Not only no, but HELL no! (motorcycles)

[Cholo]

I love watching this guy's videos. He sets up in a hair pin on Stelvio Pass in the Italian Alps where it's steep and the hairpins are tight! There are busses that use this route, and idiots in campers! Many motorcycles don't stand a chance, especially on weekends. One camper just stopped in the wrong place to admire the view. That should be a $10k fine.

Anyway, if you want to see more search YouTube for the member Kanyarfotó. I find myself saying to the motorcycles Don't stop! and Don't hit the front brake, Put it in first gear! while watching his wild videos.

This is just a very small sample; he has hours of video. In one video there were two guys on full Harley baggers! Not me, not on any of my bikes!

 

[Killer Bee]

actually, there's a bus ascending where the motorhome is stopped, those two drivers might be negotiating their pass. or the motorhome driver might be attempting to stay right in his lane and got close to the guard rail. either way doesn't look like the driver lost control of his vehicle, but he's an idiot.

on the other hand... most of the two wheelers appear to have minimal to no control. maybe they should look elsewhere to sight see or adjust their equipment so they can maintain control.

bottom line - it's a public roadway, not a private motorcycle track. learn how to control your 'cycle, it's not every other motorist's responsibility.

 

[Jeepnik]

Well all I saw was a bunch of self entitled (especially the guy that hit the motor home) and very poor riders. I have to wonder how many of those bikes were rentals.

 

[vito]

Another reason I prefer my current ride, a three wheeler. I had two tip overs with a two week period with my Honda Goldwing a few years back, and both times needed a lot of help to get the bike upright. I was 78 at the time and decided I needed either a much lighter bike or three wheels. I went with a CanAm Spyder and love it! No worries about tipping over at slow speed or at a stop; or when asphalt turns to gravel or dirt. I hope to make it at least to 90 as a motorcyclist.

 

[Springer2]

I have been a licensed motorcycle rider since 1971. Most "errors" on the road are made by cars but the bikers end up losing just due to size and weight of the vehicles involved. The last bike I rode regularly (I still have some antique bikes) was a Goldwing and there is no doubt as I got older, the greater the challenge balancing the bike at low speed. Watching this reminds me why I ride in cars now.

 

[coachk64]

I'm a regular rider of a Goldwing, and have been for more than 30 years, and I can certainly see myself running into an unexpected stop at the top of a hill, with a hairpin turn and a steep camber in the road. All of these happening at the same time could easily lead to a bike tipping over.

Remember that he probably took videos of hundreds of bikes that didn't run into problems, and every bike that did (with the possible exception of the harley that had to keep backing up and turning) was stopped by or had to avoid other traffic.

 

[MaxMan]

I thought the horn was the control of choice is Italy.

 

[WanderLust]

Cholo, I'm sure you have been to Deal's Gap (Tail of the Dragon) on Hwy 129 just over the Tn boundary. For the folks who don't know, there's a
photographer who sets up at the prominent corners and shoots the bikes and cars scooting around the corners there. His name is Killboy and he actually hires extra guys to shoot on busy days. They have a website where they post a lot of these shots. And there's always a picture or two of the famous deputy who's gonna "teach those bikers a lesson". They show the patrol car being winched from way out in the woods! Back in the day, this same photgrapher would trail you on his bike and video you going through the curves there (318 curves in 11 miles). His preferred chase bike? A modified Goldwing. And not many guys would ever leave him behind either. It's still the rider more than the bike. Safe riding to all!

 

[Cholo]

I've done the "Dragon" about 3x on my bike and 5x in a car. After the first time I only go there with others who want to do it. In the spring I did it in my car with my 8 and 9 year old grandkids. They loved it! I didn't love it at all after that first time.

If you know the time you went past Killboy you can look it up on his website page within a day. At that curve in Stelvio Pass they have 3 photographers taking incredible photos. One guy, I believe on a Goldwing, took that curve really tight uphill with one hand on the bars while looking at his cell phone in his other hand

 

[pisgah]

I own 3 motorcycles and ride all the time. Love the sport, love the people, but you will find no concentration of pure idiots as dense as you'll see any day on roads like the Tail of the Dragon, Stelvio Pass, etc.

