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[44-357]

last week I got a new looking P95dc 9mm for $200 no box nor extra mag.I fired it yesterday and it did very nice.it handles great and will make a good match to my p97 45apc.it is a later p95 with the rail on the frame.they are great little guns.

 

[lipofsky]

Damn!, wish I could stumble onto something like that. My P-95 is a late 90's model no rail and it is a tank that eats anything.

 

[DA_TriggR4Ruger]

last week I got a new looking P95dc 9mm for $200 no box nor extra mag.I fired it yesterday and it did very nice.it handles great and will make a good match to my p97 45apc.it is a later p95 with the rail on the frame.they are great little guns.

$200 is a great price, but FWIW, I probably would have used it on ammo or towards a better gun.

 

[44-357]

I have a few rds been making em since the early 1980s been ready for this crap storm before most were born. i was a boy scout and whats the motto ?

 

[revhigh]

last week I got a new looking P95dc 9mm for $200 no box nor extra mag.I fired it yesterday and it did very nice.it handles great and will make a good match to my p97 45apc.it is a later p95 with the rail on the frame.they are great little guns.

$200 is a great price, but FWIW, I probably would have used it on ammo or towards a better gun.

Better put your flame suit on ...

You'll now be told that these guns sell for $350+ and be given a bunch of gunbroker ads.

REV

 

[Al James]

last week I got a new looking P95dc 9mm for $200 no box nor extra mag.I fired it yesterday and it did very nice.it handles great and will make a good match to my p97 45apc.it is a later p95 with the rail on the frame.they are great little guns.

$200 is a great price, but FWIW, I probably would have used it on ammo or towards a better gun.

:roll: Not worth much.

Great deal on a great gun OP! Shoot the crap out of it and you will still sell it for $100-150 dollar profit. Nevermind what the haters think you should have bought instead.

 

[revhigh]

LOL ... Told ya ....

 

[DA_TriggR4Ruger]

Lol. I even agreed that it was a great price. I still stand by what I say though.

 

[Al James]

Lol. I even agreed that it was a great price. I still stand by what I say though.

Ha, ha, you two Ruger forum dwelling Ruger haters are just so funny. The guy is excited about his new P95 and you tell him he should have saved his money for a better gun or some ammo.

Its no small wonder you think he should have saved his money for more ammo.....last week you posted [on a Ruger forum] how excited you were about purchasing a 50AE Desert Eagle. The same poster that calls P series pistols bulky and not so ergonomic buys a 4.5lb gas operated semiauto pistol. :shock:

You need to realize that many people that own and appreciate Ruger products have the financial ability to buy whatever pistol they want. I have owned many of the pistols that you tout here on the RUGER forum, for my uses they do nothing better than a Ruger pistol. The Ruger pistols that I have owned have all been 100% reliable, accurate enough for my uses, and best of all....Made in America. And thankfully, they don't come with a free annual membership in the GSOA [Gun Snobs of America] club either.

These save your money up and buy a real gun posts are not only presumptive....but also border on rude IMO. Just a thought :wink:

 

[revhigh]

Lol. I even agreed that it was a great price. I still stand by what I say though.

I warned ya DA ... Now you went and riled up the fanbois.

FYI .... They go for $200-250 where I am too.

CDNN sold brand new 95's for $249 several years ago. Had them on sale for several months at that price. I was the one who posted the heads up that CDNN had them for that price.

aljames should put a few 95's up for sale in our classifieds at $350 and see how fast they sell .....

REV

 

[Osage]

44-357:

Ignore them their ego shows, you know you made a hell'va good purchase on a rock solid hangun. At that price I would have bought it in a heartbeat and yes so would have they.

Al:
Its interesting you should say that, I couldn't agree more. Among the handguns I own some are high end and some aren't, including a Walther P5 and a Ruger P89, but price does not make a reliable and accurate firearm. FWIW, by personal choice I don't own any Sig's or Smith's.

Osage

 

[s4s4u]

better gun

Please define "better" for me. Better value? Better ergonomics? Better accuracy? Or, just more expensive?

 

[Al James]

Rev, the classifieds here generate fairly low traffic and do not seem to bring full market price on some items including P95's. What items sell for here in fixed price ads, on a relatively low traffic forum classified section, do not indicate a true market value. Sorry, but they just don't. BTW the last P95DC I posted in the classifieds for sale here was for $300. NO box or paperwork, 1 mag. Sold in 3 minutes. Literally. And the last one I bought here was a KP95DPR15 and I paid $350 for it.

Also, there are regional price differences just as there is with real estate, cars, groceries, gas, etc. When it comes to guns all of the regional price differences disappear when using resources such as Gunbroker. I personally list a few items here and if they don't sell here they end up on Gun Broker and usually bring more than what I had them listed here for.

