Gun shows dying?

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Gun Shows Fading Into History? Why Some Believe Their Best Days Are Over​


Walk into a regional gun show today and you’ll feel it: the energy isn’t what it used to be. Between online marketplaces, changing laws, and a generational shift in how people buy and sell, many longtime attendees wonder if the classic gun-show model is running out of gas. Yet the obituary feels premature. The truth is more complicated – and frankly, more interesting – than a simple “dead or alive.”

At its core, a gun show is a pop-up marketplace. A promoter rents a convention hall or fairground, charges vendors for tables, and opens the doors to the public (usually for a modest entry fee). Inside you’ll find a strange and wonderful bazaar: licensed dealers with racks of new pistols and ARs, private sellers moving parts of an estate, ammo wholesalers stacking cases to the ceiling, and collectors hawking bayonets, uniforms, web gear, and oddities you didn’t know existed.

It’s no secret that the biggest pressure on shows is the web. A decade ago, if you wanted a specific variant of a surplus rifle or a particular optic, the show was where you found it. Now a keyword search can turn up twenty examples before your coffee cools. That convenience slashes foot traffic – and with fewer buyers, vendors raise prices to cover travel and table costs, which further depresses demand. It’s a feedback loop.

And yet, online shopping can’t replicate what collectors love most: the thrill of discovery. You don’t “stumble” across a Persian Mauser or a Finnish M39 on a search page – you stumble across it in person, under bad fluorescent lights, when a guy in a ballcap slides a battered case across the table and says, “Take a look.”


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gun shows died 25 years ago in my opinion.
purpose of a gun show was to offer deals to people too far from their storefront.
instead, gun dealers jacked prices because it was a gun show knowing it would be a 'take it or leave it' purchase for those who couldnt travel to those stores.
then, when it looked like dealers were making good money, the show promoters jacked table fees to rake in some of the booty.
then they clamped down on tailgate sales in parking lots.
if they went away totally, it wouldnt hurt me in the least.
rack up a win for the lefties.
 
When I go to gun shows I notice that the majority of people there are about my age...70. When my generation is dead who will go to gun shows? Actually any where I go where most people are White, most people are my age. When White people are a tiny minority in 10 or 15 years, who will support gun rights?
 
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Gun shows have been dead to me for over a decade. Over-priced guns and a lot of crap that has nothing to do with guns.

Also, an admission charge to enter a place where you are going shopping? A place where discounts are few and far between?

I have better things to do with my time 🤷‍♂️
 
...Where else can you buy axe handles, purses, candied almonds, 72" belts, coins, lamps, books on how to over throw the govt, and peepaw's old shotgun under one roof???

...not to mention, a sealed pound of IMR 4227 for $20, a sealed pound of Varget for $18 (plus another half pound+ for $10), and a like-new Lee .38 Special "Speed Die" for $10 (to complete the collection ;^)! All of those came home with me - no shipping, no HAZMAT fee, no sales tax. I skipped a pound of Accurate #9 and a couple of jars of Universal (all new/sealed, at $18 per pound), because I'm fairly well stocked with pistol powders. That was just 2 days ago at our local gun show...
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I can’t stand gun shows. All the loud mouth know it alls who stand around and talk about how they know all the answers mixed in with the tacti-cool crowd. Yuck.

And as mentioned, why is there a cover charge?

However, I would like to go to Tulsa sometime just to see it for an hour.
 
Of course not!

Where else can you buy axe handles, purses, candied almonds, 72" belts, coins, lamps, books on how to over throw the govt, and peepaw's old shotgun under one roof???
The last time I went to a show was only to pick up a bottle of ghost pepper sauce as payback on a prank on a long time buddy. It was certainly worth it for me, him not so much.
 
I go to gun shows here in Alaska because I can and to show my support for the 2nd Amendment. I figure if I don't go, one of these days there may not be any gun shows left to attend.
Shows here are sponsored by various groups - the Lions Club, the local Youth Shooting Sports group, Alaska Gun Collectors Assn, the High School Hockey Booster Clubs. etc so I don't mind the entry fee when it's going
to a worthy group.
There are quite a few new guns with "window sticker" prices that I'm not interested in so I pass those by. I also walk on by the "flea market" folks (but they do pay the same price for their tables as the gun folks).
It does seem that bargains are harder to find than in the past but I usually manage to score a deal every now and then. I can usually find some reloading stuff that I can use.
I've met many of the dealers over the last 30 plus years so I enjoy the chance to visit.
Alaskans say "we don't care how they do it "Outside". We even have a gun show in the Wasilla High School - and it's always a good one.
 
