Dija ever wonder?

caryc

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why when the robbers on horse back start chasing the stage coach, the stage driver always whips the horses into a gallop? Why don't they just stop? A stagecoach can't outrun men on horseback. The stage driver just runs until he gets shot. Then some guy climbs out the window and up to the drivers seat.

It's always the same. Did you ever see an episode when the stage outran the robbers on horseback? And why do the stupid robbers always wait until the stage gets way past them then start chasing it? They really didn't have their act together back in them days, did they?
 
Wow...........have you considered collecting stamps?
Maybe building model airplanes? A train set..................
Yeah that's it. Train sets are fun and interesting and keep your mind occupied.
You could model it in the late 1800's and way over in the corner have a stage
coach being robbed that didn't try to outrun the outlaws.
That would be fun................... :)
 
caryc said:
why when the robbers on horse back start chasing the stage coach, the stage driver always whips the horses into a gallop? Why don't they just stop? A stagecoach can't outrun men on horseback. The stage driver just runs until he gets shot. Then some guy climbs out the window and up to the drivers seat.

It's always the same. Did you ever see an episode when the stage outran the robbers on horseback? And why do the stupid robbers always wait until the stage gets way past them then start chasing it? They really didn't have their act together back in them days, did they?


Why? Because it's in the script - that's why! :mrgreen:
 
Cary, how else was Yakima Canutt supposed to make a living if he wasn't climbing around on, or being dragged by, a stagecoach?
 
coach said:
Did you ever wonder why they didn't just shoot a horse to stop the stage. A lot bigger target than the driver.

Hard to hit one of the horses when you were asleep and let the stage pass you by and are now chasing it from behind. :roll: :roll: :roll:

Besides, the PETA people wouldn't let them do that even back then. They hung you for stealing a horse. What would they do to you for shooting one?
 
Between this and your post about the LongBranch, I get the impression that you're just complaining about Hollywood being Hollywood. :roll:
 
GunnyGene said:
Between this and your post about the LongBranch, I get the impression that you're just complaining about Hollywood being Hollywood. :roll:

Not complaining actually. They have no affect on my life whatsoever. Just musing, more or less. :mrgreen:
 
mhblaw said:
Cary, please start making grips again.

Right now, I have two tractors that I have to get mechanically repaired and running again. I just don't have time for grip making. Winter is coming, I need those tractors up and running.
 
Cary, My mother was from a small town in West Texas. Later on her father worked the oil fields but when she was small he was a working cowboy. You should have heard how she fussed when the western movies were on. A "real cowboy" wouldn't do this & wouldn't do that. When she called someone a dude it was not a compliment. The spaghetti westerns sat her off the most. With that said as someone else said. Hollywood is Hollywood & has nothing at all to do with reality.
 
Whilst on the trail for wondering.........why do the shooters on horseback look like they are trying to throw the bullet out of the barrel of their revolvers when firing at their foes?
 
cas said:
Six horse power > one horse power.

But they're pulling a stagecoach. Besides, the fastest horse can only go at the speed of the slowest or most tired horse since they're all hitched together.
 
Tom W said:
Whilst on the trail for wondering.........why do the shooters on horseback look like they are trying to throw the bullet out of the barrel of their revolvers when firing at their foes?

I think the bullets come out faster that way. :wink:
 
caryc said:
Tom W said:
Whilst on the trail for wondering.........why do the shooters on horseback look like they are trying to throw the bullet out of the barrel of their revolvers when firing at their foes?

I think the bullets come out faster that way. :wink:

That's the only logical explanation! :D
 
Tom W said:
Whilst on the trail for wondering.........why do the shooters on horseback look like they are trying to throw the bullet out of the barrel of their revolvers when firing at their foes?
I think that's Hollywood's way of exaggerating gun use like today's shows that have any gun drawn make all kind of clicks and mechanical noises whenever they are drawn. Probably a carry over from cocking single actions in cowboy movies.
 
Maybe the bad guys learned a lesson from an actual Stage Coach Robbery attempt in Colorado. Back in the late 1800's, there was an actual Stage Coach robbery that went bad in Gunnison County.

The Stage Coach came over Marshall Pass from Poncha Springs. At the top of the pass the driver stopped to rest the horses and place an Aspen pole though the rear wheels to hold the Coach back from running over the horses on the steep down grade to bottom of the pass. Even with the rear wheels skidding, the horses were forced to keep going down the steepest grade since the coach was pushing them.

As they came down the pass, a local Cowboy who thought he was a bad man, put a bandana over his face, waited for the coach while he sat on the side of the road. As the coach approched, the Cowboy jumped out onto the road in front of the coach, waving his six shooter in the air, and shouted 'Holdup" for the driver to stop.

