That was my thought also, just didn't want to admit to it.I see these people like to copy my patented techniques...this video is not far off from my original reloading style...I never performed the polishing tho...
Reloading ammo the Pakistani way [a.k.a.-"Reloading For Dummies!"]
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Lt92
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Life is cheap there
Life is brutal and expendable there......that included ours while there also...
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I started with the Lee Classic Reloader, hammer, and a Hornady G3 1500 portal digital scale.I see these people like to copy my patented techniques...this video is not far off from my original reloading style...I never performed the polishing tho...
Made three dummy rounds with it and decided that I need better tools if I was going to make quality ammo.
The.Tumbleweed
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They absolutely hate us in that part of the world.
Ironically, they want to come here.
Go figure.
Yes they do....had a couple extremely bad experiences in Pakistan and Saudi......was hoping for an explosion in that video.
To this day I can still smell the rot of Karachi and feel the resentment in their eyes toward us....there was an event there that was probably the most intense and fearful for my life that I have ever been......I didn't even feel safe at the "Marine House" there.......don't need them here.
On several streets you could see expended 7.62x39 and various pistol casings on the ground. Kids could be seen picking them up.....probably where some of the casings in the video came from.
I still have a Lee Handloader, haven't used it in a while but I remember in his book he said he used it when he was traveling on airplanes. don't think you can do that anymore...
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I have since acquired a Buchanan Precision Machine Portable Hand Press with the Hornady LNL quick change die bushing set up, plus Redding Competition Dies and they are far better than the Classic Lee Loader, with all the perks of portability.
I can still handload on any table or bench (anywhere), and off of a tailgate, sitting in a wheel barrel, upon a stump, including my little red wagon.
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Very nice. do you cast as well?
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No I do not cast, as I prefer Lehigh Defense's monolithic copper bullets for both hunting and defense.
I use their .452" 220 grain Maximum Expansion, .452" 220 grain Xtreme Defense, and their .452" 250 grain Xtreme Penetrators so far.
I have bought some of their .452" 135 grain Xtreme Defense bullets just to see what they'll do but I normally prefer heavier bullets to get a job done right the first go around.
I will some day buy a small lathe and turn out some .452" 220 grain solid silver bullets, not that I would be shooting them other than when working up of a safe load.
I have cast bullets for years, have a few guns that have never seen factory rounds. just an observation by your posts you seem like a person in search of perfection, which of course is impossible. however you can try to get close. I think you would find enjoyment in making your own bullets. you can find molds for about any bullet you want to shoot and with a little research you can find the proper hardness for that recipe. IMHO reading your posts you should consider this. I would be more than happy to assist if you want. I melt down wheel weights, add solder or antimony and cast bullets from 32cal to sabots for shotguns or muzzleloaders
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I thank you for the offer, but as you noted I am a bit anal when it comes to the bullets I use. I like the idea of solid copper as opposed to lead. So far the guns I have at this point are virgins to lead and I'd like to keep it that way. If I ever did cast some bullets for the experience I would want to shoot them in the person's gun that let me use their casting facility. Maybe save a few back for the display shelf.
I at one time though to cast my own silver bullets until I studied up on the process [way to much involved in getting them not to have worm holes]. So I looked into getting either sterling or 99.7/99.9/99.99/99.999 pure silver rods that are .50" diameter and decided that turning them out on a lathe down to .452" was far easier and better than casting wonky ones. The trick would be figuring out which purity would be best for not silver fouling the barrel. Just taking a guess it seems to me that sterling silver would have the best Brinell hardness for the application. These would basically be used for a formal formal dining/wedding/Bar-B-Q gun of sorts. They would never see action unless SHTF thereof. I figure on getting a SS Ruger New Vaquero with white pearl grips, chambered in (you guest it) .45 Colt. Or an 1879 five shot Tranter chambered in .45 cal. Either one would be dedicated to silver bullets alone.
Otherwise the Lehigh Defense line of solid copper bullets fit my fancy for defense rounds against both two and for legged opponents.
I prefer a S&W XVR with a 14" barrel converted to a 5 shot revolving carbine, by pin and welding a 2-3" muzzle break and adding a custom butt stock, chambered in .460 magnum for hunting. Again with the .452" solid coppers Lehigh Defense bullets.
I also have a SS Taurus Judge 3" magnum which is for .410 shot-shells varying from TSS 9 shot, rubber buckshot, rock salt all for crowd dispersion, plus dragon's breath, and dragon's breath with slug in case I need to raise Cain when all hell breaks loose. Hope for the best, prepare for the worst as they say.
If I add anything to this list it would be a SS 1911 chambered in .45 Auto, an AK-10 with a 16" barrel chambered in .45 Raptor, and a CMMG Banshee with an 8" barrel chambered in .45 Auto. I think after this I would be happily sufficed. Of coarse I would be loading Lehigh Defense's solid copper bullets in these too.
