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mjpchief

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Seems like lately I have seen on several CSI shows there have been references to hunting rifles and hunting calibers. I kind of brushed it off for a while and then tonight on CSI New Orleans the shooter used a 30-30 caliber in probably a hunting rifle. Suspect was know to have had a valid hunting license for over 20 yrs.

Didn't think the liberals were going to go after our hunting firearms. Didn't they say that?

Just refered to the hunting license again on the show.
 
if you had watched last weeks episode of the regular NCIS you would understand the current slant of that programing.
 
There are so many CSI shows anymore it's getting out of hand and people actually believe that this stuff can be done. I guess I just watch more than I need to.

If they keep it up then people will begin to believe that even hunting rifles are evil and want the lefties to take them also.

Left side agendas I guess.
 
I always wonder how they determine the caliber of the weapon, be it a rifle OR a pistol, by simply looking at the bullet. I too saw that show last night and immediately said to the wife.."Damn they are really good to be able to tell the caliber of the gun from that bullet." I wonder just how many different cases have that very same bullet is loaded into it?
On Cheyenne yesterday a guy was shot and Cheyenne said the bullet was from a 45-70. Wasn't that same bullet used in anything else?
 
Like pin pointing where a shot came from.I guess the victim just stands there dead,til the can point that laser thingy.
 
TV, movies, media etc has a LONG history of portraying stuff as "facts" when it isn't true. Remember our early western movies with a sixgun that was never reloaded & fired 10-20 times? This stuff is just a modern version of similar attitudes from writers.
We too were watching the CSI program, and saw the glimpse of the bullet that supposedly came from that body & heard them proclaim it came from a 30-30. We also heard them discuss how the distance was over 500 ft, and only a serious hunter could make that shot. Miss Penny & I chuckled at the inaccuracies of their statements. She also cringed later when the guy called the magazine in a pistol a "clip." (That's one of Miss Penny's pet peeves.)

It's TV. It's movies. It's supposed to be entertainment. Did we walk out of the theaters after watching our favorite westerns complaining about the "never needing reloaded" sixgun? Nope, we went back to see the same stars & movies over & over again. It's just that now, writers have to try & be a little bit more believable in some stuff, so some of the blatantly obvious mistakes have been corrected, (usually). The CSI shows portray incredible science stuff that isn't actually available, but IS being studied & worked on. Or they show stuff that takes only 2 minutes, when in reality can take weeks to determine.

Are many shows on TV & in the movies anti-gun? Absolutely. Are many of the stars who use guns anti-gun? Yes. It's only when we as the consumer quit buying anything & the cost of doing business exceeds the income will anything change. But, as we all know, knowledgeable people in ALL aspects of EVERY item discussed in ANY entertainment venue are an extreme minority. I will admit I do not know every mistake in detail in every show I watch. As such, I accept the fact that I have knowledge in SOME of the stuff, but I'm a dummy in other areas.
Next look at the fact they deliver a show to the masses. And, as we all know, the masses do not know as much about firearms as those of us who enjoy firearms. I'm sure a lot of science nerds (no disrespect to anyone) can tear apart the science they portray. Or how about car chases where cars beat & bang into so many different things, yet, still manage to outrun the pursuers? We know cars usually get something broken pretty quickly in many small accidents, yet, we watch car chases for the fun of it.

My point is that there are so many different "facts" that are NEVER portrayed properly in the entertainment venue that it's a COMMON thing. Even the writers know they have stuff wrong, but they have to make the show entertaining & make the viewer want to watch. Just accept it for what it is, and fight against the ones who are so blatant in their attacks upon our freedoms.
 
