P91DC - Estimated value factoring in difficulty of finding any for sale.

[dcav6809]

Clearly subjective, as the P91dc is a rare find due primarily to the limited amount produced, and it now being more of a collector’s item. But throwing it out there anyway:

What would the price range you would expect to have to pay if one became available? TY!

 

[Hawk-in-Wi]

https://www.gunbroker.com/All/search/completed?Keywords=ruger P91dc&Timeframe=1&Sort=1&PageSize=48

 

[the_leper_colony]

Prices have definitely been rising!
:-)

 

[bishopm14]

One closed on GB earlier today for $630 plus shipping / tax/ fees. For my locale that would end up as around $730 final cost after transfer. It was used but in the plastic case with accessories and paperwork. Not worth it to me, I’ve gathered a P89DC and P90DC in the past four-ish years for little over that much combined. Just picked the P90 up from the FFL yesterday actually.

 

[dcav6809]

Yes, that is definitely HIGH compared to the actual original price and what they are getting. That kind of syncs up with what I’ve been finding, in that people may be purchasing just to add to their collection, and overpay. I guess for those who have money to burn, go for it! I wouldn’t want to pay over $500 total, but may not be able to find one in that range. I’ll keep looking.
Thanks for the help!

 

[blume357]

I'm not an expert... I actually had to look up the P91... even though they are most probably just like the other P series pistols of that time.. work hoss's and pretty much built to perfection... compared to todays wanted guns... plastic, small, light and 9mm..... not in the highly desirable groupings... I'd throw out $4-450.. what Ruger should have done is made a barrel in 357sig for it.... they missed on that.

 

[bisleyfan41]

I'm not an expert... I actually had to look up the P91... even though they are most probably just like the other P series pistols of that time.. work hoss's and pretty much built to perfection... compared to todays wanted guns... plastic, small, light and 9mm..... not in the highly desirable groupings... I'd throw out $4-450.. what Ruger should have done is made a barrel in 357sig for it.... they missed on that.

The 357 Sig wasn't released until 1994. The P91 was either discontinued by then or close to it.

 

[the_leper_colony]

The 357 Sig wasn't released until 1994. The P91 was either discontinued by then or close to it.

You're right, the P91 was only produced for 3 years (about 25,000 per year/75,000 total, IIRC). Plus, Ruger has never seemed to like promoting cartridges associated with competitors; 40 caliber P-series barrels were marked ".40 AUTO" rather than .40 S&W, and recently they dropped that chambering entirely. Has Ruger ever chambered a handgun for .357 SIG?

 

[the_leper_colony]

Looking at completed auctions on GunBroker, I find it interesting that the P91DAO models apparently have been selling for $200-$300 less than comparable P91DCs. Supply? Demand? Folks hate 'em for some reason? Who knows!
:)

 

[hittman]

Around here it’s a solid $350 gun if in nice shape.

 

[GLGAR]

This is good news. I have a stainless KP91DC that I bought new in 1992. I considered selling it over the years but never got a decent offer. Glad to see they are starting to increase in value.

 

[hittman]

One closed on GB earlier today for $630 plus shipping / tax/ fees.

And another for $581 NIB and one for $456 NIB plus one in “excellent” condition ( no box ) for $200.00.

 

[the_leper_colony]

And another for $581 NIB and one for $456 NIB plus one in “excellent” condition ( no box ) for $200.00.

As my friend Captain Obvious once noted, it is always wise to consider multiple auctions, rather than just the highest of the bunch, when trying to determine value. I would personally disregard the $200 auction - if you look at the photos, the firearm shows substantial wear (the seller described it as "good" condition). The other 3 firearms were in much better condition and included extras (box, papers, mags, etc.); if you average the winning bids for those 3, you get $556.

Looking at the bid history on an auction is also important - some auctions go way too high because a couple of bidders get into a 'pissing contest'. That may have happened on the $630 auction, because you can see that there were 3 bidders up to the $515 mark, but the final $115 increase was due to just 2 bidders. For the other two auctions, there were 3 bidders up to $556 (on the $581 auction) and 3 bidders up to $415 (on the $456 auction). If you average those points where the third bidder dropped out, you get $495.

Other factors influence bidding as well. Buyers on GunBroker usually have to pay for shipping; of the 3 auctions we're considering the highest ($630 winning bid) had free shipping, and the lowest ($456 top bid) had the highest associated shipping charge, at $45. So, no surprise there! In addition, sales tax and transfer fees (if any) can obviously influence bidding.

Before the Wu Flu, when I was buying P-series handguns on GunBroker, I could find very good to excellent examples in the $200-$250 price range (IIRC, the last two I bought were a nice KP93DC for $180, and a nice KP94DAO for $210). I think those days are long gone.

 

[hittman]

A seller may hang his hat on the $630 price while a buyer is likely to remember $200.
I didn’t read all the posts to see if this gun in question has it’s original box, it’s condition, etc.

 

[the_leper_colony]

A seller may hang his hat on the $630 price while a buyer is likely to remember $200.
I didn’t read all the posts to see if this gun in question has it’s original box, it’s condition, etc.

Yeah, if you were selling and set a starting bid of $630, you would be lucky to get any bidders, at least any time soon. The starting bids for two of those three auctions were in the $370-$400 range (and the third auction still had 3 bidders above that), so that would probably be a fairly safe asking price for anyone in a hurry to sell. Someone with more time could try $495 for a starting bid/asking price (average of points where the third bidder dropped out). With inflation and rising prices, that $630 would be a good value for insurance purposes, and might even be "the going rate" for a nice P91 in a year or three.