You may have noticed that not only have I bypassed all the issues involving lead but I'm sidestepping the hassles pertaining to bottle neck cases as well. The old saying KISS [No offense meant] comes to mind!
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"I like the idea of solid copper as opposed to lead. So far the guns I have at this point are virgins to lead and I'd like to keep it that way."
If I had to rely upon just commercial bullets w/o lead for the amount of shooting I do annually,, I'd have to be good friends with a billionaire. Casting is a way for me to afford to shoot 10,000 or more rounds annually. I'd have a "sticker shock heart attack" if I had to buy Lehigh Defense as my only option to enjoy shooting.
But historically speaking,, lead has been the material for bullets LONG before copper jackets or even solid copper bullets were designed. I fully accept a person's desire to shoot certain things only,, but I shoot a lot more by being versatile.
If I had to rely upon just commercial bullets w/o lead for the amount of shooting I do annually,, I'd have to be good friends with a billionaire. Casting is a way for me to afford to shoot 10,000 or more rounds annually. I'd have a "sticker shock heart attack" if I had to buy Lehigh Defense as my only option to enjoy shooting.
But historically speaking,, lead has been the material for bullets LONG before copper jackets or even solid copper bullets were designed. I fully accept a person's desire to shoot certain things only,, but I shoot a lot more by being versatile.
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Believe me I understand about solid copper being "COST PROHIBITIVE". Especially the store bought kind from Underwood Ammo. It slows me down some, but the solid copper rounds I am making will be stash for hunting and defense. Silver bullets because its on my bucket list. I already have every thing but the total amount of bullets I'll need. Buying them as I go.
If I was going to just plink, like I did when I was younger, I believe I would get me another .22 and shoot shorts out of it. My dad still has his .22 LR single action revolver and a .22 LR Marlin rifle from when I was a kid, and I am sure if I asked him he would give them to me (probably with a brick or two of .22LRs).
I was shooting the two guns of my dad's since I was 5 years old. My dad would take us to the national forest or to one of our kinflok's ranches. Once I turned 18 I started buying guns of my own. I hunted and plinked up to becoming 33 years old of which time I sold off my guns. Kind of got tired of killing and wasting time and money on putting holes in things. And I did not bother buying anymore guns until "The Summer of LOVE" in 2020 where Democrats were burning down cities and Biden taking office I decided to start tooting again. For one I figured that Biden would collapse the economy and I would need to hunt for food, and until then I travel a lot and did not want to drive up on a "MOSTLY Peaceful Protest" without some form of protection being they were telling the police to stay out of it and leave them alone. I mean I enjoyed the peaceful years but if they are wanting to start stuff well then I figure I best be ready then. As far as the ranches I once was allowed to frolic within the old folks are gone and the properties sold so I no longer have that as a plinking ground. As far as the national forest there are so many idiots that traverse there now a days that I'm a bit leery to go there. There are some free public ranges around but you never know who may show up lacking gun safety adequacies and I don't like hanging around idiots that get mad when you try and encourage them to do better. As for paying for range time it just does not seem right, kind of like paying for a drink of water. I'm just old school enough that a lot of stuff going on now a days irks my butt.
Any who, some people shoot to reload and some reload to shoot. I personally at this point in life Handload to Handload in preparation of the day I will need to shoot [other than the silly silver bullet thingy I got going in my head].
I wonder what I will do with my loading tools once my stash is built up. Will I start plinking to reload? Will I sell them off? Or perhaps get an FFL to make ammunitions?
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Time to give up the two Dillon 550's and start ordering from these guys.
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"Especially the store bought kind from Underwood Ammo. It slows me down some, but the solid copper rounds I am making will be stash for hunting and defense."
Well, to be a good hunter,, OR,, to be really prepared for serious self defense,, I've always felt the need to practice a lot, and often. that's why I shoot a lot. And I do mean a lot. And I reload to allow me to shoot a lot more at a more affordable expense.
I hunt with a handgun, and truly feel the animal(s) deserve a quick, clean kill as quickly as possible. Due to the fact there are many variables in hunting,, lots & lots of practice allows me to be very comfortable in my abilities to do this.
Self defense. I shoot USPSA competition. That challenges my ability to think fast, shoot fast & accurate, always handle my firearm safely, trains my mind to where my motor memory skill will allow me split second response time if necessary. This was driven home when one of my good friends,, a NCHP officer found himself in a gunfight on 7/3/23. In a split second,, he went from having a friendly & non-threatening interaction with a guy broken down, to where the guy suddenly pulled a Desert Eagle .44 mag & shot my friend in the chest from just a few feet away. In the publicly released photo,, showing the moment just before my friend got shot,, his motor memory skills took over, & you can see in the photo he's beginning his draw.
My point,,,,,, is that all this takes a lot of regular practice.
