A local gun shop that has had virtually zero 9mm for sale (I suspect he was holding back what he had for those first time gun buyers) had some Blazer 9mm, aluminum cases, for $35 a box of 50. Not a great price, but nice to see some ammo back on the shelves. I bought two boxes for the range, a place I have not even been to in several months.
Ammo situation
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The Preacher
Blackhawk
Have to say it... unless you have next to zero 9mm ammo you got taken... Sorry....
bobski
Hunter
agree. nice to hear others are doing what im doing.
MAKE AMMO MAKERS BEG FOR YOUR BUSINESS.
MAKE AMMO MAKERS BEG FOR YOUR BUSINESS.
RSIno1
Hunter
I'd put in my 2 cents about time to start reloading but those components are just as hard or harder to get than ammo.
My supply house hasn't gotten too greedy though when he gets primers they are $50 per thousand. Yes higher than the normal $35 but I fully understand he needs X amount of dollars to keep the doors open and now he has to get that total sum from a smaller volume of products so the prices must go up just to stay in business.
My supply house hasn't gotten too greedy though when he gets primers they are $50 per thousand. Yes higher than the normal $35 but I fully understand he needs X amount of dollars to keep the doors open and now he has to get that total sum from a smaller volume of products so the prices must go up just to stay in business.
Thankfully I don’t need the ammo but I sure wouldn’t pay that for BRASS cased, let alone tin.
At a reasonable price, I'd buy some factory load 9mm sub-sonic just for range use since my preferred sub-sonic load bullets are virtually un-obtainium.
In fact I might even buy 10 boxes of 6.5 Creedmoor--but not @ $1.50-2.00 per round.
In fact I might even buy 10 boxes of 6.5 Creedmoor--but not @ $1.50-2.00 per round.
Captain America
Hunter
I’m in the “don’t buy” camp but this time it’s different. With shortages of almost all manufactured goods and serious inflation already underway theses prices are probably here to stay.
"....prices here to stay..." NOPE not true.
WE are the controllers of the markets.... if WE DON'T BUY.... no matter what... the markets will respond.
Prices and inflation are not here to stay.... everything is CONTROLLED.... VOTE WITH YOUR FEET (stay away).
DON'T BUY ..... WE CONTROL THE MARKET.... you buy ammo (or components) at inflated prices, the price of bread and other goods will inflate too........ DISCIPLINE (we can live without shooting our guns for a couple of years)
J.
WE are the controllers of the markets.... if WE DON'T BUY.... no matter what... the markets will respond.
Prices and inflation are not here to stay.... everything is CONTROLLED.... VOTE WITH YOUR FEET (stay away).
DON'T BUY ..... WE CONTROL THE MARKET.... you buy ammo (or components) at inflated prices, the price of bread and other goods will inflate too........ DISCIPLINE (we can live without shooting our guns for a couple of years)
J.
I figure I earned my money and I will damn well spend it on things I want.
And I want to shoot my new .45/70
So yup, I paid $3 a trigger pull for some Federal Hammer Down 300gr ammo.
Never owned one before and wow, what an accurate fun shooting gun!
Guess what? Gonna go buy more overpriced ammo.
And I want to shoot my new .45/70
So yup, I paid $3 a trigger pull for some Federal Hammer Down 300gr ammo.
Never owned one before and wow, what an accurate fun shooting gun!
Guess what? Gonna go buy more overpriced ammo.
57springer
Buckeye
I agree !375hh1973 said:
bobski
Hunter
then its people like you that are causing the market to rise, and make those who cant afford shooting suffer.
yes you are entitled to buy what you want and enjoy the fruits of your labor....but its gonna be real lonely at the range if youre the only one there.
so much for the......'we are in this together' and 'united we stand as gun owners' concept.
appears its, every (rich) man for himself.
take no offense.
its just the way of the self centered capitalistic economic world, and truth comes out in the wash when times are tuff.
yes you are entitled to buy what you want and enjoy the fruits of your labor....but its gonna be real lonely at the range if youre the only one there.
so much for the......'we are in this together' and 'united we stand as gun owners' concept.
appears its, every (rich) man for himself.
take no offense.
its just the way of the self centered capitalistic economic world, and truth comes out in the wash when times are tuff.
