Redhawk and Super Blackhawk Opinions

[Avyz66]

New here. This is my first post outside of the New Members area. I would like some advice / input on two Rugers I want to purchase. I have done a ton of looking around the NET and getting as much knowledge on these types of revolvers as I can. Bottom line is like everything on the NET the information is all over the place. I am not sure of the rules, etc. on asking this type of question and do not want to break any rules. Let me know if this is something I can post up and get your opinion on price, condition, etc. Not sure I can upload pictures yet. Some forums have a minimum post count needed prior to posting.

 

[hittman]

Welcome to the forum

Post away and yes you should be able to post pics

Rules here are pretty basic …. These are in Lounge

https://www.rugerforum.com/threads/some-of-the-rules.209795/
Oh BTW …. Redhawks are better. Some here will disagree. :ROFLMAO:

 

[XUSNORDIE]

There are a ton of experts here on just about any DA or SA Ruger revolver. You may want to be more specific with what you are looking for.....many of the folks here will offer you strong advice and info you can take to the bank.

The Redhawk and Blackhawk lines are proven and strong as tanks.

 

[GypsmJim]

Let us know what you want to know. I have both. Both are .45 Colt and both were bought new. Sometimes I hunt deer with one, and sometimes the other. Would never sell either one.

 

[Avyz66]

I have the opportunity to get both of these. I will give you as much information I have on them at this time. Main question is what do you think these should sell for? I already have my opinion that I will share that later as not to sway any information you can give me on the price given to me to buy them.

Redhawk
Not sure of model or year.
.44 Magnum
Gun only. No box or paperwork. Comes with a soft side handgun zipper case.

Super Blackhawk
I think it is a 1976.
.44 Magnum
Gun, Holster and 70 rounds of ammo. No box or paperwork.

Just need input on what would be a good price on these. Then I would like to talk about condition, availability, Etc. Although condition would be a big part of the value. Just jump in with any information you have.

Thanks for your time!
JR

 

[rugerguy]

I agree with the above, and feel the Redhawk line is 'better' all around than the Super Redhawk, those are just too damn big.....
and the Super Blackhawks are just fine if you prefer the 'single action' route...... (y) (y)

 

[Avyz66]

Any input on what these should sell for?

 

[hittman]

Completed auctions on places like Gun Broker is really the best indicator on actual prices. Not expired auctions …. Completed so you see what they actually SOLD for.

You can even use the “Search” feature here for more threads and info. Maybe some sold here in Classifieds.

 

[rugerguy]

all depends on just where , and who is selling,, saw them at this past weekends show, the Redhawks in 44 were in the $750, 800 range, less if blued,,and the Supers anywhere from $900 to $1100 and those had a scope on them,,,it was a REAL handful..the Super Blackhawks were $500 to $800 , even had seen a U.S. Arms 44 stainless 7 1/2 inch, the guy wanted $500 and I "almost" pulled the trigger but passed,,,was some good deals to be found, had ,but was not looking to buy this close to the holidays, and hunting season is about over here........:unsure:;)

 

[hittman]

What’s the seller asking for them?
I try to gently remind folks I can’t be a buyer and seller BOTH …..

 

[Avyz66]

Completed auctions on places like Gun Broker is really the best indicator on actual prices. Not expired auctions …. Completed so you see what they actually SOLD for.

You can even use the "Search" feature here for more threads and info. Maybe some sold here in Classifieds.

That is exactly what I have done. I always look up an actual SOLD price and disregard the ASKING price. I was just looking around here in the classifieds to see what has been selling.

all depends on just where , and who is selling,, saw them at this past weekends show, the Redhawks in 44 were in the $750, 800 range, less if blued,,and the Supers anywhere from $900 to $1100 and those had a scope on them,,,it was a REAL handful..the Super Blackhawks were $500 to $800 , even had seen a U.S. Arms 44 stainless 7 1/2 inch, the guy wanted $500 and I "almost" pulled the trigger but passed,,,was some good deals to be found, had ,but was not looking to buy this close to the holidays, and hunting season is about over here........:unsure:;)

That is about what I have been seeing on GB.

What's the seller asking for them?
I try to gently remind folks I can't be a buyer and seller BOTH …..

Redhawk - $875
Super Blackhawk, with ammo and holster belt - $750

Not sure if those prices are at the top of the value cap. The Super Blackhawk does appear to have some "wear and tear" on it. That would affect the price for sure, just not sure how much or what a fair price in this condition would be. Not an issue for me if I can get it at the right price. I am looking for the SBH to carry out and about on the property. It will be used and not just put up.

 

[Sugar River]

The Redhawk 44mag 5.5" is a very popular but also quite common configuration.
I would be a buyer at $650 and might go to 700.

