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I just saw an ad for learning foreign languages. After a moment of thought, this came to me.
I see no reason not to establish English as the only acceptable language spoken in this country.
 
Mobuck said:
I just saw an ad for learning foreign languages. After a moment of thought, this came to me.
I see no reason not to establish English as the only acceptable language spoken in this country.


only useful if you intend to visit those countries.....
 
Learning languages is fine, and a useful skill to have. But it is crazy what has happened in this country where at one time it was so obvious that English was the "official" language that no one really questioned it. But because there is no legal requirement to conduct any and all public business in English, it is not really "official". I understand that in CA, various government documents are available in over 100 languages. I think it is totally absurd that someone can get a driver's license, register to vote, and who knows, maybe serve on a jury all without the ability to understand and speak English. I know of a case in Florida where a government employed Social Worker lost her job because she only speaks English, and the State determined that with so many Spanish speaking "clients" who speak no English in their care, this Social Worker was no longer qualified to keep her American job.

There has been a political movement for decades to try to get legislation, or ideally a Constitutional amendment, declaring English the official language of the USA and mandating that any and all public business be strictly limited to English, including ballots, etc. I know that when I lived in Germany in the late 1970's, while I could use my American driver's license, I inquired about getting a German license as well. I never pursued it because of several reasons, but the primary one was that I would have had to know a lot more than the minimal German than I knew at the time (and currently remember almost none of what I did know then). But the "English as our official language" movement has never made much progress and in today's political climate would never pass Congress. And I would not be surprised with the twisted thinking that seems to have infected the Supreme Court, that if a law making English was passed that they would not declare it unconstitutional.
 
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Then there is that old joke about a person who speaks two languages is “bi-lingual” and three languages is a “polyglot” and one language? American. I think Switzerland has 5 official languages.

Education is important. And learning another language helps expand a persons horizon and opens them up to more enlightened ideas. Both math and music come to mind when I think of foreign languages. They are very similar.

My daughters school system starts teaching Spanish in first grade. She has a friend and they started Latin in 3rd grade.

Sure won’t hurt.
 
keeping one language was suppose to make countries unique.
if everywhere I go is like the last place I left....why travel and why learn the language.
if I have it here, and using it there makes everywhere common.
besides, I want the invaders to be confused if we are invaded.
back in the 50's and 60's when metric was being considered the standard in usa, many warned it was a invasion ploy by getting everything set up here for the foreigners to have in place to have parts on the hoof.
to this day I know people in my generation that hate anything japanese.
now its china.
heck everyone is here except us.
 
Back in the 70's the local university drew a considerable number of Asian types. At the time I had a well developed(and as far as I was concerned, a well deserved) aversion to hearing that sort of chattering and quite often accosted anyone heard using such language. While such "harassment" would be unacceptable (or even illegal) now, a few decades back I often confronted people speaking their native gibberish in public.
This is just another item on the list of "forced acceptance" by current political agendas.
 
Kevin said:
Education is important. And learning another language helps expand a
persons horizon and opens them up to more enlightened ideas. Both math and
music come to mind when I think of foreign languages. They are very similar.
Well . . . . think about another portion.
There is English,
New York English,
New England English,
Dakota/MN English (ya sure),
Down South English
CA English,
Snowflake English (it's like, well you know, like well, like somethin),
and slave speak.

I'll bet that most of us can at least understand five of those. :roll:
 
I'm still not quite sure what a snowflake is. I see it used as a derogatory term. But not sure who it's aimed at.

When I first met my wife, she didn't speak any English. When we first moved to the States, we moved to Boise, Idaho. We've lived in 5 different states, but ONLY in Idaho, people took offense at her accent. They tried to do it pretty rudely too. In fact, just recently we saw some people from Idaho, and they commented on her accent, after living here in the States for 20 years. They said they couldn't understand her. Some people...

Nobody in Texas has ever said anything about her accent.

Oh, and Pat:
You forgot "New Joise" English. Living there, if you got off the beaten path, it was like another world altogether. Some sort of Italian something-or-other.
 