The driver hauled on the lines but the grade was so steep that the horses could not stop the coach. The four horse hitch and the coach ran over the Cowboy and the driver was not able to stop the coach for quite a distance.

When the coach finally stopped, the pasengers walked back up the pass, found the Cowboy injured and laying in the road. They carried him down to the coach, placed him inside, and the driver drove on to Gunnison where the Cowboy was taken to the hospital.

This is the only recorded Stage Coach Holdup in Colorado History. I have driven over the dirt-gravel Marchall Pass many times in my 4WD truck. It is still too steep to stop a Stage Coach pulled by horses on the West side.
 
I'd love to know where they all got those Colt SAAs with the hi-cap magazines that let them throw so much lead without reloading.
 
Speaking of movies and TV:

Why do the cowboys trudging across the desert always throw their canteen away when it is empty? Do they plan to live at the next watering hole permanently? Or will they just call Canteens-R-Us and have UPS deliver another one?

It must have been a lot of work for an indian to make arrows, what with flint-knapping, truing shafts, catching birds for fletching, making glue and rawhide bindings, etc. So why, after a massacre at an obscure farm, do they just leave them sticking in the doorframe and fence posts?
 
RonSwanson said:
Speaking of movies and TV:

Why do the cowboys trudging across the desert always throw their canteen away when it is empty? Do they plan to live at the next watering hole permanently? Or will they just call Canteens-R-Us and have UPS deliver another one?

It must have been a lot of work for an indian to make arrows, what with flint-knapping, truing shafts, catching birds for fletching, making glue and rawhide bindings, etc. So why, after a massacre at an obscure farm, do they just leave them sticking in the doorframe and fence posts?

Because they know the desert is littered with other empty canteens from all the other cowboys trudging across the desert and throwing their canteens away.
 
caryc said:
RonSwanson said:
Speaking of movies and TV:

Why do the cowboys trudging across the desert always throw their canteen away when it is empty? Do they plan to live at the next watering hole permanently? Or will they just call Canteens-R-Us and have UPS deliver another one?

It must have been a lot of work for an indian to make arrows, what with flint-knapping, truing shafts, catching birds for fletching, making glue and rawhide bindings, etc. So why, after a massacre at an obscure farm, do they just leave them sticking in the doorframe and fence posts?

Because they know the desert is littered with other empty canteens from all the other cowboys trudging across the desert and throwing their canteens away.

And then there's those movies where the same bunch of bad guys get killed multiple times. :roll:
 
coach said:
Did you ever wonder why they didn't just shoot a horse to stop the stage. A lot bigger target than the driver.

My thoughts exactly. Shoot a horse (one reason for the .45 colt was to shoot cavalry horses) everything piles up. No need to worry about passengers putting up any resistance when they are dead or seriously wounded. Just pick through the wreckage and take what you want.

The again, I wondered why they chase a train with a horse. Tear up one section of rail and everything comes off the track. Same deal, crew and passengers in no condition to resist.
 
All of those canteens probably pile up with all the shovels that are always on the scene where the Marshall finds a dead body. The dead body can be 40 miles from the nearest town or ranch but there is always a shovel there to bury the poor guy.
 
Rancher Will said:
All of those canteens probably pile up with all the shovels that are always on the scene where the Marshall finds a dead body. The dead body can be 40 miles from the nearest town or ranch but there is always a shovel there to bury the poor guy.

Did you ever wonder why you never see a regular long handled shovel in those westerns? All they ever had was shovels with what looked like a three or four foot handle that had a "T" grip on the end. Good for digging fox holes during Indian raids I guess.
 
Kinda always bugged me was the cocking Glocks,to emphasize their intent while holding it to someones head.
 
Then we have a gazillion Indians attacking a wagon train, which has formed a circle. Inside the circle are these LARGE horses...that never get shot, however the guy laying on his belly under the wagon gets hit.

All the Indians have lever action guns. Lots of them are killed. They retreat. Why doesn't anyone go out there and collect the guns the dead Indians now won't need?

A cowboy is riding across the plains and stops for the night. Suddenly he has a coffee pot, a frying pan, coffee, beans, bacon, and a plate. When he was riding his saddlebags were flat. Where did all the 'stuff' come from?

How come Gene Autry's hat never comes off in a fight?
 
My father grew up in a small rural town that didn't have a movie house. After much begging, my grandfather took him and his kid brother to the "big town" to see a movie. It was a western. When they walked out, my grandfather ranted all the way home about the cowboys not knowing how to ride a horse, the wagon drivers not knowing how to handle a team, etc. He never went back to watch another movie.
 

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