The New model Super BH 7.5" is THE most common variation and they're basically avilable anywhere/everywhere.
Nothing special about that one, so....about $550-600 plus whatever value you put on the ammo (difficult to price without knowing what it is). To me, used leather isn't worth much.

 

[Avyz66]

Thanks! That helps me out tremendously. I will just walk away from these. It is a "friend" and I don't want to start haggling or get into the "not worth that much" conversation. I was right there with you on these prices. Thought $600-$650 would be a deal on the Redhawk and $600 for the Blackhawk and all the extras. Guess I will have to keep looking around and hope to run across a deal.

 

[SootyGrouse]

I notice that the longer barrel version go for less. I picked up a stainless redhawk 7.5 at my local sportsman's and it was used without a box or original grip and it was priced at $599. There are 7.5 in super Blackhawk's that look really clean on gunbroker with white grips and no box for $499.

There is a nice SBH in the classified section on another forum that looks really clean for $600 and it's got the bisley grip which I much prefer. I do like the dragoon grips.

I like deals though. I would shoot for $600 or less for a SBH that's not a collectible version. For SRHs I'd say under $700-$725ish.

Just me.

 

[hittman]

$1200 to $1300 for the pair be my best WAG.

 

[XUSNORDIE]

Never hurts to make an offer to someone......you never know, the friend may take it. If he gets upset over it......well he isn't much of a friend.

 

[GypsmJim]

Just for grins and giggles I did a sold price search. Yeah, your prices may be a bit high, but not off the planet high.

No sense in arguing, make a 1200-1300 offer and see what he says. If you have held them in your hands and see the condition (assuming they are pristine), that says a lot.

Two phrases come to mind: "I didn't pay too much I paid too early"......"I wish I didn't let them get away"........

I paid $140 for my Blackhawk. It was too much then, but boy did I get a deal! The same time period I let a 1970 era Colt Gold Cup National Match get away because I thought $200 was too much.

 

[Avyz66]

Thanks for all the replies. While I have an "audience" here are there any special types, models, years, etc. that are worth more in the SBH and RH revolver world? I see them sell for prices all around the gambit and really don't know why. If I have to wait I would rather spend the money on a SBH or RH that has some value due to demand. Just not sure what to look for and there are so many variations it is mind blowing.

 

[Avyz66]

Just for grins and giggles I did a sold price search. Yeah, your prices may be a bit high, but not off the planet high.

No sense in arguing, make a 1200-1300 offer and see what he says. If you have held them in your hands and see the condition (assuming they are pristine), that says a lot.

Two phrases come to mind: "I didn't pay too much I paid too early"......"I wish I didn't let them get away"........

I paid $140 for my Blackhawk. It was too much then, but boy did I get a deal! The same time period I let a 1970 era Colt Gold Cup National Match get away because I thought $200 was too much.

The RH looks to be in good condition. The SBH, however, looks to be well "used". I may throw a grand out there and see if it sticks to the wall.

 

[XUSNORDIE]

Thanks for all the replies. While I have an "audience" here are there any special types, models, years, etc. that are worth more in the SBH and RH revolver world? I see them sell for prices all around the gambit and really don't know why. If I have to wait I would rather spend the money on a SBH or RH that has some value due to demand. Just not sure what to look for and there are so many variations it is mind blowing.

Well for BH and SBH you can start with OM and NM.........this might get long but fun to read......

 

[hittman]

On the Redhawks models, I have no interest in the newer ones with shorter barrels, etc. My interest in them is with the “originals” that only came as 5.5 inch and 7.5 inch.

With those, the more desirable items are calibers 357 magnum and 41 magnum. Some like the 45 Colts too. The 7.5 inch “Hunter” models with the scope ring cutouts on the barrel are really sought after by some too. I prefer the blue models even though they seem for now to not bring as much money as stainless.

 

[XUSNORDIE]

If you end up getting the RH........you will be drawn into the Six Series of revolvers.....Security/Speed/Police......"mini RedHawks" ;)

 

[GypsmJim]

On the Redhawks models, I have no interest in the newer ones with shorter barrels, etc. My interest in them is with the "originals" that only came as 5.5 inch and 7.5 inch.

With those, the more desirable items are calibers 357 magnum and 41 magnum. Some like the 45 Colts too. The 7.5 inch "Hunter" models with the scope ring cutouts on the barrel are really sought after by some too. I prefer the blue models even though they seem for now to not bring as much money as stainless.

I had tried a 5.5" RH and loved it. Good feel and balance. I chose the 7.5 incher with the ring cutouts because I wanted to scope it for deer hunting. Turned out after setting it up I found it to be too muzzle heavy with the scope. It's now fitted with a reflex sight and that makes it perfect. Regardless, if a deal came up I would go with either barrel length.

