Global Warmup

[Pierow]

Agree. Seems our mods have a hard time recognizing "personal attacks and insults", or just choose which rules to ignore these days.
The content of discussion suffers because of this.

To pierow's comment - I choose to listen to the US Navy meteorologists, who in my committees at least, all seem to poo-poo the idea that any global weather is caused by man.

Well there you have it. Great example of civil discourse Sam.

Pierow

 

[Bucks Owin]

THERE IS NO FREAKING GLOBAL WARMING!!!

Even the "scientists" who once participated in the hoax have fessed up!!! :shock:

There have been dozens of threads on this GW hoax with endless links disproving EGO357's whackospew...

Talk about a "bitter clinger", the ENEMY OF GUN OWNERS takes the cake! :roll:

 

[Bull Barrel]

I can state thereis no proof there is MMGW.
To prove it you must establish a benchmark and then provewhat would happen if the "offending" data was removed. Since the offending data is Man's activities how can we remove ourselves from the equation? We cannot prove what would happen if we were't on Earth, so we cannot demonstrate what the results would be.
All we have are computer models whbich are written to achieve a desired result.

 

[GunnyGene]

There is no "Proof", only calculated Probabilities (Statistics) and we all know that old saw about Statistics, right? Yet, the warmists insist on banging the Average drum. Average is a calculated statistic - formally known as one of several measures of central tendency - and in many instances is totally inappropriate for the distribution being studied.

 

[Jimbo357mag]

http://news.discovery.com/earth/global-warming/10-signs-climate-change-is-already-happening-130422.htm

quote> There is no real debate about whether climate change is occurring. The only dissent comes from the fringes, and generally from those whose research institutions or blogs are devoted, for ideological or other reasons, to attempting to debunk the notion that human activities are altering the planet's climate. <end quote

GLOBAL WARMING
10 Signs Climate Change Is Already Happening --------------- (read 'em and weep)

1. Carbon Dioxide Concentrations in the Atmosphere Are Increasing
2. The Hottest Decade on Record Keeps Changing
3. The Rate of Warming Is Unprecedented in at Least 11,000 Years
4. Arctic Sea Ice Is in a 'Death Spiral'
5. Greenland Is Losing Ice at an Accelerating Rate
6. Antarctic Peninsula Is Also Losing Ice at an Accelerating Rate
7. The Ocean Is Warming (ETA: Florida reefs are dying)
8. Sea Level Is Rising
9. The Planet Is Accumulating More Heat
10. Extreme Weather Is More ... Extreme

I could add 100+ other 'signs of global warming' if you'all want; like melting permafrost, collapsing ice caves, shrinking glaciers, disrupted animal migrations, etc.

 

[wolfsong]

...but you can't positively identify any supposed changes as man-made. That is where your position falls completely apart.

 

[Bucks Owin]

The ENEMY OF GUN OWNERS quotes Kieran Mulvaney

Besides being an ESPN boxing analysist, he is:

"Former ecology campaigner and anti-whaling activist, Greenpeace International; founder, the Whale and Dolphin Conservation Society; author, The Greenpeace Book of Dolphins"

THIS guy is the final word on global warming?!? :roll:

Keep downing the koolaid doubleshots ENEMY OF GUN OWNERS... :mrgreen:

 

[hittman]

When people ask me questions in a thread I try to answer them.

You seem to enjoy your standing here or surely you wouldn't participate. Liberals love martyrdom 'cause it draws attention to themselves. We're all here by choice.

You allow the ultra-conservatives here to drag you into these "debates". You don't have to participate.

The conservatives complain that you're allowed here, they're disgusted by your opinions, they're offended by your tone yet, ...... often they post something and then invite you to join the conversation.

Seems it's a win-win co-dependency for both the far-left and the far-right.

You've seen the threads with "......wonder what our resident libtards think about THIS......"

 

[Bull Barrel]

For one, I have never said jimbo shouldn't b here. Quite the opposte.
But, I always ask him what scientific data there is that global warming is man made and how was that data aquired? The only way is to conduct an actual experiment without Man in the equation.
It cannot be done, therefore all data is man made.

 

[Salmoneye]

Oh for the love of...

According to NOAA, those 'averages' are only for the last 30 years...This is on the recommendation of 'The World Meteorological Organization'...

Please just stop...

