Mandatory Evacuations...

[blume357]

I understand the reasoning of calling for one even with the mess it makes... but how 'legally' can the governor or mayor or what ever official actually make you leave your home and property? How does this actually work?
The news people keep reporting in places where one has been called... and their they stand on the beach and usually showing other folks who are not leaving town.

 

[Colonialgirl]

They tell the people that IF they STAY and something happens, FORGET getting any HELP ; Emergency service people WILL NOT respond to the area.

 

[blume357]

Well, I kind of figure that... but that would not keep me from staying.. for sure. Since the only time I've ever called 'emergency services' was to report an attempt to steal my van.... just because it's what you are supposed to do... did not expect them to catch the guy... he was long gone off into the night..

Do they come and knock on your door and tell you you have to leave.. and then the next question... what is done when you don't?

 

[Jimbo357mag]

People can stay on their own property during an emergency evacuation if they like. Fire, flood hurricane it doesn't matter. Yes they come to your door and tell you to leave or as mentioned above you stay at your own risk. There are actually people that are going to stay on Key West. There is a school there that will be open for anyone that survives and has no place to go.

 

[CraigC]

I was born in Florida and lived there for 32yrs. I also worked quite a bit of overtime repairing storm damage so I'm well aware of what they're capable of. We never got bent out of shape when a hurricane was looming nearby. Nor did we cut and run at the sight of one. When you live with it, you aren't quite as panicky as those idiots on the news. I think it's silly and reminds me of Chicken Little.

 

[caryc]

They're probably just covering their own butts. If you decide to stay, as others have said, first responders will not come to your rescue. In other words you can't hold anyone else responsible for what happens to you.

 

[CraigC]

No different from any other day then.

 

[BlkHawk73]

Call me heartless or whatever else but anyone that stays and expects help/aid because of it... they get all they asked for.

 

[caryc]

Call me heartless or whatever else but anyone that stays and expects help/aid because of it... they get all they asked for.

If I stayed to protect my property in a mandatory evacuation, I wouldn't expect any help. It's my choice.

 

[CraigC]

Call me heartless or whatever else but anyone that stays and expects help/aid because of it... they get all they asked for.

That's real easy to say when it ain't yours. If I tucked tail and ran every time a hurricane threatened home base, I would've stayed on the road all the time. About like if they had mandatory evacuations every time it snowed in Maine. :roll:

 

[caryc]

Call me heartless or whatever else but anyone that stays and expects help/aid because of it... they get all they asked for.

That's real easy to say when it ain't yours. If I tucked tail and ran every time a hurricane threatened home base, I would've stayed on the road all the time. About like if they had mandatory evacuations every time it snowed in Maine. :roll:

We don't have hurricanes out here but we do have wild fires. If I stayed on through a mandatory evacuation, I wouldn't expect anyone to risk their life to rescue me.

It would be nice though if one of the bombers came over and dumped a load of borate on my head. :mrgreen: I guess they don't call it borate anymore. I don't know what they call it now. But we sure do admire those bomber pilots and the helicoptor pilots. It's really something to see those guys in action.

They use the BIG planes for bombers now but the air strip in Hemet used to send out those old TBF's. Torpedo Bomber Fighters. They were really something to watch. You'd swear they were going to crash sometimes, they flew so low into those fires. I used to work at a small manufacturing company that made aircraft parts. We were in the same block as the airstrip and we always knew when there was a fire. There was no mistaking when they fired up one of those TBF's All our windows used to rattle, they were so loud.

 

[blume357]

The movie 'Always' was a bust in the theaters and critics did not like it either... but I thought it was a great movie.

 

[DeletedMember275]

Call me heartless or whatever else but anyone that stays and expects help/aid because of it... they get all they asked for.

That's real easy to say when it ain't yours. If I tucked tail and ran every time a hurricane threatened home base, I would've stayed on the road all the time. About like if they had mandatory evacuations every time it snowed in Maine. :roll:

We don't have hurricanes out here but we do have wild fires. If I stayed on through a mandatory evacuation, I wouldn't expect anyone to risk their life to rescue me.

It would be nice though if one of the bombers came over and dumped a load of borate on my head. :mrgreen: I guess they don't call it borate anymore. I don't know what they call it now. But we sure do admire those bomber pilots and the helicoptor pilots. It's really something to see those guys in action.

They use the BIG planes for bombers now but the air strip in Hemet used to send out those old TBF's. Torpedo Bomber Fighters. They were really something to watch. You'd swear they were going to crash sometimes, they flew so low into those fires. I used to work at a small manufacturing company that made aircraft parts. We were in the same block as the airstrip and we always knew when there was a fire. There was no mistaking when they fired up one of those TBF's All our windows used to rattle, they were so loud.

To pick a nit, the designation 'TBF' stands for Torpedo Bomber, Grumman. The 'F' was the Navy's designation for Grumman, who actually built relatively few Avenger torpedo bombers. Most of them were actually TBMs, built by the Eastern Aircraft Division of General Motors. Grumman's production of the F6-F Hellcat fighter was considered paramount, so Avenger production was contracted out to GM - something that GM initially struggled with, FWIW.

 

[BlkHawk73]

Call me heartless or whatever else but anyone that stays and expects help/aid because of it... they get all they asked for.