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Tulsa is the largest gun show there is, eleven acres under one roof, 4200 tables. They say if you walk it in 8 hours you can only spend 19 seconds at each table. Have to be focused on what you are looking for. Come check it out.

About 40-50 years ago, when I was working out in California, they had a big gun show out in Pomona (IIRC). It was popular; I remember standing in long lines just to get in (one time with a friend who was carrying a Bushmaster arm pistol, hoping to sell it at the show ;^). You really needed a couple of days to see everything, which was kind of fun if you had the time, because prices tended to drop Sunday afternoon! Still kicking myself for not buying a .30-40 Model 1895 Winchester late one Sunday, that was half the price it had been the day before, because the owner didn't want to take it home (I was young & clueless ;^). Unfortunately, I heard the crazy left-wing politicians out there killed that show off, years ago...
 
When I go to gun shows I notice that the majority of people there are about my age...70. When my generation is dead who will go to gun shows? Actually any where I go where most people are White, most people are my age. When White people are a tiny minority in 10 or 15 years, who will support gun rights?
And when I go the 70 year olds don't talk to me.
And as mentioned, why is there a cover charge?
Renting the venue is not free and the cost to cover it can't come from vendors because it would be so high no vendors would show up.
It's still nice to find reloading at reasonable prices (sometimes) and old parts
Local show has almost no plastic guns, just really old and really expensive stuff that is 50% over true value offered by people really don't want to sell. They are collectors and the only way to show off their stuff is to pretend it's for sale by attending shows.
They are in these parts. Few and far between, way overcrowded, very little of interest to most and not worth time, money, effort. I haven’t been to one here in about 3 years.
No overcrowding here. It's been since the first Obama term since I have seen a crowded show but it depends on where you go. In DFW proper the show venues are big enough they don't seem crowded even though attendance is high. In the suburbs it can get crowded. Plano and Lewisville come to mind. But the Lewisville show that used to be crowded and a good show to attend as recently as 2020 is no more and Plano is way too far for me to drive. Small town shows are barely attended.

FWIW, I also quit going to the flea markets for the same reason (plus the possibility of buying something stolen the night before).
Used to attend Bowie Trade Days to look at the 2-3 tables out of 100's that had guns. Even rented an outdoor stall a few times and brought tables, carpet remnants, and a shade canopy. Made out well a few times. Haven't been in years.
 
Gun shows can all be good or bad. It's about the attitudes involved.
Spaces that can house a gun show cost money. Promotion costs money. So the ones who put on the shows have to charge the vendors and attendees to cover these expenses AND make a profit to make it worthwhile for them to do all that work putting it together. As a person who has had to organize big events i speak from a bit of experience.
Then the vendors.
They too have expenses. Travel, inventory, motels & meals etc. To make it worthwhile for them, they always try to buy stuff "cheap" to allow themselves the ability to pay expenses & make a little money.
Again,, I've also been a vendor at many gun shows.

Attendees. Sit behind a table as a vendor & watch the people. Tire kickers who finger-fumble all kinds of guns they can't afford. Or the unruly kids who grab a minty collectable gun & try & work the action. The bored wives/girlfriends stumbling along.

But step back & ask yourself. "What if they did go away?" We ALL,, as gun owners lose. Chalk up a victory for the anti-gun crowd.

Some shows are really good. Some are glorified flea markets. Go to an OGCA show & smile at the fact it's a real gun show. While I've never been to Tulsa,, it too carries a good reputation.

But local smaller gun shows can often offer deals.
How about an OM Single-Six with a set of factory stags,, for under $600? Found it a few months ago at a small show. Or the Single-Six stainless .22 cylinder for $15.00. Again,, recent finds.

Just like ANY and I mean ANY shopping,, you have to be educated about the product, and know the values. Gun show sellers can be just as bad as any used car salesman,, or just honest folks who learned long ago to be honest & fair. (These latter guys are usually long time gun show sellers.)