In the case of a Super BH, a 7.5 incher is the ONLY way to go.

As far as being more collectible or desirable, if you find a 1976 model roll marked with "Made in the 200th year of Liberty", DON'T let that one get away.

 

[protoolman]

Odd to buy both. Collectors might want both, but I'd submit most hunters, shooters etc. have a preference for one or the other. I have a double action revolver background and have big bore Redhawks and Blackhawks. But for hunting and fun I love the single action. It's lighter especially mine in .45 with the aluminum grip frame (super Blackhawk .44 is steel) and I love the feel and ergonomics. It just makes my Redhawk feel blocky, heavy and crude. I do carry a 4". Redhawk for bear, moose protection though. I agree with the others the prices he's quoting are pretty much full price. You can easily do better. Especially on the Blackhawk.

 

[gnappi]

"Should" sell for is a loaded question. I overwhelmingly go for single actions and have overpaid for Blackhawks (BH) and don't mind it if I get what I want.

Luckily many BH's are currently available in most calibers, barrel lengths, and metal type and new samples won't break most banks, if they do, used prices are about 10% or more less than new.

Even when I had a Redhawk, I didn't care for it, and not until the Super Redhawk came out did I break down and get one though I doubt I'd need or want another.

 

[contender]

Welcome to the Forum!

Both guns are good, desirable to many, and if used, are enjoyable to shoot.

You mentioned that you'd be shooting/using them, so collecting isn't an issue.
You mentioned so many variations,, and you are correct. Collectors look for specific variations,, and as such,, you can see prices for specific models be quite a bit higher than others.
If you are going to buy just one of them, YOU have to know which one fits YOUR hands the best and that YOU shoot the best.
If you can buy both,, I'd say "Why not? "

But trying to wait & low-ball an offer just because you may feel it's too much,, may not be the best idea either. A good solid BHK is easily worth $500-$600 for a NM like the one shown. And a Redhawk is easily worth $600-$700 to many in general. So a FAIR price would be in the $1100-$1200 range for the pair.
As mentioned above; "You may think think you paid too much,, but in reality, you may pay a little too early." They won't go down in value,, as long as you take care of them.
I learned long ago that if something is offered at a fair price,, pay it w/o haggling. That way,, if it's worth more than the offered sale price,, the seller can't get upset later on because you beat them down on the price. If the offering is in the middle of the road,, then a LITTLE bit of very POLITE haggling may be ok. But if too high,, then a counter offer isn't out of line.

 

[larry8]

I think your dreaming if you think you will get a fairly good gun for $600. What you probably will get is a gun that has been shot thousands of times, maybe scratched up or even dented, may have hidden issues. Redhawks are the best guns that Ruger makes, just look at Gun Broker for USED prices. I was very lucky in my search for a NEW 5.5", 44mag, SS RedHawk and came across one for $1K. Previously I picked up a Super Redhawk 7.5", 44mag SS for about $1K also. You will see that most of the Redhawks listed on Gun Broker are listed for $1200 to $1400 and are USED. So those prices should tell you something, that one listed for $600 will be a piece of crap gun. Of course this is MY opinion.

 

[SootyGrouse]

Larry that's sounds expensive. The new RedHawks are less than the prices you are quoting for used ones. Brand new on buds for an ss 5.5 RH with free shipping is $1034 or make offer. Those prices you mentioned on gunbroker are guns that just sit there and don't sell. If you click the most recently sold box on search you can see what stuff has actually sold for. Just wanted to chime in to help this new member save some cash.

Something else to consider is FFL fees charged by your local shops. Here in Alaska it's $20-$25. In Cali where my brother lives it's $100-$150 so maybe buying local and paying a higher price is the route you take. Most shops if you buy through them don't tack on the NICs paperwork costs, some might? My area they don't. Just some things to consider.

 

[Avyz66]

Thanks! I did look at the sold for prices on GB when getting my information together. People can ask whatever they want for something. Only the sold listing is where is check things. Real world prices on my opinion.

I am glad you brought up the fees, etc. that should be taken into consideration. That is exactly what I did when doing my research. My local shop that is listed as an FFL dealer on the site that can receive the package only charges $25. He is an acquaintance and may do a better deal for me but even at $25 it is not an issue. I also have to take into consideration any shipping charges. Things like this add up quick and buying local can save money in the long run.

 

[SootyGrouse]

On gunbroker there is a "super Blackhawk 7.5 vary slick" which is blued with white grips. It look almost brand new for $499 by an established dealer with good feedback. Just an FYI. Buy it and save me from myself