contender said:
TV, movies, media etc has a LONG history of portraying stuff as "facts" when it isn't true. Remember our early western movies with a sixgun that was never reloaded & fired 10-20 times? This stuff is just a modern version of similar attitudes from writers.
We too were watching the CSI program, and saw the glimpse of the bullet that supposedly came from that body & heard them proclaim it came from a 30-30. We also heard them discuss how the distance was over 500 ft, and only a serious hunter could make that shot. Miss Penny & I chuckled at the inaccuracies of their statements. She also cringed later when the guy called the magazine in a pistol a "clip." (That's one of Miss Penny's pet peeves.)
I think the problem is that way back when we were much younger and didn't know the difference. Now we have been around for a few days and pick up on inaccuracies quickly and are much more critical than the unknowing viewer.
I also always wonder where the smoke if coming from when a Huey gets shot. Seems to always be coming from the back of the cargo door and the only thing there that can burn is the seat cover and the crew chief. Then they fly, doing up and down, right and left movements...forever it seems. I can assure you, from first hand experience, that if there is smoke coming out, of anywhere, ya get that sucker on the ground ASAP and get the devil away from it. I can also tell you that the little hand held fire extinguisher, that the aircraft is equipped with, doesn't last very long; if it works at all.
 
In certain subjects there certainly seems to be a consensus on TV, much of it in the form of liberal political correctness. I can't recall hunting ever portrayed positively, and those who hunt are usually shown as dangerous rednecks or just ignorant backwoods buffoons. But it certainly isn't limited to hunting and guns. TV shows are replete with intelligent, witty and caring homosexuals. Almost never is a gay person shown in a negative light. Religious Christians and to some extent religious Jews are usually evil folks using their religion as a cover for criminal or immoral behavior. This is all part of the left wing view of the world and for the most part such views dominate the entertainment industry.
 
I was watching a British mystery on PBS last week. The murder weapon was a 12ga. shotgun. They were able to tell which gun by the ballistics.
 
One of my favorite is when the bad guy whips out his revolver then procedes to screw the "silencer" onto the end of the barrel. This is usually done right before shooting someone without alerting anyone close by, even though they are indoors.
 
If you really want change, sit down and write a paper letter to each of the sponsors on that show. Concentrate. Tell them what and why you will buy from their competitors in a single line or maybe two. Re-read your letter to make sure you don't sound like a terrorist to the mailroom intern, and send it with a real paper stamp.

Repeat.

Otherwise, you can just do nothing and become a fatalist.
 
I get a kick out of the shows when somebody takes a look at a body in the street and says, "It looks like he was shot with a 9 mm", like a .38, .357 or even a .40 would look any different.
 
I find it interesting when they bring some gun or ammunition 'facts' into the story even if they aren't always correct. They do the same things with DNA and other crime scene stuff. It makes the show more interesting even if they aren't 100% realistic. They have advisors to help them get it mostly right but they aren't going to change the story to suite some tiny fact about firearms. Would I prefer if their gun stuff was correct? - Sure, but it is also fun to find the mistakes.

...and no I don't blame the liberals for it. It's just the movie/tv industry, made up of all kinds of people. ...and no I don't think it's some anti-gun conspiracy when they name something or when they mis-name something. I do suspect that many times they may be trying to show how horrendous getting shot really is.
 
Jimbo357mag said:
I find it interesting when they bring some gun or ammunition 'facts' into the story even if they aren't always correct. They do the same things with DNA and other crime scene stuff. It makes the show more interesting even if they aren't 100% realistic. They have advisors to help them get it mostly right but they aren't going to change the story to suite some tiny fact about firearms. Would I prefer if their gun stuff was correct? - Sure, but it is also fun to find the mistakes.

...and no I don't blame the liberals for it. It's just the movie/tv industry, made up of all kinds of people. ...and no I don't think it's some anti-gun conspiracy when they name something or when they mis-name something. I do suspect that many times they may be trying to show how horrendous getting shot really is.

You're probably right, Jimbo. Conspiracy implies pre-planned intent. This kind of thing in entertainment doesn't usually meet that standard. It's just idiots being idiots. :)
 
My all time favorite is when the neo marksman (markswoman usually) picks up a firearm, hits a flying target on the first shot and then claims it shoots low and to the left.

How Would They Know??? :? :?
 

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