Also Rev, I'm not sure what CDNN's price in 2007 has to do with 2015 prices? Nationally, P gun prices are way up Rev. Against all of your wisdom I bought every clean Decock only P gun I could find and afford starting around 2007 when they were discontinued. My experience has always been that when a company stops making something good [decock only P guns] price and demand will increase.

Recently I have been leaning out my gun collection quite a bit in order to finance other adventures, the last 5 metal framed P guns that I have sold on Gunbroker have all closed well north of $400. Rev, one of your personal favorites [the P91DC] just sold for $500.

http://www.rugerforum.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=227683

And these are ALL penny start auctions with no Reserve. In other words, its what buyers are ACTUALLY paying. These were sold on Gunbroker with a national audience, not sitting on a bottom shelf in some depressed city. Those are the real world prices Rev. Not my fantasy land or your circa 2007 pricing.

I remember when you used to tell me that you could buy LNIB P guns all day long for $200 when they were selling on Gunbroker for $300. I told you then that you should get your FFL and start selling them for a profit on Gunbroker. Your response was that you could not be bothered to only make $100[50%]. Well now you would be at 100-150% profit on those lousy, good for nothing, P shooters. Are those margins still not worth your time Rev?

I'm sorry you missed the boat Rev. But according to you its still parked in your area, so its not too late. You and the other haters can keep posting on the Ruger Forum about passing up $200 p guns for more ammo or a "better" gun all you want, I'll be at the bank :wink:

 

[Heliman]

I have one with a rail and mounted a Streamlight on it. It is my night stand gun. Dead on reliable and heavy enough for use as a club if needed....... Paid $265 NIB out the door. Dang good buy IMO. Not a good carry choice, but serves it's intended purpose well.

Dave

 

[revhigh]

I have one with a rail and mounted a Streamlight on it. It is my night stand gun. Dead on reliable and heavy enough for use as a club if needed....... Paid $265 NIB out the door. Dang good buy IMO. Not a good carry choice, but serves it's intended purpose well.

Dave

Agreed Dave ... I've always liked the 95's, I wouldn't go out of my way to own one, but I've shot several and it was ok for a cheap 9. It's why I posted the link years ago when they were going for $249 brand new ... I knew lots of people here like anything Ruger, and the cheaper the better. Reliable as a rock, just big and bulky and not very accurate.

The price you paid says it all. At $250 nib ... Better than any hi point, for sure. After having extremely bad luck with 2 Pee guns ... An 89, and a 91 .... Both with absolutely horrendous accuracy ... I'm done with them ... And I don't want to try to peddle them either for a measly $50-100 a pop on gunbroker ... Don't need the money that bad for the hassle involved. They don't sell in my area well at all. They're good nightstand or truck or tackle box guns, but when it comes to accuracy at the range ... Which is what 99.999% of gun owners do if they're not shooting cans or old monitors ... Fuhgettaboutit.

How many people on this forum have ever actually used a gun to shoot someone in self defense ? Probably close to ZERO ... If not zero ... so I have no use for guns that are 'minute of torso accurate' or 'paper plate accurate' or 'combat accurate' or any of the other cute catchy phrases that try to justify handguns that have lousy accuracy.

If the guns you own have acceptable accuracy for your tastes ... No matter the brand ... GREAT ! Enjoy them and don't worry about what anybody else says. But don't try to pretend that there's not HUGE differences in accuracy, quality, machining, and level of fit and finish in higher level (which usually means higher priced ... But not always) guns. I bought my Sig P226 used in like new condition for $399, and my Sig P225 for $249 .... Both used, both like new from CDNN when the West German police upgraded to newer guns. Both are 20+ years old and they're the most accurate 9mm semi autos I've ever seen.

REV

 

[mafuta54]

Got my P95DC in December 1996. It has been flawless.

 

[welder]

Picked up a couple parts kits on GB for mine, everything but the frame, along with assorted extras to keep my P series going for lifetimes to come. Also just received 10 new 15rd mags for them for 20 bucks a pop. Got my springs back when they were available from Midway along with some from Ruger as late as last year. I haven't needed to change a part or spring yet though.

A "P" gun resides in every vehicle I own and you might find a couple more around the shop or on the boat. Low cost back up insurance for me.
I pick up every one I see in 98% condition and will continue to do so, I never have a problem selling them either as they have a good following still.

 

[DA_TriggR4Ruger]

better gun

Please define "better" for me. Better value? Better ergonomics? Better accuracy? Or, just more expensive?

All of the above, in the same price range.

 

[s4s4u]

better gun

Please define "better" for me. Better value? Better ergonomics? Better accuracy? Or, just more expensive?

All of the above, in the same price range.

Show me?

 

[DA_TriggR4Ruger]

www.slickguns.com
Bunch of Sigs, Glocks, CZ/Witness/Tristar, etc. All for the 300-400 range.

None of them discontinued models.

You can even land a Sig P226 for 450.

 

[s4s4u]

http://www.slickguns.com
Bunch of Sigs, Glocks, CZ/Witness/Tristar, etc. All for the 300-400 range.

