GP 100 accuracy

jim8115

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Just bought a new GP 100 6" stainless.357 .......Really impressed with overall fit/feel/trigger, etc...But it doesnt seem all that accurate. My smith model 67 4" can easily outshoot it.......any comments/suggestions?
 
Have gotten 1!/4" groups at 15yds with mine with reloads, standing. Try some different ammo, the single action triggers on the rugers aren't as good as the smiths, IMO, may take some getting use to. Hotter loads seem to shoot better in my 357's.
 
So do some don't. It is much the same with most revolvers. That is why the custom makers line bore the cylinders to the bore, The major manufacturers don't take those pains.
 
I would look at everything else but the gun itself, If there's one thing the GP's usually excel at is accuracy.
Jeff Quinn at GunBlast just stuck a 3" GP100 in a Ramson Rest and it shot a sub 1/2 group at 25 yards with the right ammo.
http://www.rugerforum.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=124884
Sal
 
'Break-in' the gun and bore with about 500 jacketed rounds and then check accuracy again. As mentioned a spring job can make a big difference as well as smoothing the action up. Those guns are usually very accurate. If you continue to have accuracy problems you might need to call Ruger for service. 8) 8)

...Jimbo
 
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Did you try various shooting styles? For example double action vs single action, for an accuracy comparison? What about having someone else shoot it? I'm sure you know your way around pistols, I'm just thinking about the different sights on the Ruger vs. the Smith you mentioned.
 
By the way welcome to the forum. I joined when I bought a GP100 also. I just wanted to read about it. This site is addictive though, there have been many Ruger revolvers since.
 
jim8115 said:
Just bought a new GP 100 6" stainless.357 .......Really impressed with overall fit/feel/trigger, etc...But it doesnt seem all that accurate. My smith model 67 4" can easily outshoot it.......any comments/suggestions?

Welcome to the forum.

Not sure what you mean by "outshoot it" I'd need a better description of what you are seeing.

I have a GP100 4". It is a very consistent shooter and when I do the aiming part it's pretty darn accurate.
 
Good idea to have a friend whos a good shot try it, that'll narrow it down quick. I have a friend whom I use as a ransom rest. If I buy something new and want to see what it can do I hand it to him. I've found most guns shoot at least pretty good and most quality guns shoot really well.
 
On some model, the rear sight is adjustable for windage and elevation. It may be sighted in for a different load. Take it to the range with your favorite carry ammo and tweak it!
 
greener said:
jim8115 said:
Just bought a new GP 100 6" stainless.357 .......Really impressed with overall fit/feel/trigger, etc...But it doesnt seem all that accurate. My smith model 67 4" can easily outshoot it.......any comments/suggestions?

Welcome to the forum.

Not sure what you mean by "outshoot it" I'd need a better description of what you are seeing.

I have a GP100 4". It is a very consistent shooter and when I do the aiming part it's pretty darn accurate.

By outshoot, I mean with the 4" model 67, I can shoot groups with all shots touching, or almost touching, right on target from 25 feet...with the ruger, my groups were probably 3 inches or more at the same distance
 
jim8115 said:
greener said:
jim8115 said:
Just bought a new GP 100 6" stainless.357 .......Really impressed with overall fit/feel/trigger, etc...But it doesnt seem all that accurate. My smith model 67 4" can easily outshoot it.......any comments/suggestions?

Welcome to the forum.

Not sure what you mean by "outshoot it" I'd need a better description of what you are seeing.

I have a GP100 4". It is a very consistent shooter and when I do the aiming part it's pretty darn accurate.

By outshoot, I mean with the 4" model 67, I can shoot groups with all shots touching, or almost touching, right on target from 25 feet...with the ruger, my groups were probably 3 inches or more at the same distance

I didn't ask if you were shooting it DA or SA. If you are shooting double action, the GP100 has a different trigger feel that will throw you off for a while. SA, only minor differences. Barring barrel, cylinder fit problems, I'd just shoot the GP for a while until you acclimate.

I did well immediately with the GP100. Single action was great but it did take me a while to get accustomed to the double action trigger. Now, I shoot it almost exclusively double action.
 
