Colt Trooper or GP 100... Help!

Big Stu

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I currently have a new 4" SS GP 100 and I really like it a lot, but a good friend asked me if I wanted to make a trade for his Colt Trooper 4" nickle finish. Both guns are in fine condition and I'd bet I have more rounds fired through the GP 100 than his Colt. The single action on the Colt was much better then the GP100 but the double action on the Ruger was better than the Trooper. Since I shoot much more single action, that is a big plus. The Trooper felt lighter and not as well balanced as the GP. How will the Colt hold up to the .357 Magnum loads. We know the Ruger will eat them up all day long. Grips on mine felt better in my hand than the Colt, but the Colt grips are all wood and much fancier then mine. He offered me an even trade. WHAT SHOULD I DO? :?
 
tuff call, but i might trade for the trooper since i'm a sucker for nickle and i think the colt is worth more than the ruger.
 
Big Stu said:
I currently have a new 4" SS GP 100 and I really like it a lot, but a good friend asked me if I wanted to make a trade for his Colt Trooper 4" nickle finish. Both guns are in fine condition and I'd bet I have more rounds fired through the GP 100 than his Colt. The single action on the Colt was much better then the GP100 but the double action on the Ruger was better than the Trooper. Since I shoot much more single action, that is a big plus. The Trooper felt lighter and not as well balanced as the GP. How will the Colt hold up to the .357 Magnum loads. We know the Ruger will eat them up all day long. Grips on mine felt better in my hand than the Colt, but the Colt grips are all wood and much fancier then mine. He offered me an even trade. WHAT SHOULD I DO? :?
Keep your GP100. Better all around revolver. Parts are more available and just about any gunsmith will work on it. Its harder to find any gunsmith that will work on Colts.
Good luck,
Howard
 
I have both the GP and a Trooper. If it is a Trooper and not a Trooper Mark III it is worth more than a GP. It's much easier to find a nice GP than a nice Trooper.

I really enjoy both revolve.rs. I do shoot the Troope better and use it mostly for target shooting at the range. The GP is my prefered carry gun. It is definately stronger than the Trooper but I have always had a fondness for Colts
 
captainjack said:
I have both the GP and a Trooper. If it is a Trooper and not a Trooper Mark III it is worth more than a GP. It's much easier to find a nice GP than a nice Trooper.

I really enjoy both revolve.rs. I do shoot the Troope better and use it mostly for target shooting at the range. The GP is my prefered carry gun. It is definately stronger than the Trooper but I have always had a fondness for Colts

I believe it is actually a Trooper Mark III
 
Well, if the trade is even you could go ahead and trade, sell the Colt, and buy a new GP100 and have enough money left over for several boxes of ammo. As for which is the better gun, I have owned 2 Trooper MK3s and they are good guns, but they are both sold, while my GP100 lingers on. The GP just fits my hand so much better, and as you mentioned, the DA pull on the Trooper takes some getting used to, especially if you are used to shooting Ruger guns, or Smiths for that matter. It really isn't what I would call too heavy, just seem like it is extra looooooooong.
 
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I would do the trade if I liked the Colt. Go to Bud's and and get a new GP100 ( I just ordered one- a 3"). Then I went to Brownell's and got a "old-style" grip for it. They still have them in stock there as of a few days ago.

Approximately $537 all in and I will have the Hogue grips and as I stated the older wood-grip in addition.
Just something to consider...

Flatbush
 
The Trooper MKIII is a FAR inferior gun to the Original Trooper which is a Python without the rib. The MKIII was a move to cut manufacturing costs, and they quit making them because they did not sell well, and were not competetive. The fact that something is no longer made does not automatically make it better than what is made today. I have had a couple Trooper MKIII guns and I would not give you a plugged nickel for one if I was going to use it myself.

Now, there are people who think that anything that says Colt on it is wonderful, and anything that Colt discontinued is even better, and if you are going to sell it and get a gun to USE, then it is a business decision and you can get another GP100. The MKIII has one extremely weak part and that is the hand spring that is a soft flat spring that is easy to mess up just by removing the side plate. This is not to mention the minor flaw of a plastic pin in the back of the cylinder latch that wears out and the latch then rattles, or falls out if you pull the latch out.

For re-sale if you have a buyer, get and sell the Colt. To keep and shoot, keep the Ruger.

Just opinion, but one based on many years of working on guns.

Louie
 
I paid $480.00 out the door for my GP100 and got custom grips on it for an additional $50.00. If I make the trade, I have no intention of selling it or trading it, and there would certainly NOT be any money to go and buy another GP 100 so I need to decide which is best to own and which is more fun to shoot. I believe the Colt will hold it's value much better than the Ruger. I just LOVE my GP though.
 