Igor
Single-Sixer
bobski said:
So, to your way of thinking, if I buy a new truck I cause the prices of vehicles to go up? If I just wait then truck prices will go down................
Last week I found 45/70 cowboy loads , $59.99 for 20.
Bought two boxes, had them shipped so add tax to total.
I'd have paid twice that..... because my 98 year old dad wanted some.
He bought another 45/70 Springfield trapdoor yesterday. And he and I were talking about how much more this one cost than the other two he has and how much more ammo costs now than back in the 30s when he bought his first trapdoor.
This one was less than his first using our back of the envelope inflation calculations, ammo at $3 a round is up about 20% from what he recalls. And his mind is real good with guns and his investments.
Perspective like that helps.
Bought two boxes, had them shipped so add tax to total.
I'd have paid twice that..... because my 98 year old dad wanted some.
He bought another 45/70 Springfield trapdoor yesterday. And he and I were talking about how much more this one cost than the other two he has and how much more ammo costs now than back in the 30s when he bought his first trapdoor.
This one was less than his first using our back of the envelope inflation calculations, ammo at $3 a round is up about 20% from what he recalls. And his mind is real good with guns and his investments.
Perspective like that helps.
bobski said:
No offense taken.
I have cut back on my shooting since this nonsense started. But I'm not gonna stop.
Seems like I cant win. IF I complain about the price of ammo, I "should have stocked up during normal times, bla bla bla..."
IF I wanna go shoot now, I "shouldnt pay high prices for ammo, bla bla bla..."
My dad is getting older and thankfully still in great health. Shooting is something that we can enjoy together. I look at an increase in ammo is small in the long run when it comes to enjoying time with my dad
57springer
Buckeye
Buy what you can when you find it. I don't see the price coming down . Todays ammo most likely will seem like a deal down the road .
I don't see ammo prices coming down either. Some, but definitely not back to what they were two years ago. $35 for 9mm might be just a bit too much, but not by a lot. Around here it seems to be $29 or $30 per box of 50. I've bought some at that price. 22LR seems to be all over the pricing charts. I bought some a couple weeks ago for $10 a box of 100. That seemed to be a good deal.
And for primers, I can't say, they too are all over the map as far as prices go. IF you can even find them.
Just my humble opinion, but these prices are here to stay....
And for primers, I can't say, they too are all over the map as far as prices go. IF you can even find them.
Just my humble opinion, but these prices are here to stay....
57springer
Buckeye
Not a bad price. The shop is ok , I have bought several guns from them in the past .Mike J said:
Johnnu2 said:
No, it is more complicated than that. You've got to factor in inflation in every part from the raw materials to the distribution to the sales. The rent for the store has gone up, the employee's salaries who are selling the ammo have increased et cetera. I just don't see 9mm going down below the mid $20 dollars for a box of 50.
Johnnu2 said:
Sorry, yes, you are correct as well. It does have a lot to do with Supply and Demand. Those gun stores where they want $199 for a thousand primers must not have a steady supply of primers available to sell. They must figure if the demand at $200 isn't there, they can lower the price until they sell.
So yes, Supply and Demand does have a great deal to do with the prices. I was thinking about my earlier reply and didn't mean to be so abrupt. I apologize.
bobski
Hunter
customers control a market.
makers respond to a demand.
prices reflect a demand.
higher the demand, higher the price.
when inventory is high, production stalls.
makers must sell to sellers to allow for more inventory.
sellers either raise price on customer demand or,
sell in volume at low price.
(pros to selling low)
selling low creates a customer bond of trust.
customers will bring more buyers to the store.
(cons to selling low)
hoarders buy it and pocket the profit as an unauthorized unlicensed middleman.
inventory is cleaned out too fast.
(pros to selling high)
you get rich for a season.
you attract only the rich to your store, keeping the average joe out.