Very accurate for me. I usually have about a 2 inch hole after fifty or sixty shots at 50 feet standing. I am not even trying hard and I am not really that good. The gun makes me look better.
 
Mine shot so well my friend wants to get one now too. Dont know about the accuracy aprt. And this is brand new 6inch stainless with less than 100 rounds.
 
jim8115 said:
Just bought a new GP 100 6" stainless.357 .......Really impressed with overall fit/feel/trigger, etc...But it doesnt seem all that accurate. My smith model 67 4" can easily outshoot it.......any comments/suggestions?

I have an older 1/2 lug 6" GP100. It was shooting awful with 38 spec (Winchester and Rem bulk) - ~3" groups at 10 yards standing double action.


With 357 Mag, it was a different story altogether - ~1" (Winchester and Rem bulk packs again), and less than that with handloads.
 
Had very similar results today. .38 specials were not very good at 45 feet, but when I went to the .357 magnum Remingtons, it was a different story altogether. I managed a very consistant, and fairly tight group. (about 1.5 radius, or within a 3inch circle). When I moved the target out to the range maximum of 25 yards, I was still very pleased with 12 out of 12 shots in the black, center mass on a life size silhouette. I have a new 4" GP100, and this was my second time out with it. At 75 feet, and with my eyesight, the sights pretty much covered most of the target. I couldn't be happier with this gun.
 
Mine was so accurate that I decided to mount a scope on it and take it hunting.

GP-100a.jpg


And I an not talking about accuracy at 25 yds, but 50 to 100 yds.

I am reloading a 180 gr. XTP and using WC820 powder. this was at 50 yds:

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AS you can see, not too shabby!
 
I would rate my GP100 4 inch as good or better than my 686 4 inch. Ammo makes a big difference. I use a lot of CCI blazer 158 gr 357 magnum hollow points at the range. Both revolvers are accurate with this round with a slight edge to my GP100. Personally, I don't think there is a better double action for shooting 357 magnums than the GP100.
Regards,
Howard
 
It is to bad the search is not working I could direct you to the hundreds of posts just like yours. Welcome to the Forum. Please add some sort of location. It is a requirement.
Now:
Did you take the gun apart and clean it?
Did you while it was apart inspect it for metal shavings and inspect the working parts for burs?
Did you make sure the barrel is straight in the frame?
Did you make sure the cylinder throats are of correct diameter?
Did you made sure the sights are the correct width in the front a rear?
Did you inspect the forcing cone for uniformity?
Did you inspect the muzzle crown for uniformity?
Did you inspect the cylinder crane and cylinder lockup {using a range rod] for chamber uniformity to the barrel?
Did you properly lubricate the GP?
These are just a few of the steps a person can or should go through with a new GP IMHO. Ruger sometimes has QC problems as the guns are assembled. The man at the bench was not being hyper critical. He was being biased. The GP can be made to shoot very well it just dose not come from the factory the way a Smith dose. Then again the GP can be made into the shooters gun.

Please avoid chronic dry firing it is a myth that it will ease the DA weight on the spring. It will only destroy the guns timing, peening the leeds, cylinder over spin. Dry fire a normal firing cadence is OK for training. NO live ammo in the room you are dry firing in. I use snap caps and speed straps.
 
Sal1950 said:
If there's one thing the GP's usually excel at is accuracy.

I'd completely agree with that.

As someone above said, the triggers aren't as good as the Smiths, and that alone could cause hand-held groups to suffer.

REV
 
Jim,
I thought of this the other day. I am just getting around to setting down. The next time a helpful soul suggests you get a Smith when you are struggling with a problem at hand. You might say that Car-Bon Inc. tests, that is. TESTS it's batch ammo for QC and I understand their experimental stuff in a GP. Not a Smith.
 
Theres a forum member that hit a grougd squrril at 125yards with a 6" GP 100 after a 20 minuite ride on a 4 wheel atv and was still shaking from the ride .I won't mention his name ,but I complete believe him .A friend if mine had a .357 6"speed six or security six [ don't know the diffrence ]with a millet vent rib rail that had the front and rear sight all in one peice and it was the most accurate revolverI've ever shot /2" 5 shot groups off hand all day long .
Lou
 

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