I need ,44 Special and Mag Cast load Recommendations for SBH

[Hylander]

I already have a couple good .44 Mag full house loads with H-110 and 2400, but am looking for suggestions for Mid loads,
say 900-1100 fps. I would prefer some mid to slower powder suggestions if possible.
Anyone use H-335 or the likes ?
Hopefully a ball powder or flake so it meters well.
Oh Ya, 240gr. cast

Thanks

 

[Iron Mike Golf]

See Don's experience with American Select.

http://www.rugerforum.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=146545

 

[Chief 101]

I like to use Winchester 231. Look it up in your books to get the velocity range you like. Alliant Unique also performs well at lower loadings. You will get a lot of different concoctions here and most all should be good. As far as numbers I will say 9-11 gr of Unique or 7-11gr 231. Check your books for better info
Chief aka Maxx Load

 

[Lefty SRH]

I have found HS-6 VERY accurate in my .44spl FT BH. 9.3gr HS-6 made 950-ish fps and 10.0gr HS-6 made 1050-ish, both were loaded with a 260gr Keith boolit I cast.

 

[WESHOOT2]

HS6.
Really.

 

[TULLYMARS]

HS6.

Yes, really.

 

[Rclark]

.44Mag - 10g of Unique under 240g bullet
.44Spec - 7.5g of Unique under 240g bullet

 

[Hylander]

.44Mag - 10g of Unique under 240g bullet
.44Spec - 7.5g of Unique under 240g bullet

Pretty standard loads
I was hoping for a load using a slower powder that fills the case better

 

[EDK]

Try HERCO.

I'm retired and shoot 48+ rounds of mid range ammo in 44 magnum brass daily. Cost wise, remember that you use more powder with the slower burning rates...UNIQUE versus 2400, etc....to achieve similar velocities. (I haven't used H110/296 in decades!) HERCO, UNIQUE, RED DOT/PROMO, POWER PISTOL, TITEGROUP, HP38/231 are all good choices, especially since I shoot mostly cast boolits and not a lot of gas checked except in my lever action rifles in pistol calibers.

 

[Jimbo357mag]

I like Blue Dot in the 44mag. 11.0gr - 13.0gr with a 240gr bullet.
Blue Dot is a med-slow burn rate powder with large flakes/grains.

A fine ball powder with a slow burn rate would be Accurate #9 .
15.0gr - 18.0gr and a 240gr bullet will do what you want.

These slower powders will give you a big Boom with gentle recoil. 8) 8)

 

[Chief 101]

If you want to fill the case look to SR4759. You may have to look to the manufacturer for data but I can say it should be accurate and case filling

 

[Biggfoot44]

Unique or 231. (Among others) will work fine. But if you wish a slower/ bulkier powder on purpose try 4227 , or 4579 for loads on the higher end , or 5744 .

 

[Rclark]

But if you wish a slower/ bulkier powder on purpose try 4227

Yep. Found it works well in .45 Colt, .44Spec, and .44Mag. In fact, it is my go to powder for .45 Colt. Just use a magnum primer with it. Didn't mention it, because it isn't my favorite in my .44s.... You can back down your 2400 to get where you need to go as well. 2400 can be loaded down.

 

[32magfan]

I use a lot of Clays in revolver cartridges for plinking level target loads. 4.5 gr Clays under 200gr RNFP in 44 SPL and 5.5-6.0 gr under 200 RNFP in 44 Mag. This powder burns clean and is very economical. Reduce charges by .5 gr to account for your 240 gr bullet.

Thanks,

32Magfan

 

[Lee Martin]

12.0 of Blue Dot or HS6 will get you there.

 

[WESHOOT2]

HS6.....

 

[Hylander]

Can 2400 be down loaded ?
Also anyone use Power Pistol ?

 

[Chief 101]

I have never used 2400 for other than full loads in 44mag but I see in the Lyman book #48 listings for 2400 and 240 lead in the 44sp loaded to as low as 10gr(760fps). That would be a download in my estimation.
Chief aka Maxx Load

 

[Jimbo357mag]

I have never used 2400 for other than full loads in 44mag but I see in the Lyman book #48 listings for 2400 and 240 lead in the 44sp loaded to as low as 10gr(760fps). That would be a download in my estimation.
Chief aka Maxx Load

Was there an asterisk saying the smoke and fire coming out of the barrel might obscure the target and light the grass on fire or anything like that? :shock: :shock: :mrgreen:

 

[captainkirk]

I have never used 2400 for other than full loads in 44mag but I see in the Lyman book #48 listings for 2400 and 240 lead in the 44sp loaded to as low as 10gr(760fps). That would be a download in my estimation.
Chief aka Maxx Load

Was there an asterisk saying the smoke and fire coming out of the barrel might obscure the target and light the grass on fire or anything like that? :shock: :shock: :mrgreen:

I agree. I don't think it is a good idea to download with 2400 in the 44 mag. 10 grains might be a misprint. Sometimes it does not burn completely even with much heavier loadings. I think hangfires, possible squibs or even detonations could be a possibility with load densities that low with a med-slow burning powder like 2400.

captainkirk

 

[Chief 101]

Like I said, I have never downloaded 2400 in straightwall pistol cartridges just quoting the Lyman manual. I have used small amounts in 30/30 rifle with great success tho. have either of you tried this, I don't know where your info comes from, hopefully you did the testing. Chief aka Maxx Load

 

[captainkirk]

Like I said, I have never downloaded 2400 in straightwall pistol cartridges just quoting the Lyman manual. I have used small amounts in 30/30 rifle with great success tho. have either of you tried this, I don't know where your info comes from, hopefully you did the testing. Chief aka Maxx Load

Chief, this is no dig against you. I almost mentioned using reduced 2400 loads in bottleneck cartridges vs straight wall in my first post. I have used it in loads for an old Spanish mauser with cast bullets with good success as well, just not in straight wall cases. My only Lyman manuals are old (Hercules, not Alliant 2400) and they list 12.0 grains(min.) of 2400 for the 240 jacketed and 12.5(min.) for the 245 cast in the 44 special. The reduction to 10 grains for the same ctg and bullet seems in line with reductions for other loads for the "new" 2400.

edited for clarity

Had I read your post thoroughly the first time, I would not have had an issue with it. For some reason I thought it was the 44 mag.

captainkirk