Sorry,but ride like an idiot and your odds of dying like one will remain high...

 

[coachk64]

I've done the tail once in a Chevy Suburban and once on my Goldwing. On the bike it was cool day in the middle of the week so I was all on my own and was very happy about that. When I got to Deal's Gap there was a large group of "crotch rockets" all lined up and ready to start the other direction so I timed it perfectly.

 

[Track14]

Another reason I prefer my current ride, a three wheeler. I had two tip overs with a two week period with my Honda Goldwing a few years back, and both times needed a lot of help to get the bike upright. I was 78 at the time and decided I needed either a much lighter bike or three wheels. I went with a CanAm Spyder and love it! No worries about tipping over at slow speed or at a stop; or when asphalt turns to gravel or dirt. I hope to make it at least to 90 as a motorcyclist.

The two wheels up front on the three wheeler make a big positive stabile ride. I opted for this when I got older and after 6 years of riding it i sold it at age 78.

 

[vito]

Three wheels make the vehicle more stabil. But sitting inside a vehicle, and having a steering wheel, makes it a car not a motorcycle. When I ride my Mini Cooper S convertible it is fun, but it is still a car despite the roof being down. When I ride my Spyder, the seating position and handlebars make the ride the same as when on a two wheel motorcycle and is a totally different experience than being in my convertible. My three wheeler does not lean through curves, but must be steered through the curves, but that difference is far less of a negative than I thought it would be. The Spyder is so enjoyable to ride that I sold my remaining 2 wheeler, a Roya Enfield Hunter 350 because I almost never took it out of the garage. Whenever I had the chance the ride I wanted the Spyder, so the Hunter was sold.

 

[Track14]

Three wheels make the vehicle more stabil. But sitting inside a vehicle, and having a steering wheel, makes it a car not a motorcycle. When I ride my Mini Cooper S convertible it is fun, but it is still a car despite the roof being down. When I ride my Spyder, the seating position and handlebars make the ride the same as when on a two wheel motorcycle and is a totally different experience than being in my convertible. My three wheeler does not lean through curves, but must be steered through the curves, but that difference is far less of a negative than I thought it would be. The Spyder is so enjoyable to ride that I sold my remaining 2 wheeler, a Roya Enfield Hunter 350 because I almost never took it out of the garage. Whenever I had the chance the ride I wanted the Spyder, so the Hunter was sold.

our state calls them motorcycles. which has advantages. What I thought was hilarious the motor vehicle dept noticed i had a disabled license plate for my mini cooper so they asked if i wanted them for the Morgan Thre Wheeler!, Sure

 

[el caminero]

Always thought a moggie would be fun, then harley bought the trihawk-thing. and buried it. Still i side iwith dad who said i would rather a sidecar than a trike, but the vadnerhall looks as fun as ye aulde moggie.

 

[el caminero]

I've done the tail once in a Chevy Suburban and once on my Goldwing. On the bike it was cool day in the middle of the week so I was all on my own and was very happy about that. When I got to Deal's Gap there was a large group of "crotch rockets" all lined up and ready to start the other direction so I timed it perfectly.

There was a video, the tail iirc, a guy following a bagger hog and not keeping up too well in the corners. The hog tramped out once and the rider was on it instantly, despite hanging off. Fun video.

 

[blume357]

Nothing against bikers even though I think there are a few that might be a tad crazy....

We had a road up from Greenville that leads to the top of a mountain called Caesars Head and it is a favorite of bikers on the weekend ... few years back there was an article in the paper about the issue with bikers having wrecks and driving off the steep roads many from going too fast... they interviewed a widow of one of these bikers and it was determined in the article the fault was the S.C. Highway Department because they would not put a state trooper up there to monitor the road..........same with the county police..... all their fault for not patrolling up there more. I'm not making this up.