(cons to selling high)
the rich keep coming but,
the avarage joe will remember how you rooked him and the word will get out to your greediness.
people may stop buying all together.
waiting till the end of the year to reduce prices may be too late. forcing the greedy to eat their inventory and pay tax on it.
captialism is a game of cat and mouse between 3 groups, makers, sales, and buyers.
if anyone in this cyber world thinks that the industry is your friend, youve been duped. without YOUR MONEY they will fail.
they dont want to fail. they want you to buy.
but if you dont show restraint, neither will they.
the good book say that a fool and his money shall soon part.
i didnt write it, i just repeat it.
i share my education hoping it will enlighten and protect others unaware of whats really happening out there in the gun world.
thus why i say all of this with all due respect knowing youre entitled to do what you want.
just remember, doing whatever you want is fine...if it doesnt hurt others.
does buying at high prices hurt others?
im not your judge.
im just looking at the facts.
its pretty clear in my opinion.
makers respond to a demand.
prices reflect a demand.
higher the demand, higher the price.
when inventory is high, production stalls.
makers must sell to sellers to allow for more inventory.
sellers either raise price on customer demand or,
sell in volume at low price.
(pros to selling low)
selling low creates a customer bond of trust.
customers will bring more buyers to the store.
(cons to selling low)
hoarders buy it and pocket the profit as an unauthorized unlicensed middleman.
inventory is cleaned out too fast.
(pros to selling high)
you get rich for a season.
you attract only the rich to your store, keeping the average joe out.
(cons to selling high)
the rich keep coming but,
the avarage joe will remember how you rooked him and the word will get out to your greediness.
people may stop buying all together.
waiting till the end of the year to reduce prices may be too late. forcing the greedy to eat their inventory and pay tax on it.
captialism is a game of cat and mouse between 3 groups, makers, sales, and buyers.
if anyone in this cyber world thinks that the industry is your friend, youve been duped. without YOUR MONEY they will fail.
they dont want to fail. they want you to buy.
but if you dont show restraint, neither will they.
the good book say that a fool and his money shall soon part.
i didnt write it, i just repeat it.
i share my education hoping it will enlighten and protect others unaware of whats really happening out there in the gun world.
thus why i say all of this with all due respect knowing youre entitled to do what you want.
just remember, doing whatever you want is fine...if it doesnt hurt others.
does buying at high prices hurt others?
im not your judge.
im just looking at the facts.
its pretty clear in my opinion.
OP
Another factor, at least for me, is age. I'm 78, and I don't plan on sitting around waiting for ammo to come down in price because by then I may be on the wrong side of the grass, or no longer able to actually hold a gun and shoot. Or maybe I'll make it to 103 as my Mom did.
Turning 78 in early June really got my mind to thinking the thought: "what am I waiting for?" relevant to many subjects. I had been thinking of trading in the big motorcycle for a 3 wheeler, so I got my self a new Can Am Spyder (and love it). I put money down on a Mini convertible for my wife, a car she has daydreamed about. I told her, "you're turning 75 this summer, how much longer will you wait before getting this thing that you have joked about as wanting for years now?". And while I don't enjoy having to pay the $35 that I did pay for a box of 50 crappy 9mm rounds, I can shoot those up at the range and not feel that I have to hold back for who knows when.
Turning 78 in early June really got my mind to thinking the thought: "what am I waiting for?" relevant to many subjects. I had been thinking of trading in the big motorcycle for a 3 wheeler, so I got my self a new Can Am Spyder (and love it). I put money down on a Mini convertible for my wife, a car she has daydreamed about. I told her, "you're turning 75 this summer, how much longer will you wait before getting this thing that you have joked about as wanting for years now?". And while I don't enjoy having to pay the $35 that I did pay for a box of 50 crappy 9mm rounds, I can shoot those up at the range and not feel that I have to hold back for who knows when.
Igor
Single-Sixer
bobski said:
If only life, and economics, was as simple and straighforward as you make it out to be.
vito said:
Totally agree with this!
My dad is similiar age.
Woke up the other day and said he always wanted a sports car. Has more money than he knows what to do with and went and paid cash for a brand new Camaro with a big engine.
He always jokes when he buys something "Hey kid, I just spent some of your inheritance!"
My response is "Good! You earned it!!"
Great post above, vito!
Here's a couple of memes I've saved that mean something to me. In the first substitute anything (ammunition) for motorcycle. The second is self explanatory.
Here's a couple of memes I've saved that mean something to me. In the first substitute anything (ammunition) for motorcycle. The second is self explanatory.
57springer
Buckeye
Yes !Igor said:
