that the wood is dyed before it's laminated, such that reshaping and/or refinishing it will not remove the coloration. I don't know if this would also be true for laminated stocks but imagine it would be since the sources for the raw materials are probably the same. Hopefully someone else here can provide you with alternatives that would fit your gun.

 

[Jimbo357mag]

If you wear tinted shooting glasses it might change the color a little more to your liking. :wink: :roll: :roll:

 

[contender]

Ask a few woodworkers. Maybe they have an idea or two. If no replacement is available,,, maybe they can guide you in how to add a different color to it.

 

[Chuck 100 yd]

Paint.

 

[cas6969]

Strip it and stain it. If you don't like it now, what do you have to lose?

 

[Chuck 100 yd]

Those laminated stocks have dyed wood laminations that are dyed before they are laminated and the resin goes all the way through the wood. I doubt you could stain it. Stain cant soak into the resin impregnated wood. A tinted top coat could be used to darken but no way can it be changed by very much in color. It could be painted in camo or dip coated.

 

[LeducAb]

Hmmm. So it seems there is no interchange. Replacement was my preferred option. I kinda like those thumbhole stocks Boyd's offers.

As far as color I appreciate what everyone has said. I don't want to chance wrecking it. I'm not a fan, but I don't want it looking horrible either.

I am going to dig a bit with wood refinished and see what happens from there. I will post when I get an answer either way.

Thanks!

 

[powder smoke]

Strip it and stain it. If you don't like it now, what do you have to lose?

Exactly darker the color of stain the more hiding power it has.

Someone mentioned laminated stocks are pre stained before assembly.
In my years of wood work that make little sense. For the simple reason
When wood is laminated a virgin clean surface is desirable for adhesives to bond
the glue needs to penetrate wood fiber. Stains would hinder the process.

All that said new techniques come along all the time as well as adhesives suppose.
it could be possible. But imo unlikely.

So sanding should remove most of the coloration imo. You have nothing to lose
just stain afterwards. I like Tru Oil for the finish. ps

 

[Busterswoodshop]

The easiest way would be to paint it.
Then you should be able to remove the paint pretty easy with lacquer thinner if you ever want to change it back.
Other than that as stated above strip it and refinish it.

If you want to open your wallet Lawson's in Tucson will make you a beautiful thumbhole stock.
It will probably cost you $1500 or more though.

I don't care for laminated stocks either.

 

[Chuck 100 yd]

If it was stained after glue up, how in the world could they get one layer gray,one layer blue,one layer another color?
I have one that has layers of brown ,blue,green and yellow. As in natural camo.
All or most of the laminated stock wood is made by one company and they use birch
Veneer to make it similar to Baltic Birch plywood so there are zero voids unlike normal plywood. The layers are dyed before it is laminated and it is glued up using fenolic (sp.?) resin and is cured under high pressure and very high heat. The finish goes clean through. It realy needs no finish and can just be polished to a soft sheen. Finish can be applied if a deeper or high gloss is wanted. Oil finishes or stain will not soak into it. Laquer or plastic type finishes will work.
Look it up on line and read all about it. I did several years ago. Sorry,no link.

Rutland is the mill in Vermont. Shockeys gunstock web site has a great writeup
About it online.

 

[powder smoke]

Chuck, the process they use is unfamiliar to me just saying from my experience.

As I mentioned new methods and techniques show up all the time!
Never really looked into it altho I will. Thanks ps

 

[RoninPA]

Because of the way the stock is manufactured, you could have it Cerakoted to a color that you like/want (they have over 150 different colors). It won't look like a nice walnut stock (more like a polymer stock) but it will cover the laminate colors.

 

[Snake45]

Paint.

This.

Also, doesn't someone do some kind of a "dip" process that puts a nice wood finish on plastic? If it works on plastic, it ought to work on wood.

 

[RoninPA]

Paint.

This.

Also, doesn't someone do some kind of a "dip" process that puts a nice wood finish on plastic? If it works on plastic, it ought to work on wood.

Yes, it is called hydro-dipping and it should work on any gun stock. You can get DIY kits for this or find a company that specializes in doing this for the best results. You can get any number of different patterns: camo, carbon fiber, skulls, animal, metal, marble, stone, wood grain and even illusion patterns.

 

[mohavesam]

Wait. There are dozens if not hundreds of posts on other forums concerning laminated stock owners who have changed the colors. It involves some pretty simple home-finishing steps starting with brush-on bleaching and washing the original colors and then using Rit dyes to gradually darken in the color of your choice. This was/is all-the-rage with the Charger stocks, and works great with the blonde-ish or grey laminates right from the factory. The Rit dyes also do a fantastic job on the cheapo birch stocks seen on many models, not just Ruger, ala 10/22s.

Word of advice - the Rit dyes are organic or at least most of them. That leans permanent with anything they come into contact on. Go slow.

Of course no one can make laminated wood into figured fine walnut. This is about changing the colors and shapes.