Go anywhere, do anything,, and it'll cost you more than the price of admission to a gun show & you can often have more fun at a gun show.
Have they really changed?
Yes,, some promoters allow just about any junk sellers in,, while others work hard at promoting a real gun show.
There are always sellers who over price their stuff, and then there are the sellers who fail to know what they really have & a deal can be had.

Just be glad we live in a Country where we can have a gun show!
 
Been 17 years since I last went to a gun show. Just became too tired of rude people, prices higher than the local shop and Cabela's, and seeing nothing that interested me. From what I hear the situation has not improved and it seems like every seller has an internet pricing on firearms -- even the junk, beat up, missing parts, etc., guns.
 
Last show I attended had one good dealer as far as I was concerned. At one table the person behind the table asked could he could help me? I told him I was just looking. He asked: "What for?". I said: "a two digit serial number Bearcat." He answered:"I might have one at the shop." I figured if he had one, he damn sure would have been displaying it with a price tag attached. I was gone. The rest of the 'show' was a flea market.
 
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I worked the gunshows around the Houston area for almost 20 years...The old SAXET (monthly) show in Spring, every one that SAXET did at the Conroe Convention Center including the first-ever, a couple at George R Brown, 4 or 5 in Humble, and even set up over off of Red Bluff Road twice...Seen a lot of changes through all of that, mostly for the bad. But the thing that finally got me was when the State of Texas decided that I would have to start collecting sales tax on everything I sold even though everything I sold (or traded) was used and had already been taxed once. To my way of thinking, taxing the same thing twice would have been like me stealing from folks, so I never worked another show after that....As far as I can remember, I never visited a gunshow after that either. That was over 15 years ago, and I can't say that I miss it much.

DGW
 
I still go to the gun shows when it’s convenient for me and have time. I usually bring one of the grandsons and we just browse through tables. Look to see what’s there. You never can tell what you’ll find. And the gun shows around here are about 50% flea market or Selling AR parts. I figured eight bucks a person I pay to get in, It’s worth it for an afternoon entertainment, just by walking around looking and seeing things and I’ll run into a friend every so often as well. And I’ve bought guns there, including a 10/22 I couldn’t find it in the shops and the two Vaqueros I posted pictures of recently. I had bought a ring for my wife about 10 years ago and also earrings for my granddaughter.
 
As many others have already said I quit going to gun shows about 15 years ago for the same reasons stated. They used to be something I looked forward to.
 
I said: "a two digit serial number Bearcat." He answered:"I might have one at the shop."

Probably didn't know what a Bearcat is. He may have thought that you were looking for a basketball player from Cincinnati.

About fifteen years ago a big bunch of P-38s and P-1s came into the country. I went to what had been my favorite gun shop only to discover that the owner had retired and sold it. So I asked the new owner if he had any of the surplus P-38s that had been recently imported. He had no idea was a P-38 was.
 
A lot of the comments on this thread are pretty similar to opinions I've seen recently about GunBroker - "I stopped going because I couldn't find anything I wanted at a reasonable price!" Which I guess raises a question: "What are you looking for?"

FWIW, I used to collect antique (pre-1899) Mausers. If I went on GunBroker, or to gun shows, looking only for antique Mausers in good condition and at reasonable prices, I would be disappointed 98% of the time (you hardly ever see them anymore, at any price). So, I can sympathize with folks who say they don't ever find anything interesting.

But I also think it's a mistake to just focus on one thing. When I went to the local gun show last Saturday, I was actually looking for 40 caliber bullets (nice to not pay shipping on odd shaped boxes that weigh a ton ;^). I didn't find any bullets (or any antique Mausers, or any Cav Arms polymer lowers, or any Blackhawk convertible cylinders, or any cheap factory pistol boxes, or any AK oilers/grips/blank adapters, etc., etc., etc.), but I looked at what the show DID have, and found some great deals on propellant, and a set of dies I had forgotten I was looking for! And the same approach works for me on GunBroker.

So I love going to gun shows - even the tiny charity shows at the VFW are fun, just because it's nice to look things over and talk to people (and the last time around I ALMOST bought a couple of quality pistol mags that were under-valued, but that's dangerous for me, because then I would want to buy a gun they would fit ;^)!
:-)
 
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I’ve stopped going to local gun shows (Washington State). I would love to attend some; in particular, Ruger oriented shows. Aren’t there some in Idaho? Or elsewhere; I may need to roadtrip to find shows worth going to. Help?
 

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