I sold or traded most of my firearms to an FFL back in 2020-2021, including almost all of my Rugers, but I still have my KP91DC - I think in some ways it's the best of the metal-frame P-series guns!

As always, IMHO, FWIW, YMMV, etc., etc.
:)

 

[GLASSMAN]

I have pulled several P guns from the LGS here recently in the 400 range.
My p91 gets no use and I only keep it as it pairs with my early .40 Carbine.
I may put the whole package up on classified here someday or trade for more 9’s.
Or,, just shoot them more until I like them better?

 

[xtratoy]

There is/was one listed on the .net ruger forum on April 5th for $375

 

[pyth0n]

Clearly subjective, as the P91dc is a rare find due primarily to the limited amount produced, and it now being more of a collector’s item. But throwing it out there anyway:

What would the price range you would expect to have to pay if one became available? TY!

I checked 3 sites. Gun Broker, Guns America & Guns international. Prices ranges from $379 to $800.
Who knows what tomorrow will bring.

 

[GasGuzzler]

.357 SIG barrel? Didn't know anyone had a .357 SIG any longer. I know someone with a .40SW (actually made by S&W) but only because it was a good deal at the time. I have a good ole P95DC in the the favored to me all black color scheme. It's a cheap tank and I don't care what it's worth although it's pristine. I don't buy junk or new at the store.

I would buy a discontinued Ruger if in excellent shape even if I wasn't looking for it as long as the price was good. I don't want a stainless P-series but if a black P91 came along, I would consider it for $400 or less. Not worth more than that to me.

 

[dcav6809]

Thanks for all the great info, opinions, and feedback-I really appreciate my Ruger friends.
In the event anyone knows or hears about a P91 up for sale, I’m still looking to purchase one to add to my small collection of handguns. I am in no rush, as I expected to ‘play the long game’.
Thanks again folks-take care!

 

[McGannahan Skjellyfetti]

Thanks for all the great info, opinions, and feedback-I really appreciate my Ruger friends.
In the event anyone knows or hears about a P91 up for sale, I’m still looking to purchase one to add to my small collection of handguns. I am in no rush, as I expected to ‘play the long game’.
Thanks again folks-take care!

Did you ever find one? I've been considering looking for a new home for mine as it's been in the original case with paperwork, four mags, loader, original and Hogue grips, with under 200 rounds through it for 27 years now, clean and vacuum sealed in the safe. KP91dc model.

 

[s4s4u]

Beware those with one post offering a desired item for sale....

 

[McGannahan Skjellyfetti]

Beware those with one post offering a desired item for sale....

I understand your point and words of caution, I'm more than happy to post a photo, video...etc.
I happened to search Google about the gun and came across this post. I've been lightening my collection across the board as it is because of medical bills.

 

[hittman]

You’ll need more time and posts here before you can use the Classiified Section ….. unless you want to become a Supporting Member.

https://www.rugerforum.com/help/faq/

Regardless …. Welcome to the forum.

 

[McGannahan Skjellyfetti]

Beware those with one post offering a desired item for sale....

Also, my apologies, I forgot that I sold a magazine some years back. So there are four, not five.
Just took it out of the vacuum bag and took this photo. I hope this helps a bit with trust.

 

[McGannahan Skjellyfetti]

You’ll need more time and posts here before you can use the Classiified Section ….. unless you want to become a Supporting Member.

https://www.rugerforum.com/help/faq/

Regardless …. Welcome to the forum.

Understood, and thank you for the welcome. I am getting rid of many of my belongings in general to pay off medical bills so I can get treatment with another procedure. I found this post by a fluke and joined to reply. I will be trying other various avenues as well. It's more of a timing issue than anything. Paying for a membership to sell it is sort of counterproductive given the situation though.

 

[s4s4u]

I understand your point and words of caution, I'm more than happy to post a photo, video...etc.
I happened to search Google about the gun and came across this post. I've been lightening my collection across the board as it is because of medical bills.

Nothing personal, I have just seen folks scammed too many times by someone answering a WTB or posting in a thread like this one.

Myself included

I hope you are dealing in good faith.

 

[McGannahan Skjellyfetti]

It's all good, and it wasn't taken personally. I run my own IT service and support business, I deal with scamming issues on a regular basis.
Also, I'm not sure I would trust a community where someone DIDN'T put out a word of caution, especially these days.
I try to live every part of my life in good faith and by the ol' Golden Rule.

 

[Al James]

Thats a nice gun you have there! Let me know when you decide on the price. The P91DC market has cooled quite a bit since this post was started a few years back. The last two I bought in the last year or so we’re in the $400 range shipped.

 

[McGannahan Skjellyfetti]

Thats a nice gun you have there! Let me know when you decide on the price. The P91DC market has cooled quite a bit since this post was started a few years back. The last two I bought in the last year or so we’re in the $400 range shipped.

Yeah, that seems to be the average going price. It's been an odd year in general for firearms. I've always been a sucker for West German da/sa metal framed Sigs and got rid of seven this year that were duplicates. I had a P230 in 9mm kurtz and was offered much more than I ever expected from a big retail location. Most of them I had no complaints about, but I had a P220 and I could hardly give it away, which was really strange.
As for this P91DC, I'm certainly not looking for anything ridiculous, but taking into consideration condition (and I'm happy to send detailed photos), four pre-ban mags, all the paperwork and extras, I think $500 is fair.