Manners ~ old story.....

Bob Wright

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This is a story I heard back in my youth:

A white haired old gentleman entered a high rise building and went to the elevator. He enter the cr and turned around. Seconds later a young woman entered before the operator closed the doors. With her entrance, he removed his hat.

As the elevator ascended it stopped at the next floor, and the third.

Agitated, the young woman grumbled, "Does this elevator stop at every d____d floor!"

Whereupon the older gent replaced his hat on his head.



Bob Wright
 
There's the story of Phillip Stanhope Dormer-Lord Chesterfield. An 18th Century English nobleman noted for his good manners and courtesy. One day he was walking with a friend near his London house when one of his servants approached him and asked for some instructions for a task. Lord Chesterfield told the man what he wanted done, then stepped off the sidewalk into the street to let the man pass.
His friend said:
"Why did you step aside for him ? He is no gentleman!"
To which Lord Chesterfield replied:
"No, but I am!"
 
blume357 said:
Unfortunately I've lost a lot of what I was taught... I still remember standing up when ever a woman walked in the room.
But still can't wear a hat in church.

Wearing a hat in church gives me a WRONG feeling. However, when I was
young the ladies, both young and older were required to wear a head covering of some kind.
 
opening doors goes back to protecting the woman from touching public surfaces...that could have germs, that could be transfered to mothers children.
its also why women wore gloves and never extended a hand to greet someone. all men knew these health practices and never offered a hand shake to women.
everyone knew the woman offered the hand first only if covered. a man never forced himself on a woman.
customs rarely practiced anymore.
I miss old AMERICAN culture.
 
Not smart enough to understand what that means Mr Wright. Since it was presented with my post quoted I assume you disagree with my post.
I have not changed my mind. Further my wife, mother, and two daughters will say daym and I will fight any man who says they are not ladies.
 
C-A, I believe Bob's agreeing with you, but I can't speak for him.

What's in the well (heart) will come up in the bucket (from the lips).

At least that's how I read it.
 
gjgalligan said:
If the man really had manners he would have removed his hat when he first entered the building.

No, not in a commercial building, office building, department store, etc. Only upon entering someone's office or leased area in a building. Not easily defined, but gentlemen know. A man keeps his hat on when entering the courthouse, for example, but removes it when entering a courtroom. He keeps his hat on in a restaurant, but removes it when seated.

Bob Wright
 
Last time I was in a court house (jury duty) I had to remove my belt and empty my pockets. To get through the metal detector. Then I was hurried along trying to keep my pants from falling down. The officer of the court yelled at me to remove my hat. I took off my hat and my pants fell to the ground.

I asked him if he was happy now?

Now I find out I could have kept it on? I never made it to the courtroom.

I did know it was ok to wear a hat at an indoor sporting event.
 
The rules that allow women to keep their hats on in buildings and for the national anthem are only supposed to apply to fashion hats. If a woman is wearing a unisex hat like a baseball cap or cowboy hat they are supposed to follow the same rules as men.

Also cancer patients are allowed to keep their hats on.
 
As a child we were taught in school to "remove your hat when entering a public building". If anyone entered the school and did NOT immediately remove his hat he would be yelled at by other students or reprimanded by the teachers. I still practice that, and still think of those wearing a hat while seated at a table in a restaurant as uncouth bumpkins who don't know better. (Sad to say this includes one of my own son-in-laws, who ALWAYS gets annoyed with me when I insist he remove his hat if seated at the same table as I am).

Other manners which are disappearing include the phrase "You're welcome" after being told "Thank You". Seems the current reply to "Thank You" is "No problem".

And finally, good manners used to mean dressing appropriately for various occasions. Flying on a commercial aircraft was an expensive and unusual event for most people prior to the 1970's or so. In fact, while early in my military career, when I suggested to a Sergeant who worked for me and was departing shortly on leave to visit his family across the country that he fly rather than go by Greyhound Bus, his reply was that "only rich people fly. People like me take the bus or the train." I showed him that with the 50% discount all the airlines offered to active duty military traveling in uniform he could fly for less that the total cost of bus travel, and save a few days in the process. He was amazed and said that he followed my advice and flew for the first time in his life (he was in his late 40's). So people dressed up for flying. Men wore ties and jackets and women wore dresses and hats. You would never see someone wearing jeans getting on a plane, let alone wearing what look like work out clothes from the gym. That practice sure went by the wayside and nowadays you see people at the airport traveling in clothes that I might wear if I was cleaning out a grease pit somewhere.
 
In our courthouse, hats are allowed in the lobby but not in the courtroom. I have had to request people to remove their head coverings , unless there is a medical issue. I had one person tell me it was his right to wear a hat indoors. The Judge, a redheaded Irishman, let him know how the cow ate the cabbage! What really gets me is when they walk in the courtroom with their britches hanging so low , their underwear was showing! I had permission from the judge to escort them outside, and place suspenders on them or use a cloth belt. Lots of unhappy street urchins complained, but oh well!
 
Dressing down has become the norm. In my Army days (1967-1971) you only went off-post in fatigues if you were on duty or going to and from quarters, flying on leave, arriving at a new duty station, Class As or khakis. In school, school clothes meant slacks and shoes for the boys, no jeans or sneakers. Nowadays military personnel traveling in ACUs or whatever they call them is "macho", the kids have to wear sneakers to school-shoes scuff up the floors.
 
vito said:
As a child we were taught in school to "remove your hat when entering a public building". If anyone entered the school and did NOT immediately remove his hat he would be yelled at by other students or reprimanded by the teachers. I still practice that, and still think of those wearing a hat while seated at a table in a restaurant as uncouth bumpkins who don't know better. (Sad to say this includes one of my own son-in-laws, who ALWAYS gets annoyed with me when I insist he remove his hat if seated at the same table as I am).

Other manners which are disappearing include the phrase "You're welcome" after being told "Thank You". Seems the current reply to "Thank You" is "No problem".

And finally, good manners used to mean dressing appropriately for various occasions. Flying on a commercial aircraft was an expensive and unusual event for most people prior to the 1970's or so. In fact, while early in my military career, when I suggested to a Sergeant who worked for me and was departing shortly on leave to visit his family across the country that he fly rather than go by Greyhound Bus, his reply was that "only rich people fly. People like me take the bus or the train." I showed him that with the 50% discount all the airlines offered to active duty military traveling in uniform he could fly for less that the total cost of bus travel, and save a few days in the process. He was amazed and said that he followed my advice and flew for the first time in his life (he was in his late 40's). So people dressed up for flying. Men wore ties and jackets and women wore dresses and hats. You would never see someone wearing jeans getting on a plane, let alone wearing what look like work out clothes from the gym. That practice sure went by the wayside and nowadays you see people at the airport traveling in clothes that I might wear if I was cleaning out a grease pit somewhere.
Back in that day airlines do DNR shoehorn their customers into seats and hand them a bag of peanuts either. Times change, standards change. Hardly ever for the better.
 
I’ve seen someone trimming their toenails in an airport lounge. Wearing jeans is the least of the things I don’t want to see while flying.
 
coach said:
. Wearing jeans is the least of the things I don’t want to see while flying.

Strange; I ALWAYS wear Jeans while flying; They have a permanent crease ironed down the front and back, fitted my waist and are quite comfortable; Compared to many people I am quite WELL DRESSED in them.
 
I usually wear jeans when flying too. My syntax might need a little help. I meant who cares about jeans on the plane. 8) Now snakes on the plane are another story. :D
 

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