A question ...

[Fox Mike]

First off; is the Aunt the girl's guardian or does the girl have parents? If she has parents then I would 'suggest' to auntie that she allow the girl's parents make the decision as to 'can' or 'should' she watch it. Sounds to me you are dealing with a prude. At 13 I would just bet that the young lady know what a bare butt looks like.

 

[Dan in MI]

Mike - most homeschooled kids come from very conservative families. I wouldn't consider that question out of line.

1- talk the parents/Guardian

2- it's a DVD how hard is it to just select the hunt scene? 2b- that's a loooong movie for a classroom. You may just want the hunt portion anyhow.

 

[Jimbo357mag]

Rated PG-13 https://www.moviefone.com/movie/dances-with-wolves/3761/main/

 

[Fox Mike]

Mike - most homeschooled kids come from very conservative families. I wouldn't consider that question out of line.

1- talk the parents/Guardian

2- it's a DVD how hard is it to just select the hunt scene? 2b- that's a loooong movie for a classroom. You may just want the hunt portion anyhow.

I assume you are speaking to me. .. the name is Frank (see my signature line)
Fox Mike is my 'username' here.
If the aunt is NOT the child's guardian I feel she IS out of line. That is a parental decision not an aunt's.
Read what he said...he was showing clips from DVDs, not the entire movie.

 

[mistermills357]

I like Dances With Wolves, and I am a conservative Christian. The woman in question has looked at the small picture, and not the big one. She is being ridiculous.
Can she learn? Did she see all of the cruelty in the movie? It shows people what to avoid being, as much as anything.
And it displays nobility in other areas: such as a white man being accepted into an Indian tribe, and not killed.

It is a very good movie.

 

[Rancher Will]

The woman is a poster child of the modern "women's rights" movement. In my lifetime many women have learned that many men are wimps and they use that knowledge to impose their will. Any man who permits this kind of nonsense is pandering to the nonsense.

I have great-Grandchildren, some are female, and anyone who tries to tell a 13 years old that a few seconds display of one man's butt is offensive, while ignoring millions of women's butts and breasts on public display everywhere 24-7 is a hypocrite.

 

[Dan in MI]

Frank, you're right I didn't pay attention about your username.

Now back to the OP. He mentioned clips prior to the talk of DWW. He did not after and the Aunt's issue suggested the whole movie and he didn't discount it by saying just the clip of hunting.

 

[blackhawknj]

I haven't seen the movie since 1990,IIRC the heroine appears in the buff. I firmly believe in deferring to parent/guardian authority, and fudd that I am I find nudity in movies distracting. What's the modern phrase-the O.S.S.-Obligatory Sex Scene.

 

[Pat-inCO]

I would tell her that if SHE is offended, then it is up to HER to copy off
the portion to be shown. Tell her that if you disapprove of what she puts
out, she can do it again. If that is not acceptable, then . . . you . . . will
select what is to be shown.

Phrased differently: Get off her dead butt and do some productive work,
or shut up.

 

[Joe S.]

I won't knock the lady's values. As a parent/ aunt/ uncle/ friend, people try to protect their younger generation as they see fit. She may speak out against all the sex/ nudity/ risque everything in society to her niece as well as this situation. Maybe she started watching the movie and stopped at the man's bare bottom and didn't know about the other. Hard to say. That said, there is also a thing i call tact. If i chose to call you on suggesting the movie to my niece, I probably would have done it gently. Simply letting you know, hey they dont let her watch that kind of stuff.

I've never seen the movie. But other movies I've seen that has nudity is, in my experience, unnecessary most of the time. But hey, sex sells. Honestly, if it was just me in my house, i wouldnt have a tv because there is WAY TOO MUCH of it on the air these days.

Most of my tv watching is done on youtube and old Gunsmoke episodes or similar era tv/ movies.

But to answer your question. If you had known their stance, and suggested the movie anyway, then I'd say yes you were out of line. Since you didn't, I'd say no you werent.

A buddy of mine made a joking comment on my Facebook page and posted a picture of a man running down the street with a caption that said, "We're all going streaking." I laughed it off and didn't think anything of it. The next day at church one of my friends came to me and asked that I consider removing it because he too had commented on that post and everytime someone else commented he would see that picture, and it was offensive to him. I deleted the picture comment. He is a man of strong moral convictions and it just bothered him. I didn't want him to feel uncomfortable commenting on my posts in the future. But he approached me with tact. That typically gets people a lot further with me than the way she approached you. Ha

 

[toysoldier]

Prime-time TV shows focus on murder, rape, child molestation, and autopsies on rotting corpses---and this woman is worried about the sight of a man's butt? There is absolutely nothing offensive or prurient about simple nudity. Tell her to take a hike.