If it's a MKIII, stick with the Ruger.
More durable gun over the long run, not subject to the MKIII trigger breakage, service & parts readily available, more choice in leather.
Better gun, over all.
Denis
 
I just looked on gunbroker, and while there are many with high asking prices, you can buy a good clean MKIII for around 500 dollars or even a little less with a little shopping. The high priced ones are the dreamers I was talking about, and they have no bids other than the rare versions and the odd ones like 22 magnum versions. It sounds like you have made up your mind, so enjoy your Colt. That is how you learn.....................

Louie
 
louiethelump said:
I just looked on gunbroker, and while there are many with high asking prices, you can buy a good clean MKIII for around 500 dollars or even a little less with a little shopping. The high priced ones are the dreamers I was talking about, and they have no bids other than the rare versions and the odd ones like 22 magnum versions. It sounds like you have made up your mind, so enjoy your Colt. That is how you learn.....................

Louie

Actually I do think I made up my mind, but it's the opposite. I am gonna stick with my GP 100. I may be making a bad business decision, but I just really LOVE my GP. :D
 
I'm with Bear Paw, you made the right decision. That GP will still be shooting strong long after that Colt starts showing wear or possible breakage internally.
 
contender said:
That GP will still be shooting strong long after that Colt starts showing wear or possible breakage internally.
And if/when it does, it'll be a LOT easier to get the Ruger fixed than the Colt.
 
I have a Colt King Cobra which is the same, pretty much, as the Trooper III. It's a good gun, but it can't do anything a GP100 can't except it has that golden Pony on the side which magically increases the price.........The Mark III Colts are a lot like a Dan Wesson revolver.................and the King Cobras tend to command higher prices than the Trooper or Lawman III's since the King Cobra has always been known as a "budget Python".


The Mark III series uses Sintered parts,which are similiar to MIM. The Mark III's don't have the need to be re-adjusted for timing like the older Colts, since they carry up more like a Dan Wesson or S&W.

I don't know anything about the deal or your friend, but your friend would be better off selling the Trooper III, buying a brand new or used GP100 and he'd probably have a few bucks left over.
 
Yep, if you're going to shoot it alot the Geep is the way to go. You could make him an offer on the Colt and then sell it and pocket the difference.
 
I had a Lawman MkV, which essentially was the fixed-sight version of the Trooper MkV. While the MkV action, trigger, and hammer components were a distinct improvement on the previous MkIII set-up, the internal components were only surface-hardened, so any action jobs performed to improve the triggerpulls was pretty much restricted to spring switching.

The nylon component to the latch release intrinsically bugged me too; while I never had a problem with mine, I foresaw this as a limited lifespan type of componentry.

I found the Colt's trigger to be a bit odd in several aspects; first, the architecture of the trigger and the triggerguard resullted in a very, very tight clearance, to the point of where my trigger visibly rubbed against and slightly marred the innersurface of my triggerguard-and this was both before and after I had my trigger adjusted; second, while the Colt's single action triggerpull was magnificent, the DA was heavy and stagey.

While the MkV action, as seen on the Troopers, Lawmen, Boas, Peacekeepers, and King Cobras was certainly improved over its predecessors, I see it as a distant second to the Security/Service/Speed Six and GP100 actions-both intrinsically and in terms of improveability.

While the MkV guns have a reputation for strength, I think that the Rugers are all over them for durability-and are certainly easier to disassemble (and you don't have to worry about a cylinder retention screw loosening and falling out and, shall we say, an inopportune moment...).

I eventually traded my MkV Lawman across the board for a BNIB P89. I have absolutely zero regrets, and my understanding is that the Lawman is slated to go into a museum.

I will say that for what was essentially an entry-level, bare-bones law enforcement service gun it was beautifully blued and finished.

I would definitely recommend that you go with GP100 (or a Security Six), especially over a Trooper MkIII.

Best, Jon
 
My thanks to everyone that voiced an opinion. I am going to keep my GP100 and my friend can keep his Colt. I told him he could probably trade it at a gun shop even up for a GP 100 but it ain't gonna be mine.
 
I had a gp100 and i liked it better than the Trooper mark III i had , Now if it were a early Trooper and then with the Nickle finish I probally would have done it but in the days i had the gp100 I had 7 357 mag revolvers .
Accuracy wise i did shoot the gp100 better and it being a stanless revolver i really did like it , I dont regret letting it go but do miss it . The mark III was a very plane blue and functional revolver with resonable accuracy and i dont miss it a bit . My only double action revolver these days is a Smith 66-1 .357 and my other .357 is a Freedom arms .
 
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