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farley

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Here in NW Missouri it's 64 degrees and raining. It's been raining almost every day since May 1. Can't get it to shut off.
 

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I'm still wearing shorts, I don't care what Bob says ! Ok, yeah, goofy July weather. Here to be 70's today and next. It is "normal" for temps to climb, then storm/rain, then drop, and climb again this time of year here.
 

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Hey Ed, which river are you on the side of ? The Grand River is my backyard, literally, here in Ashtabula county.
 

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Extreme weather is happening everywhere. Despite massive attempts to deny that global warming has anything to do with it, it really should be obvious to everyone. Something like a small change in the jet stream over the US can have a tremendous effect on the weather. :(

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extreme_weather
 

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Jimbo357mag said:
Extreme weather is happening everywhere. Despite massive attempts to deny that global warming has anything to do with it, it really should be obvious to everyone. Something like a small change in the jet stream over the US can have a tremendous effect on the weather. :(

+1. And it is 100% natural.

"Extreme weather" has occurred since the dawn of time. My BIL is/was a global meteorologist on a carrier, and I have a PhD colleague at NOAA in Boulder. These guys have the tools & records to provide tactical hemispherical weather solutions in three minutes or less. Both will tell you weather patterns are ever-changing and have been ever since weather has been recorded. Both will tell you there is nothing happening today (worldwide) that hasn't cycled every few years for eons.

Alarmists and the advent of 24-hr "news" reporting are the only things "new", and weather is still not caused by mankind. Cow flatulence or aliens are not changing weather either, for those leaning that way.

Weather is as weather does.
 

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Jimbo357mag said:
Extreme weather is happening everywhere. Despite massive attempts to deny that global warming has anything to do with it, it really should be obvious to everyone. Something like a small change in the jet stream over the US can have a tremendous effect on the weather. :(

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extreme_weather

You do realize weather has 'changed' since long before Man hit this rock, right?

You may want to look up the word 'hubris'...
 

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mohavesam said:
Jimbo357mag said:
Extreme weather is happening everywhere. Despite massive attempts to deny that global warming has anything to do with it, it really should be obvious to everyone. Something like a small change in the jet stream over the US can have a tremendous effect on the weather. :(

+1. And it is 100% natural.

"Extreme weather" has occurred since the dawn of time. My BIL is/was a global meteorologist on a carrier, and I have a PhD colleague at NOAA in Boulder. These guys have the tools & records to provide tactical hemispherical weather solutions in three minutes or less. Both will tell you weather patterns are ever-changing and have been ever since weather has been recorded. Both will tell you there is nothing happening today (worldwide) that hasn't cycled every few years for eons.

Alarmists and the advent of 24-hr "news" reporting are the only things "new", and weather is still not caused by mankind. Cow flatulence or aliens are not changing weather either, for those leaning that way.

Weather is as weather does.


The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.

H. L. Mencken
 

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Jimbo357mag said:
Extreme weather is happening everywhere. Despite massive attempts to deny that global warming has anything to do with it, it really should be obvious to everyone. Something like a small change in the jet stream over the US can have a tremendous effect on the weather. :(

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extreme_weather
EGO, please refer to Rule #3 ie no dead horse beating.
 
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It's not about the temp in July or even 2015... it is about the average temperature over 100 years..... our planet doesn't run on the same time scale that humans do. Things warm up... the big debate is whether we are adding to this.... there was a time on this planet when the Northern part of the U.S. had 2 miles of Ice over it.... that was a little on the cold side.... then there was another time when the beach was just below Columbia S.C.... figure out how much of the polar ice has to melt to bring the sea level up that far? These are natural cycles that will occur again.... the good news is we won't really have to worry about it... but future generations.... thousands of years away might... if we (humans) are still around. Now this is all just my opinion... but I do know one fact....
it is hot here in S.C.
 

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wolfsong said:
EGO, please refer to Rule #3 ie no dead horse beating.
If people are going to talk about Global Warming, I am going to add my 2 cents. That is not beating a dead horse ...and I always try and add something interesting. btw ...calling me EGO (enemy of gun owners) is a personal insult and should stop. :(

The way extreme weather works is this. If there are more weather 'events' that fall into the extreme 10% of weather for a certain region then you can say there are more extreme weather events in that region. More extreme weather events have been happening almost everywhere. A simple explanation is that more energy is being put into the system because of global warming. Draw your own conclusions. 8)
 

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Jimbo357mag said:
wolfsong said:
EGO, please refer to Rule #3 ie no dead horse beating.
If people are going to talk about Global Warming, I am going to add my 2 cents. That is not beating a dead horse ...and I always try and add something interesting. btw ...calling me EGO (enemy of gun owners) is a personal insult and should stop. :(

The way extreme weather works is this. If there are more weather 'events' that fall into the extreme 10% of weather for a certain region then you can say there are more extreme weather events in that region. More extreme weather events have been happening almost everywhere. A simple explanation is that more energy is being put into the system because of global warming. Draw your own conclusions. 8)

Brilliant, EGO. To put your model in plain terms, if you put in more than 10% of bigger marbles in the usual bag of small marbles, you can say there are more big marbles in the bag. Proving what?

Brilliant.
 

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There is no such thing as "normal" weather. You can average all readings and try to play that game, but it doesn't work.
 

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stevemb said:
There is no such thing as "normal" weather. You can average all readings and try to play that game, but it doesn't work.

To put it another way regarding "averages": Stick your head in a hot oven, and your feet in a bucket of ice, and then claim that: "on average, I'm pretty comfortable." :wink:
 
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