 

[Mike J]

FWIW-My kids are home schooled. While they were in a home school co-op for a while they haven't been involved in that type setting for while. My wife uses Abeka's curriculum & teaches them at home. I showed her your post & asked her opinion. She said she didn't really think you were out of line. From what she said if she were in the Aunts position she would not have said a word to you. However she would have made her own decision about what she judged to be appropriate or inappropriate for our kids to watch.

We really don't let them watch a lot of Disney stuff because of the messages contained in that tripe.

It is up to you what you do or don't do. Personally I would probably just let it go. I don't believe it is really necessary to do anything.

 

[gramps]

As a nurse of 46 years, I find this woman's comment out of line. Though I would have said yes ma'am when talking to her. The reason she gave was bogus in my opinion. I am positive the thirteen y o has seen worse. You didn't show that part, and rejecting the whole learning experience to be had from watching the film was weird. FWIW Our own GP100 had some parts in it.
gramps

 

[contender]

I personally agree with many above that unless the aunt in question is the legal guardian,,, I'd ignore her in a polite manner,, all while wanting to tell her to take a hike & look around at the real world & what is shown daily in many, many more venues.
The scene in question was an honest scene that had ZERO sexual overtones. It was a man taking a bath & suddenly discovering he was not alone as he thought. Heck,,, in my business,,, I had a woman taking a tub bath,, felt/heard scratching in the tub,,, vacated the tub,, all the way to the outdoors,, butt naked. An honest reaction to fear or whatever. (Turns out a possum had a nest in the hollow space behind the tub,, not any access to the home.)

I also had a girl I dated over 25 years ago,,, who got pretty upset because of a brief nudity scene in a movie,,, being shown in my home,,, on HBO. A Steven Segal movie,,, where a girl was topless,, and her bare breasts were shown briefly,,, and then she was shot & killed as she was a "bad" girl. My son,,, who was about 10 at the time,,, was watching the movie with all of us. (None of us had ever seen the movie,,, so we didn't know about the scene.
As a parent,, I felt if I made a big deal about it,,, my son would want to get more inquisitive about why I wouldn't let him watch the movie. My girlfriend felt I should have immediately stopped him from watching the movie. I felt that my response created a lesser impact than if I'd gotten upset about it all. Turns out,,, she'd been studying our relationship with an eye towards the future,,, and she wanted another child. She felt my parenting wasn't to her standards,,, and would cause us conflicts. While we remain friends,,, (because she was honest,,, & calm in her explanations,,, and had her beliefs,,,) we went our separate ways.

Parenting is done differently all over the place. Defer to the parents,,, apologize if they felt offended,,, but try & NOT make a bigger deal out of things than they are.

 

[powder smoke]

If she is NOT the guardian she has no say, it is that simple!
Good on you Dixie, happy to see you are involved with home schooling. ps

 

[blackhawknj]

Nothing wrong with being a prude IMHO. Kids see thousands of killings in movies and TV then we wonder why they're so warped. I note that foul and obscene language is not seen on this forum. Is that a mark of prudishness, people having some of neuroses about certain words? Or are they just trying to maintain standards of decency and decorum ?

 

[Kevin]

In this day and age, anything sexual or even suggestive in a classroom situation needs to be very closely monitored. If it comes down to a "he said, she said" type of discussion, that would end up very bad.

I've seen the movie, and 14 is probably old enough, but then it simply comes down to letting the families make their own decisions about watching it or not. I don't think it's right to say the aunt is out of line, or that she is being a prude. Perhaps it is something she wants to be more involved with for the kid's sake and not leave it up to just some teacher she might not know very well.

After all, these kid's are being home schooled so there could already be a level of distrust concerning teachers in that family.

 

[exavid]

I'd say, sorry maam, It didn't occur to me, been a long time since I saw the movie. Lots of people used to have prissy aunts. My mother didn't like to hear me or my brother say, "butt" unless we were joining something end to end. It was always "rump" or "rear" around there. The "F" word was never heard in our house except for once. That was when I came home from basic training on the way to Fort Richardson. The whole family and some friends came to dinner and I lost my mind momentarily when I said, "pass me the f---ing spuds" I even forgot to say, "please". There was a terrible silence at the table while I melted and oozed away. At least I didn't slip up in my apology and use any other commonly used Army words. To this day, fifty four years later, I can't look at mashed potatoes without thinking of my monstrous faux pas.

 

[volshooter]

These days there is one PC snowflake in every crowd.
Don't let it brother you.
Very good movie by the way.

 

[Taterman]

As a nurse of 46 years, I find this woman's comment out of line. Though I would have said yes ma'am when talking to her. The reason she gave was bogus in my opinion. I am positive the thirteen y o has seen worse. You didn't show that part, and rejecting the whole learning experience to be had from watching the film was weird. FWIW Our own GP100 had some parts in it.
gramps

Very cool, I recently watched DWW. Where/who was GP100 in it?