None of them discontinued models.

You can even land a Sig P226 for 450.

Not all are "better", sorry.

 

[DA_TriggR4Ruger]

They are "common designs" still manufactured, with with reliability and accuracy that is documented as greater than a Ruger P Series.

I'm admitting that my opinion means nothing here. Just sharing.

 

[s4s4u]

Dunno about that. I bought my daughter a P95 for her house gun when she moved out. We have run 1000's of rounds through that gun and it has not failed once.

 

[DA_TriggR4Ruger]

If the Ruger P-series was so great, Ruger wouldn't have canned it and made the SR series. Which, if that's even better is debatable. lol

Again, my opinion means nothing here. Just presenting thoughts.

But what do I know? I loved the Taurus PT9XX series and Taurus canned them, in favor of a design that is now on RECALL. Yes I gave all my Taurus guns to friends and family. Wouldn't hesitate to own another Raging Bull 5 inch 5 shot .454.

Proven designs, exhibiting superior reliability and accuracy, designs that are often copied (you can still get parts for them relatively easy) I'm not saying to go buy a 1911. I'm actually NOT a big fan. Again, proven designs are what to look for when purchasing a pistol with your hard earned $$$

I love Rugers, I have a pretty decent size collection. Just none of their Semi-autos pistols.

I enjoy the superior quality and performance exhibited by their revolvers and rifles, why can't they build their semi-auto pistol line based on the same idea? Yes they offer a 1911, but, again, I'm just not a fan of the platform...

I'm not saying go copy the CZ75. Absolutely, though, make something better.

There are guns still around, guns that were designed before the Ruger P-series, these same guns that will be manufactured years to come, parts will always be available. Accuracy and reliability will diminish over the years, but parts will always be available to "tune" them or repair them as they break, as all mechanical things do.

The P-series Rugers are exactly what Ruger wants them to be, a memory. Exhibiting substandard reliability and accuracy. The really good ones are modded by their owners. However the legal issues that could potentially create if used "a modified weapon" in an actual shooting to defend your life is a subject best left to another thread.

Though I'm sure if the search function on this forum worked like a Sig rather than a P95, you might be able to find it for yourself.

 

[s4s4u]

You are entitled to your opinion, although I disagree with most of it. But, we have not had a single problem with the P95 and it shoots where it is aimed. Have a nice day, I'm not gonna carry on with this nonsense.

 

[FergusonTO35]

I like the P95, and the one I used to have was a very good pistol. That said I never fell in love with it or thought it was irreplaceable. When all the other P-guns were discontinued I saw the writing on the wall and sold it for what I paid for it. If I came across a screaming deal on a 95 I would probably buy it, enjoy it for awhile, then sell for a higher price.

 

[DA_TriggR4Ruger]

I like the P95, and the one I used to have was a very good pistol. That said I never fell in love with it or thought it was irreplaceable. When all the other P-guns were discontinued I saw the writing on the wall and sold it for what I paid for it. If I came across a screaming deal on a 95 I would probably buy it, enjoy it for awhile, then sell for a higher price.

This! +1

 

[revhigh]

Dunno about that. I bought my daughter a P95 for her house gun when she moved out. We have run 1000's of rounds through that gun and it has not failed once.

This post exactly proves my point ... Nobody debates that the Pee series guns are fairly reliable ... But you CAN have the same or better reliability along with FAR BETTER accuracy and FAR BETTER trigger for the same price. Why on earth wouldn't anybody want that ?

If you're spending the $400-500 that aljames claims he regularly gets for Pee series guns ... Why on earth wouldn't you be buying Sigs and CZ's at the same price point ? Only a fool or somebody that doesn't know guns or that can't appreciate the increased accuracy would spend that kind of money on Pee series guns when FAR BETTER guns were available at the same price.

Just because some fool on the Internet is willing to spend stupid money for a given gun does not validate the gun ... It just validates the stupidity of the buyer.

If you want to know true values ... Look at the Blue Book of guns ...

REV

 

[Al James]

Rev, Where do you think Blue book of Gun Values get their numbers from? Thin air? Internet forum experts on everything? Or from actual auction sale prices?

The internet has changed the rules. The every few years you get a new edition "Blue Book" is playing an every few years game of catch up with actual market trends. The book only reflects trends from the PREVIOUS years since the last edition. There is nothing current about it. I've owned and used several volumes and have found them to be useful as guides only. I am more convinced by what people ARE actually paying for an item yesterday, not by what the "newest" edition of the blue book says people were paying in 2013.

Perfect example was just a few years ago. One month after Sandy Hook would you have rather sold your NIB Mini-14 for what the blue book said it was worth or for the actual current market value?

And Rev, My "claims" are based on actual Gunbroker sales from the last few months. They are NOT based your opinions or local PA pricing.

Thanks :wink:

 

[revhigh]

Great ! Carry on !