We have a most excellent average of temperatures for 30 years. This is your reason for no man made global warming? Are you saying that because our records are not as accurate from before 30 years ago that we don't know the reason for temperature increases today? Seriously? I can remember more than 30 years ago myself in South Florida. It used to freeze several days every winter and the Robins would come down here, guess what, - No More Freeze, no more Robins in South Florida. In almost every part of the country there are signs of constant and irreversible global warming and there is more extreme weather. The deniers should give it a rest especially when they act like science is ridiculous. There really is nothing on your side except opinion and foolish emotion.

I see the point went entirely over your bald little pate...

You are the one that was using the teevee weatherman averages as some sort of 'proof' of something...I simply showed that they are worthless in a discussion of global temps over eons of time...

The fact that YOU believe that YOUR experiences from more than 30 years ago are germane to the discussion tells me all I have to know about your critical thinking skills, and understanding of the subject...

 

[Bull Barrel]

The Germans aint got nothin to do with it!

 

[mohavesam]

This should be moved to the Political blather section...

 

[GunnyGene]

Not endorsing this article, but it makes at least as much sense as blaming people. I probably won't be around to find out who's right, but I'm glad I live in MS. :wink: By the way here's Prof. Zharkova, in case anyone doubts her qualifications. https://www.northumbria.ac.uk/about-us/our-staff/z/professor-valentina-zharkova/

The Earth could be headed for a 'mini ice age' researchers have warned.

A new study claims to have cracked predicting solar cycles - and says that between 2020 and 2030 solar cycles will cancel each other out.

This, they say, will lead to a phenomenon known as the 'Maunder minimum' - which has previously been known as a mini ice age when it hit between 1646 and 1715, even causing London's River Thames to freeze over.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3156594/Is-mini-ICE-AGE-way-Scientists-warn-sun-sleep-2020-cause-temperatures-plummet.html#ixzz3fXdIFZrk
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[opos]

San Diego year round weather forecast:

Morning marine layer with temps in the 70's
Noon clear and 80's
Evening with marine layer rolling back in temp in the 70's


Where I live...inland..

Morning marine layer with temps in the 70's
Noon clear with temps in the 90's
Evening with marine layer rolling back in temp in the 70's


Stormy season:

Rain event off and on all day..chance for showers 10%. Sig alerts for slippery conditions with as much as .0003 of an inch of drizzle..use extreme caution on the freeways for skidding tourists.

Really stormy season:

2 folding lawn chairs blew into the pool..cat got damp from hiding under a tree during the "mist storm"..2 lemons fell from the tree in the high winds...pictures at 11

 

[wolfsong]

This should be moved to the Political blather section...

Versus the usual blather in the Lounge?

 

[exavid]

I'd put more stock into the possibility that we might be facing another solar minimum. It's happened before and it will happen again. If it does we'll be in a worse position than we'd be from a few degrees of warming. Some warming won't cause starvation but a period of cold has and will again if it happens.

 

[jeffmb]

Man-Made global warming is the most blatant, transparent and pathetic attempt at government control ever devised. I'm amazed at the number of people who fall for it.

 

[Jimbo357mag]

Man-Made global warming is the most blatant, transparent and pathetic attempt at government control ever devised. I'm amazed at the number of people who fall for it.

Why didn't I think of that, another government conspiracy? :?
Exactly which government and who has organized it for what reason?
Maybe it is just a Red Herring to get the press off the real problems we face today.

 

[Bull Barrel]

Which government is wanting to tax us in the name of MMGW?
THAT government.

 

[BillyTee]

Weren't the dinosaurs completely wiped out?

Did man cause that too?

Stuff happens. Earth evolves and changes. Some winters we get tons of snow - others very little. Some summers are unseasonably warm, others unseasonably cool.

THAT'S why the loons need a brand name change from 'Global Warming' to 'Climate Change', which allowed them to blame all things on mankind's impact, regardless of the issue being discussed.

Too many hurricanes - Climate change!
Too few hurricanes - Climate change!
Too hot and arid in the summer - Climate change!
Too wet and cool in the summer - Climate change!

Tse Tse flies' genitalia shrinking - Climate change!

None of this is really about the environment - it's about the left needing a rationale for global income re-distribution.

+1
I wonder what made photosynthesis come to a screaming halt?