In a regular USPSA match,, you have stages that challenge your mind and abilities. And when you miss, have a misfire, fumble a reload, have a jam, drop a magazine, make a bad grip when drawing, or any of the other maladies that happen,, your regular practicing and competition allow you to react a LOT quicker. It can (and in my friends case, it did) save your life.
Oh, and while you may lament the loss of "free, un-encombered shooting" you still should work hard at making it happen. I have a friend in New Jersey,, who has to drive an hour each way just to go to a range to practice. He's also a serious handgun hunter,, having taken a lot of game with a handgun including a Cape Buffalo.
I was smart enough back in the late 1970's to realize how easy it was to lose many casual freedoms of where to shoot. So I started building my own gun range. Now,, I have an established gun range that's afforded "range protection laws."
Oh,, and let's not forget that my very own mother THOUGHT she could handle anything like a robber etc in her store. Yet,, when pepper sprayed,, and attacked,, she was not capable of getting her gun into use. She had refused to truly practice or become motor memory skill friendly with her gun. That cost her.
Nope,, expensive bullets,, or very limited practice due to whatever reasons do not allow enough mental comfort for me to be truly capable when faced with the big game animal of a lifetime,, or when attacked by a determined thug wanting to do harm. I prefer to shoot a lot, and often,, with different types of firearms, and situations.
Well, to be a good hunter,, OR,, to be really prepared for serious self defense,, I've always felt the need to practice a lot, and often. that's why I shoot a lot. And I do mean a lot. And I reload to allow me to shoot a lot more at a more affordable expense.
I hunt with a handgun, and truly feel the animal(s) deserve a quick, clean kill as quickly as possible. Due to the fact there are many variables in hunting,, lots & lots of practice allows me to be very comfortable in my abilities to do this.
Self defense. I shoot USPSA competition. That challenges my ability to think fast, shoot fast & accurate, always handle my firearm safely, trains my mind to where my motor memory skill will allow me split second response time if necessary. This was driven home when one of my good friends,, a NCHP officer found himself in a gunfight on 7/3/23. In a split second,, he went from having a friendly & non-threatening interaction with a guy broken down, to where the guy suddenly pulled a Desert Eagle .44 mag & shot my friend in the chest from just a few feet away. In the publicly released photo,, showing the moment just before my friend got shot,, his motor memory skills took over, & you can see in the photo he's beginning his draw.
My point,,,,,, is that all this takes a lot of regular practice.
In a regular USPSA match,, you have stages that challenge your mind and abilities. And when you miss, have a misfire, fumble a reload, have a jam, drop a magazine, make a bad grip when drawing, or any of the other maladies that happen,, your regular practicing and competition allow you to react a LOT quicker. It can (and in my friends case, it did) save your life.
Oh, and while you may lament the loss of "free, un-encombered shooting" you still should work hard at making it happen. I have a friend in New Jersey,, who has to drive an hour each way just to go to a range to practice. He's also a serious handgun hunter,, having taken a lot of game with a handgun including a Cape Buffalo.
I was smart enough back in the late 1970's to realize how easy it was to lose many casual freedoms of where to shoot. So I started building my own gun range. Now,, I have an established gun range that's afforded "range protection laws."
Oh,, and let's not forget that my very own mother THOUGHT she could handle anything like a robber etc in her store. Yet,, when pepper sprayed,, and attacked,, she was not capable of getting her gun into use. She had refused to truly practice or become motor memory skill friendly with her gun. That cost her.
Nope,, expensive bullets,, or very limited practice due to whatever reasons do not allow enough mental comfort for me to be truly capable when faced with the big game animal of a lifetime,, or when attacked by a determined thug wanting to do harm. I prefer to shoot a lot, and often,, with different types of firearms, and situations.
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I know what you mean. As for hunting it will be done with a carbine rifle so I am not worried about missing a shot with it once I get it sighted in. My handguns are for like when a four or two legged critter attacks. I figure the two legged ones will be close enough I should not be able to miss, and as with the 4 legged ones (such as a bear) I figure I'll be aiming.
As far as speed goes I figure I would hurt myself if I tried to move fast. Sure would not want to shot myself like old Borek (click url below). Basically slow and steady is all I got at this point in life or I might fall over. Just about need three points of contact for stability. As to being mentally prepared I tend to be blessed with not freaking out but rather thinking fast and taking care of business.
But I definitely agree with you about how practice makes perfect. No doubt the guy who practices the most more than likely will win the most. Not always but more than likely so. And I will probably be able to afford 50 to 100 rounds for practice a month. Beats nothing.
But I still ain't gonna put any lead in my guns. Dead set against it. I have shot a lot of it back in the day but once I went copper there is no turning back. I'm just glad I didn't set my mind on gold bullets. At that cost I would never be able to save up to make my silver ones.
Here old Borek practicing his fast draw so he could be ready when someone come to shoot him:
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