That's real easy to say when it ain't yours. If I tucked tail and ran every time a hurricane threatened home base, I would've stayed on the road all the time. About like if they had mandatory evacuations every time it snowed in Maine. :roll:

Actually, I do have some very good friends, some life long friends that are there. While I hope all is well for them, they choose to remain so whatever happens, well...happens. Big difference between a storm of this magnitude and a little snow storm. Even our major blizzards don't this this attention, the warnings, etc. It was a week long national story. The reports were not good, warnings went out well in advance.
Live in an area prone to a particular event, well...whose fault is that?

 

[CraigC]

No but they happen almost as often.

Just one of the many reasons why I changed my zip code.

 

[Jimbo357mag]

For the most part homes in South Florida can withstand hurricane force winds pretty well and there is no reason if they are boarded up properly for folks to evacuate. Folks in weaker homes, trailers, manufactured homes, should get into stronger buildings or shelters. The only people that need to evacuate are people that live on barrier islands or in areas prone to flooding. All the people that try and run from the storm end up with problems, like getting in traffic jams and problems getting back to their homes.

 

[DGW1949]

Call me heartless or whatever else but anyone that stays and expects help/aid because of it... they get all they asked for.

Well, call me stubborn "or whatever else" but I'm one of those folks that don't run, and as for "expects help/aid because of it" goes, I've never done that either. What I have done however, is lose count of how much damage I've had to fix, and all of the stuff I've had to replace due to various weather events which have struck my area of Texas...all on my own, which suits me just fine. Point being...regardless of how it looks from the news reports being played to you guys up north, we ain't all a bunch of unprepared idiots down here.
As far as Irma goes, my oldest Daughter lives in Clewiston Fla, and she and her family ain't running either. They are still right there, same as they have been for the past 25 years. Before that, she was either right here in S/E Texas, or in South Louisiana, so Irma won't be her first rodeo...not by a long shot.

Besides, I can think of lots things worse than dealing with hurricanes. Living above the Mason-Dixon Line comes to mind, and as far as that goes, you couldn't pour me or mine into Maine if they was giving away free land and a tractor. :lol: .

Just sayin'.

DGW

 

[tinman]

In this day and age.....and removing tornadoes, earthquakes and volcanoes from the mix.......everyone knows (many days in advance) when these storms are coming. The only thing that needs to be told to the populace is the following " there is a good likelihood that our community will be impacted by the coming storm......it is recommended that you leave the area. Please understand the following.......all of the Emergency Services Providers, along with their equipment, will be leaving the area until the storm passes. So, should you decide to stay, understand that there will be no organized support (Police, Fire, EMS, Utilities, etc.) available to you. Thank you for your attention".
It comes down to this......y'all wanna stay? Then stay......and quit wastin time and energy dissecting the verbiage of politicians that ain't got the stones to say the words that shoulda been used from the beginning. :idea:

 

[coach]

My sister in the Keys says all is well but still ugly.

 

[Colonialgirl]

It's going to be down to a CAT 1 apparently when the eye passes of they say "Temple Terrace which is a bit northeast of downtown Tampa.

 

[Rick Courtright]

It would be nice though if one of the bombers came over and dumped a load of borate on my head. :mrgreen: I guess they don't call it borate anymore. I don't know what they call it now. But we sure do admire those bomber pilots and the helicoptor pilots. It's really something to see those guys in action.

Hi,

Cary, the orange stuff you see coming from the planes these days is called Phos-Chek. You might want to think twice before asking for some on top of your head, cuz it's a sticky, long-lasting gel kind of stuff. Just watch how long a hillside stays orange where they've bombed it.

Now for the new thing I learned today! It appears one can buy the stuff to be used as a fire preventive around the home, too (and it's clear, so the place doesn't turn out bright orange!):

http://www.domyownpestcontrol.com/phoschek-long-term-fire-retardant-p-12514.html

Rick C

 

[caryc]

It would be nice though if one of the bombers came over and dumped a load of borate on my head. :mrgreen: I guess they don't call it borate anymore. I don't know what they call it now. But we sure do admire those bomber pilots and the helicoptor pilots. It's really something to see those guys in action.

Hi,

Cary, the orange stuff you see coming from the planes these days is called Phos-Chek. You might want to think twice before asking for some on top of your head, cuz it's a sticky, long-lasting gel kind of stuff. Just watch how long a hillside stays orange where they've bombed it.

Now for the new thing I learned today! It appears one can buy the stuff to be used as a fire preventive around the home, too (and it's clear, so the place doesn't turn out bright orange!):

http://www.domyownpestcontrol.com/phoschek-long-term-fire-retardant-p-12514.html

Rick C

I don't think you quite got what I meant. Rather than burn to death, I'd gladly take a load of phos check dumped on my head. I'm well aware of how long it lasts on the hills out here.

There's a funny story I heard that happened many many years ago. As I said, Ryan Field in Hemet is a fire bomber base. I forget what kind of planes they are now but they are yellow and have twin engines. One day one of them was taking off and was having trouble of some kind and couldn't get any altitude. So, he dumped his load to lessen the weight of the aircraft. He wound up dumping that load right square on a single house that was a mile or two past the end of the runway. The local fire department did send out equipment to wash the stuff off the house the best they could.