Most heavily armed States

[Fox Mike]

Very interesting. I see that my home State is tied with Pennsylvania at #11. We have more guns per 1000 residents than Texas. Look where your State is.
http://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/most-heavily-armed-states-in-america/?ftag=ACQ812ebde

 

[5of7]

Well I don't know how they figure it, because they say that there are 42,855 registered firearms in Mi., yet according to the MSP concealed handgun license report, we have nearly 500,000 CPLs in Mi. 8)

http://www.mlive.com/news/kalamazoo/index.ssf/2016/01/7_of_michigan_adults_have_conc.html?appSession=20062949143695777965466740058073775811253881299206313181434797426959499636701562446867909817746537041934613881507819166348062703

 

[tsubaki]

There are no firearms registrations allowed by law in the state of Georgia.
Excluding the federal stamp permits.
CBS as usual is reporting whatever they want to make news with.

 

[GunnyGene]

There are no firearms registrations allowed by law in the state of Georgia.
Excluding the federal stamp permits.
CBS as usual is reporting whatever they want to make news with.

Yep, same for MS and many other states. Bogus 3 year old stats put together by some bored CBS intern to provide fodder for the low info masses. :roll:

 

[Cholo]

I've seen these lists before and they're a bad guess at best. From GA:

"For every 1,000 residents in Georgia, there are 14.6 guns. That's 145,412 registered firearms dispersed among 9,992,167 people."

Um, there's no firearm registration in GA. In fact, there's no NICS check if you have a carry license. How can they possibly make that claim of gun ownership numbers? And it's not just GA.

(I was posting before I saw tsubaki's post)

 

[blume357]

It's a silly news story that is heavily flawed... the first problem is 'registered guns' as mentioned.... what the heck is all that about? Unfortunately the sheeple out there believe what they see on tv. As an example (NCIS) and I assume other crime programs are always tracking the gun through some mystical registration data base....

Friend of my wife's moved to New Zealand and we were 'discussing' gun ownership and the best I could come up with for down there was just over a million (short and long) which comes out to about one gun for every five folks... as compared to the U.S. and the best I could come up with was just about one gun for every person in the U.S. which is around 330 million. Since I have my entire block covered.....

 

[Busterswoodshop]

That is just the guns they know about or think they know about.
I would venture to guess there are more guns ( in my state anyway ) they don't know about than there are guns they do know about.

 

[tsubaki]

The state of Georgia actually has a law forbidding the registration of firearms.
I'm away from a real computer this weekend but you look it up.

 

[Jimbo357mag]

Guesses about firearm ownership are just about useless. I think I could do better. Southern and Western States probably have more guns per person than Central and Eastern States.

 

[The Norseman]

South Dakota and the Dakota's have the most firepower. Think about it.

Back in the day, ranchers, cowboys, and farmers, who were not being
feminized as a nation yet, needed real self defense / food gethering
for protecting property/animals (even now) have many the guns.

Also many guns are not recorded and now new one's are, and those guns
are never seen again because they are handed down from generation
to generation.

There is no way Firearms will be taken away from owners, it is mind
bogging the millions of guns out there. And the jobs related to this
industry.

 

[Bear Paw Jack]

I figured Idaho and Alaska would fare well and they did. I don't believe people have any idea how many guns are out there, but enough that some country isn't going to just come to the US and try to take it over.

 

[m657]

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[Fox Mike]

What isn't said is how many are long guns, how many before any "registration", etc. I just posted it for 'conversation '. I got that.

 

[wwb]

???? Where's their "data" ? All I get is a page with a brief description of their "methodology" and a pile of photos of people with firearms.

 

[warbird1975]

Even though it says Wyoming is number one, I would say they are way off on the number of "registered" guns in this state. Way off.

 

[Salmoneye]

There are no firearms registrations allowed by law in the state of Georgia.
Excluding the federal stamp permits.
CBS as usual is reporting whatever they want to make news with.

Bingo...

Totally bogus as usual...From the first page:

Here is a look at per capita weapons data, based on the ATF's National Firearms Registration and Transfer Record, and 2013 data from the U.S. Census.

While the ATF's National Firearms Registration and Transfer Record is the only accessible list of its kind, it is not all-inclusive. NFA firearms only include the categories regulated by The National Firearms Act of 1934: machine guns, short-barreled rifles, short-barreled shotguns, suppressors, destructive devices like bombs and grenades, concealable devices with the ability to discharge a shot through the energy of an explosive, and any firearm with a bore over half an inch that has not been determined to have a legitimate sporting use.

Absolutely meaningless...

 

[opos]

I love the look at the California statistics...does that include what comes across the border every day? Does it include the huge stash of stolen weapons in the Bario and Ghetto communities? How about the "lost" fast and furious guns that disappeared? I'll bet there is at least double the number of guns in California that they have shown on their listing...I got a couple of buddies that go a long way toward making up the total all by themselves.

 

[Pat-inCO]

As noted by most above, the "statistics" are flawed. A John Lott report
http://crimeresearch.org/wp-content...he-Crime-Prevention-Research-Center-Final.pdf
for mid 2015 shows statistics and logic on concealed carry for our nation.
It notes that there are TEN states that do not require a permit to carry
concealed, yet there are over twelve million permits. 2014 population
numbers show 318.9 million people. Presuming ONLY one gun per
permit holder (I'll just bet that's WAY low) then the "average" number of
guns in the U.S. would be 4 per 100 people (four percent); and that does
not say/imply anything about the ten states that do not require permits.

