Changing barrels?

[muskrat man]

Hello, I was wondering what exactly is involved in remove a barrel from a new model single six. I would like to replace it with a custom 16" unit to make a "buntline" single six if you will. Also is there anyone you could recommend me to that is proficient in this type of work.

 

[flatgate]

One can remove barrels rather easily. Installation of a "new" barrel requires "machine shop" equipment.

There are many very competent gunsmiths and gun makers whom can help you. Since you are from Ohio you should consult with a "local expert".... Ruger Forum member rugerguy.

JMHO,

flatgate

 

[REP1954]

One thing you want to keep in mind when swapping the barrel on a Single Six is if you have both a magnum and long rifle cylinder you want to go with a .223 groove diameter barrel.

 

[muskrat man]

Thanks Men. I have a local buddy who is a 1/2 retired gunsmith with a fully equipped shop, so i'm sure he could help me along with the installation of a new barrel. I want to do the same thing with a MKII. Are those threaded or one piece? If one piece I see no reason one could not cut it off at the chamber, bore out, thread, and thread a new barrel in? Of course you'd have to cut a new chamber and more than likely extractor recesses too.

This is the look i'm shooting for with the MKII. The single six I'd probably end up rigging up some kind of detachable shoulder stock like the .44's and .45's uberti used to make.

Yes I know they are speciality guns and I would be better off the buy a 10/22, it's cheaper, more comfortable and more than likely more accurate but I already have 5 of those. I want a fun project and always liked pistol like carbines.

 

[EDK]

Great idea, but you'd better do some checking on the laws concerning such conversions. The FEDS would rather mess with you than the cartel, gangs, etc....you'd just have "the deer in the headlights look" when they put the cuffs on you; the real bad guys would have an empty gun at their feet!

The Federal Tax stamp and other bureaucratic necessities would also be expensive. I'm thinking $200 tax stamp per gun and your name on a list that you don't want it on.

There is a reason that such a conversion is not factory available to you.

 

[muskrat man]

FYI there are rifle conversions made for many pistols, including the mark II, glocks, 1911's, beretta neos ect. I have found no information stating it is illegal to add a shoulder stock to a handgun as long as the barrel length is a legal rifle length. Adding the shoulder stock to a handgun with a barrel length of less than 16" would be illegal as if i'm not mistaken would categorize it as a SBR or AOW. Maybe I am mistaken but if it requires the forms and tax stamp I wonder how companies market all of the above conversions and uberti produced 18" buntline cattleman SA revolvers with detachable shoulder stocks and no extra taxes or forms?

Pretty much the same issue with T/C contenders. You can have an 8-14" pistol that with readily accept a factory made stock for the unit that would make it a class 3 weapon if it were to be installed on a frame with a barrel less than 16". But as long as you have a 16"+ barrel on the frame when the shoulder stock is in place you're A. O. K. Maybe i'm missing something?

 

[REP1954]

FYI there are rifle conversions made for many pistols, including the mark II, glocks, 1911's, beretta neos ect. I have found no information stating it is illegal to add a shoulder stock to a handgun as long as the barrel length is a legal rifle length. Adding the shoulder stock to a handgun with a barrel length of less than 16" would be illegal as if i'm not mistaken would categorize it as a SBR or AOW. Maybe I am mistaken but if it requires the forms and tax stamp I wonder how companies market all of the above conversions and uberti produced 18" buntline cattleman SA revolvers with detachable shoulder stocks and no extra taxes or forms?

Pretty much the same issue with T/C contenders. You can have an 8-14" pistol that with readily accept a factory made stock for the unit that would make it a class 3 weapon if it were to be installed on a frame with a barrel less than 16". But as long as you have a 16"+ barrel on the frame when the shoulder stock is in place you're A. O. K. Maybe i'm missing something?

I believe everything you have stated is correct but as I understand it even though you have converted a handgun into a rifle once it has been registered as a handgun that is how it must be treated when passing it on to another person if a gift or as being sold.

 

[muskrat man]

well projects like this would be with me till I'm gone. I suppose it could always be converted back before sale

 

[MOUNTAIN WILLIAM]

I believe everything you have stated is correct but as I understand it even though you have converted a handgun into a rifle once it has been registered as a handgun that is how it must be treated when passing it on to another person if a gift or as being sold.

I don't know about your state laws, but as far as the BATFE and the NFA, this is incorrect.
As long as your barrel length is at least 16" and your overall length is 26" you're good to go without any NFA registration. In some cases the project "rifle" may not meet the 26" minimum overall length with a 16" barrel, so the barrel can be used to take up the slack by making it longer.

 

[MtnJack]

Muskrat better check out the atf web site. As i believe it you can not convert it back to a hand gun once it is in rifle configeration. Thompson center sort of got an exception, but all others beware. Good luck Mtn Jack

 

[REP1954]

When I put together this AR15 pistol I bought the lower receiver first it is a RRA's lower and marked " Pistol Only". The bare receiver was all I bought at the time and I had to get a handgun purchase permit to buy it and then had to register it with the State Of Michigan. At the time I registered it I was informed that no matter what I did with this gun the lower receiver was a handgun lower and when changing hands for ownership had to be treated as a handgun.