My ex-wife (with a PhD in creative writing) is of the opinion that authors who learn English as a second language produce better prose, as they have had to seriously study the language. And Spanish majors in college learn more grammatically correct Spanish than what is spoken by the average border-jumper, while improving their grasp of the English language.
 
Kevin said:
Oh, and Pat:
You forgot "New Joise" English. Living there, if you got off the beaten path, it was
like another world altogether. Some sort of Italian something-or-other.
I thought about that but figgererd[sic] it was close enough to NY that most would be
able to handle that. :wink:

Snowflake is a hybrid of CA, NY, NJ, and several others, that has words added
that are (no matter where inserted) out of context and replace the old "ahhhhh",
with the addition of over-adjective-itus. :roll: . :roll: . :roll:

:D
 
I only speak two languages: English and Texan! My husband can speak four, five counting Texan. It is interesting when you read about those in Europe commenting about Americans only speaking English but they do miss the point. In the US, perhaps Kansas you drive 500 miles in any direction and you are still in a primarily English speaking country while in Europe someone living in Germany or France travels the same distance they may have passed through a country or two where different languages are spoken, it is almost a must if not for tourists or business to know multiple languages.
 
Mobuck said:
I just saw an ad for learning foreign languages. After a moment of thought, this came to me.
I see no reason not to establish English as the only acceptable language spoken in this country.

Si, !!!!! :lol:

Sorry...

Technically there is a bit of a difference between Dakotan, and Minnesotan.... If I may correct....... Minnesotan is.....
It is Yawh... sure you betcha........ Or..... Yawh fer sure you betcha......
Not that I am nit picking or anything!!... :wink: Being a true Minnesotan I am often called upon to correct errors!
At a party a few years back, another Minnesota transplant and I started talking Minnesotan, laying the accent on pretty thick... everyone really got a kick out of it...

I don't mind a "thick" american english accent.... It shows me they get it... I think most of us are old enough to have had a lot of people from our home towns who spoke english, with heavy accents from their home countries.... It was just the way it was. My next door neighbors growing up emigrated from Germany after WW1..... I loved the way they spoke.. they were American through and through... and they were the salt of the earth people...
 
So, everyone wants things to be how the founding fathers intended them to be right?

Well... It isn't the official language because they didn't want it to be.

In 1780, John Adam’s proposed to the Continental Congress that English be made the official language. It never made it off the floor. At the time, not only did the colonists have diverse native languages, but they also commonly spoke multiple languages, so picking just one language of the many spoken wasn’t a popular idea or even particularly necessary.

A good majority of the FF spoke multiple languages with people such as Thomas Jefferson encouraging setting up universities to teach multiple languages.
 
Mobuck said:
Back in the 70's the local university drew a considerable number of Asian types. At the time I had a well developed(and as far as I was concerned, a well deserved) aversion to hearing that sort of chattering and quite often accosted anyone heard using such language. While such "harassment" would be unacceptable (or even illegal) now, a few decades back I often confronted people speaking their native gibberish in public.
This is just another item on the list of "forced acceptance" by current political agendas.
Good grief man, we all came from somewhere else and it took generations for us to learn American.
 
Mobuck said:
Back in the 70's the local university drew a considerable number of Asian types. At the time I had a well developed(and as far as I was concerned, a well deserved) aversion to hearing that sort of chattering and quite often accosted anyone heard using such language. While such "harassment" would be unacceptable (or even illegal) now, a few decades back I often confronted people speaking their native gibberish in public.
This is just another item on the list of "forced acceptance" by current political agendas.
The sad part is that you say it like your proud of yourself. Which I'm sure you are. The even sadder part is you don't realize why that's a bad thing.

May I ask why you had a "well deserved" aversion to that?
 
Why are ballots printed in so many languages? You have to be a citizen to vote. If you were born here English should be your first language. If you became a naturalized citizen part of the requirement is that you read and understand English.
 
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