Chipotle sickness . . . . .

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http://www.cnbc.com/2016/02/08/chipotle-blames-norovirus-outbreaks-on-sick-employees.html
Isn't it interesting how they continue to ignore the most probable reason;
employees that do not WASH THEIR HANDS before exiting the "restroom".

Have had outbreaks around here about once every eight to ten years at
Taco Belch. EVERY time they trace it to an employee that needed to do
porcelain receptacle time, and didn't wash their hands before coming out.

Make the consequences for non compliance as severe as legally possible!





OH! I FORGET!
:roll: WE ARE ALMOST THIRD WORLD NOW AND IT WOULD BE
OFFENSIVE TO OTHERS! :roll:
 
I'm not very much concerned. Anyone who eats the stuff they sell at Chipotle deserves whatever he gets.
 
Pal Val said:
I'm not very much concerned. Anyone who eats the stuff they sell at Chipotle deserves whatever he gets.


I've never eaten at Chipotle. It does not interest me at all.

But nobody deserves to get sick because they decide to eat at any given restaurant.

WAYNO.
 
Last time I bought food at Chipotle was when they were first getting started - and you can believe me Betty - they've always been a very "progressive" restaurant chain. I ate there a few times many years ago and the food was good for the price. I liked it. It hit the spot on those half-dozen or so occasions and I have no regrets.

The customers decide and nobody should have to die for eating a burrito - except in a Cheech and Chong remake, maybe :lol: - even if they do it because they think it's "hip" - just as nobody should have to get sick for eating at any other chain restaurant. Everyone should be able to agree on that. I don't have any schadenfreude for Chipotle, in other words. I hope they get their restaurant chain back to people's expectations. It sounds like bad luck and some places that weren't upholding their standards.
 
McDonalds used to own the Chipotle chain. I've tried it just twice, not lately though. But when McDonalds sold the chain it was worth quite a bit, I remember the news piece I read said something like 12 million per outlet.
 
I know I am weird, in so many ways, but I do hesitate to eat in restaurants, especially fast food, or to get deli food at the grocery stores during the cold and flu season. I have worked retail where employees who handled food came to work sick because they could not afford to be without pay. Even handling food with gloves does not protect the consumer when the food handler is working ill. I prefer to cook at home and eat at home as much as possible to avoid contaminated food.

I know, I am weird.........

Viking Queen
 
I like(d) the shredded beef burritos, way back when. Put plenty of hot sauce
on them to offset that basic blandness and it . . was . . fine.
EXCEPT for one thing. It is LOUD in there! The only thing to absorb noise
is people, and they talk louder because of the noise. :roll:

My last time in was two years ago. My best guess is several times that long
before I will even consider doing it again.

Qdoba(sp?) is another version that seems MUCH better in quality and proper
procedures. But they are about 10% higher cost. :shock:
Oh well. . . . . If you can avoid getting sick it is WELL worth it. :D
 
I've eaten there a few times and liked it, but I'd be very reluctant to eat in one now, even though I probably shouldn't be.
 
I've read that Chipolte hires mostly illegal aliens (although how they get away with having employees without an I9 form surprises me), and it is illegals that are re-introducing many diseases to the U.S. that were generally considered gone or under control, such as measles, TB, etc. And while all restaurants are at risk for outbreaks of infectious diseases, the seemingly endless number of problems at the Chipolte chain make me wonder about folks who continue to go there.
 
Seems folks are completely shocked that such a thing has happened in any restaurant. If you think it doesn't happen other places, probably every day of the week, your head is buried in the sand.

Just a few notable episodes...

1993
E. coli O157:H7 in undercooked hamburgers from Jack in the Box. Four children died and nearly 700 others became sick in the Seattle area and other parts of the Pacific Northwest. The outrage resulting from the deaths placed strong political pressure on Washington and resulted in new regulations from the USDA to reform century-old practices in the meat industry. The new regulations, titled Pathogen Reduction and Hazard Analysis and Critical Control Point Systems Final Rule, required a mandatory HACCP inspection system and microbial testing in meat processing plants.

1994
Salmonella in ice cream from Schwan's Sales Enterprises of Marshall, Minnesota. The outbreak was confirmed to have sickened 740 people in 30 states and is suspected to have sickened over 3,000 additional people in as many as 41 states. The contamination occurred when raw, unpasteurized eggs were hauled in a tanker truck that later carried pasteurized ice cream to the Schwan's plant. The ice cream premix wasn't pasteurized again after delivery to the plant.

1996
E. coli O157:H7 in unpasteurized apple juice from Odwalla. The company was using blemished fruit and ignored warnings from in-house safety experts and specialized in selling unpasteurized juices for their supposed health benefits. 70 people in several U.S. states were stricken, mostly in the West, and in Canada. The outbreak took the life of one child, a 16-month-old girl from Colorado.
E. coli O157:H7 in lettuce sickened at least 61 people in Illinois, Connecticut and New York in May and June 1996.

1997
Hepatitis A on frozen strawberries from Andrew & Williamson Sales Co. of San Diego, California. The strawberries were grown in Baja California, Mexico and processed by A&W. Thousands of students from Arizona, California, Georgia, Iowa, Michigan, and Tennessee may have been exposed to the virus from eating strawberries in school lunches. Over 2.6 million pounds of strawberries were recalled.
1997 E. coli O157:H7 in ground beef from Hudson Foods Company of Rogers, Arkansas. Burger King was the largest client. The plant was in Columbus, Nebraska. The company recalled over 25 million pounds of ground beef it had manufactured, in the second largest recall in history.



1998
United States listeriosis outbreak was the third-deadliest outbreak of foodborne illness. There were 14 deaths and 4 miscarriages or stillbirths in a Listeria outbreak in hot dogs and cold cuts. Some sources put the death toll as high as 21.

2006
E. coli O157:H7 from Taco Bell in South Plainfield, New Jersey and Long Island. 39 people in central New Jersey and on Long Island were sickened and suffered from hemolytic uremic syndrome. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention at first believed the E. coli O157:H7 to be in the green onions. The FDA on December 13, 2006 said it could not confirm that scallions were the cause of the problem, as previously suspected, and that it was not ruling out any food as a possible culprit. It was later suspected that infected lettuce was the cause.
2006 North American E. coli outbreak. E. coli O157:H7 in bagged spinach packaged by Natural Selection Foods and most likely supplied by Earthbound Farm in San Juan Bautista. 3 dead, and 198 people reported sickened by the outbreak across 25 US states, and 1 person reported sickened by the outbreak in Ontario.

This is a very small sample of a huge and never-ending list of outbreaks.

To blame just one restaurant is ludicrous. Any single food item could be handled by dozens of folks in many warehouses, rail cars, or trucks before it arrives at a serving facility, only to be handled again. Folks are lazy about hygiene. It's surprising there aren't more of us sick. Even customers have a responsibility to at least wash their hands. I'm disgusted to see how many men leave public restrooms without washing their hands. So even customers could be the origin of an outbreak.

WAYNO.
 
I eat out a bunch. Too much.I've had food poisoning from mild to wild from restauarants and my own mother in law. There is one thing I saw years ago that catches my eye all the time now. Gloves.

You say gloves are good. I saw a TV show about food prep and it said otherwise. My own observations back it up too. Gloves give the perception of clean, but because of that perception the employees don't wash as much, or as well, AND they rarely change gloves. Watch they guy go from the food prep section to the register to some other section and back to the food wearling the same "safe" gloves.

Knowing people in, and having been in, food service I know the horror stories, yet I still take my life n my own hands. Yes, I drive my own vehicle to work everyday too. Don't get me going on people and their driving havbits.


It's life. It's not safe. We just aren't on the food chain anymore. (generally) You can hide, or you can be smart about what you do and still live. I avoided a popular Italian place that "Treats you like family" for just short of 20 years over the worst food poisoning I've ever had. I thank God that my then 2 year old daughter would not try it when I offered her a bite. My wife and daughter love the place. I call it the tomain palace.
 
I saw an internet cartoon that showed a guy sittting on the "throne" in obvious intestinal distress. Jesus is looking on and says "Eleven, eleven times you swore to me you would never eat at Chipotle again!" Seriously the last outbreak in Boston was so bad it sickened the entire Boston College basketball team. People have died from in e.coli contracted there in other states. :evil:
 
Chipotle food is for sissies....we live near Tijuana...there is nothing to compare with a street vendor taco or burrito off the carts in Zona Norte in Tijuana...you might notice there are no dogs roaming wild in TJ...there is a reason....Enough hot sauce and they are gud!

Now you want to talk about sick? Store front Chinese buffet in Hawaii...ate some sort of "mixture"...gave a whole new meaning to "get outta my way!!" Also once coming back from Guymas Mexico and really wanted a Pastrami sandwich...crossed the border at Nogales and found some little dump of a coffee shop...they had pastrami...I ate pastrami...drove across the desert sort of standing up in my car.
 
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