At best, flawed data. At worst, a lame try to "prove" something their
people know nothing about (at least that's the way they act). :roll:

And the propaganda rolls on. :shock:

 

[GunnyGene]

As noted by most above, the "statistics" are flawed. A John Lott report
http://crimeresearch.org/wp-content...he-Crime-Prevention-Research-Center-Final.pdf
for mid 2015 shows statistics and logic on concealed carry for our nation.
It notes that there are TEN states that do not require a permit to carry
concealed, yet there are over twelve million permits. 2014 population
numbers show 318.9 million people. Presuming ONLY one gun per
permit holder (I'll just bet that's WAY low) then the "average" number of
guns in the U.S. would be 4 per 100 people (four percent); and that does
not say/imply anything about the ten states that do not require permits.

At best, flawed data. At worst, a lame try to "prove" something their
people know nothing about (at least that's the way they act). :roll:

And the propaganda rolls on. :shock:

Just an update: As of this year there are 11 (maybe 12?) states that don't require a permit for CC.

 

[Sin6Sec63451022]

This would be about the same as saying how many cars are in a state and then include only 1987 Toyotas. At least, it shows that the stats are not readily available.

 

[RSIno1]

Gun "registration" counts are bogus. How about counting the Form 4473 that is filled out for every FFL sale? That would give you a number since 1968 but would still miss the millions of guns sold before then.

 

[Biggfoot44]

As noted above, this is refering to NFA items aka Class III , aka Stamp Collections.

 

[contender]

As I see it,, like all you you above, it is a heavily flawed "survey." I will call it BS!!!!!
Many good reasons have already been given.

What I found interesting was the #2 on the list,,, Washington DC. You know,, the same place where they have fought private handgun ownership for decades. To me,, IF,,,, IF,,, this was anywhere near correct,,, it screams that only the privileged elite & the armed guards of them are the armed ones. Doesn't that scare you?

 

[Pat-inCO]

Just an update: As of this year there are 11 (maybe 12?) states that don't require a permit for CC.

Tell Lott. I just quoted the report that is about a year old. :roll:

 

[exavid]

That's ridiculous to think that CCW holders would only have one firearm. I mean really, how could someone entertain wearing a plain old snubby or scruffy 9mm compact? How gauche! Next thing you know they'll be wearing a 1911 with ivory grips AFTER labor day. There's standards one should keep in society.

 

[blume357]

As a side note, as y'all know I consider myself the 'L' word... was down in Columbia last year staying with a friend who is also liberal at their home, his wife was working late and we were just hanging out and he mentioned that he was not really comfortable with guns and so did not own any.... later I went to bed in their guest room.... there were about 6 rifles just leaning against the wall over in the corner. I mentioned this to him and he said, "Oh, those belong to my wife." My only point being is someone asked him if he owned any guns his answer would be no and so a survey like person would probably list that as no guns in the 'home'.

 

[Ale-8(1)]

Gun "registration" counts are bogus. How about counting the Form 4473 that is filled out for every FFL sale? That would give you a number since 1968 but would still miss the millions of guns sold before then.

Imagine the effort ($$$$$) involved in having the BATFEIEIO troops go around to all the FFL holders and reviewing all their 4473s. Remember, so far these forms are held by the dealers as long as they are in business and are NOT reported to the feds . . . and we want it to stay that way.

There can be no meaningful stats on firearms ownership so long as we refuse to allow complete registration. ETERNAL VIGILANCE!!!

 

[Ale-8(1)]

There are no firearms registrations allowed by law in the state of Georgia.
Excluding the federal stamp permits.
CBS as usual is reporting whatever they want to make news with.

Bingo...

Totally bogus as usual...From the first page:

Here is a look at per capita weapons data, based on the ATF's National Firearms Registration and Transfer Record, and 2013 data from the U.S. Census.

While the ATF's National Firearms Registration and Transfer Record is the only accessible list of its kind, it is not all-inclusive. NFA firearms only include the categories regulated by The National Firearms Act of 1934: machine guns, short-barreled rifles, short-barreled shotguns, suppressors, destructive devices like bombs and grenades, concealable devices with the ability to discharge a shot through the energy of an explosive, and any firearm with a bore over half an inch that has not been determined to have a legitimate sporting use.[/b]

Absolutely meaningless...

Yes. As highlighted above, this collection of data apparently only covers the NFA stuff, not any of the "legitimate" firearms. The "low information" public will not understand the significance of that difference. It's leftist propaganda and it is unfortunately effective to its intended demographic.

:evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

 

[blume357]

don't FFL's have to send in their stats... long and short guns... or at least the FBI can keep track of the number of background checks that are done and approved in each state.... still doesn't show the number of guns in a state but does reflect the buying public.

 

[Ale-8(1)]

FFLs keep their records until they close up shop. The BATFEIEIO folks can visit and look then over, I believe.

The FBI is prohibited from retaining the NICS check data . . . supposedly.

California Governor Jerry Brown today signed a new law that will require a background check and registration on ammo purchases. Works just about as well as registering the guns.

:evil: :evil: :evil: