32 H&R clyinder spin

JCG

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I have two New Model single six's and several Vaquero's that are used for Cowboy Action Shooting. The cylinders on the Vaquero's spin freely. The 32's will not spin. They do move about a half of turn. What can I do to get the 32's to spin?
Thanks for your help
Jack
 
Are your Vaqueros actually the mid-sized cylinder frame New Vaqueros or are they the older, larger framed Vaqueros?

Major difference within the lockworks.

flatgate
 
Sorry about the mix up. Mine are the New Vaquero's not the original ones. The 32's are the New Model Single Six's with a model number of 06515.
 
Ah, OK, that will make the answer to your query much simpler.

The New Vaquero is fitted with a "free spin" pawl, a concept initially developed by, IIRC, the custom gunsmiths to utilize on their "Large Calibre" revolvers. Some of the loads fired had/have a nasty habit of letting the seated bullet "creep" forward due to the robust recoil generated during firing.
A "long" cartridge, i.e. one that uses ALL available length of the cylinder's chambers, has little room for "bullet creep", i.e. the bullet slides forward, despite the roll crimp, and will soon be far enough forward that the bullet nose contacts the rear of the barrel when the cylinder is rotated. Bad news for "tense situations" :shock: Having the ability to open the loading gate and rotate the cylinder backwards will permit the shooter to eject the "over length" cartridges and replace them with "fresh" ones.

OK, fast forward to the introduction of the "New Vaquero". The Cowboy Action Shooters complained about the standard Ruger "New Model" lockwork and it's lack of a "click" when an unlocked cylinder's chamber is rotated into the loading recess/loading gate location. This makes rapid reloads a bit tricky. So, Ruger invented their "Reverse Indexing Pawl", a little spring and plunger assembly that permits the cylinder to "click" and be restrained from rotating backwards when the loading gate is open and the cylinder latch is retracted away from the cylinder. Now, if one thinks about the situation and the nuances of the New Model Lockwork there's no way the New Model cylinder's chambers will "line up" on the "click" of the pawl and ratchet assembly when the hammer is "at rest". The hammer has to be at "half cock" for the "click" to occur when the chamber aligns with the loading recess. Ah, but WBR did NOT want to use a half cock on the New Models. So, that's where the "Reverse Indexing Pawl" comes into play. It takes over the cylinder's indexing clicks during the reloading process BECAUSE the revolver's Pawl has been retracted and does NOT contact the ratchet. So, the pawl is indeed a "free spin" pawl. If one removes Ruger's Reverse Indexing Pawl the gun immediately emulates the Custom Gunsmith's Free Spin Cylinder feature!

I'm sure my description makes it seem more complicated that it really is. If one plays with these guns a bit the lockwork becomes "very clear". :D

flatgate

PS The New Model Single-Sixes do not have the "Reverse Indexing Pawl" feature.
 
I sent a new model single six 32 mag to Clements for refinishing and a new gate spring and now that it is back the cylinder spins freely in either direction when the gate is open.No click ect. However you can take your finger and stop the cylinder just right for loading or unloading???I do not know if he did something to it or not.I will have to

I did talk to Clements and he did make my ss 32 mag into a free spinner. I really like it.I can reach around with my finger and stop the cylinder just where i want it.
 
One can trim off some material off the tip of the New Model pawl's upper "tooth" and the cylinder will "free spin" when the loading gate is open.

Me? If I want half cock loading on a New Model I simply weld up the hammer and cut in a half cock notch. One must slim down the trigger and adjust things so the chambers line up just right when the hammer is in the "half cock" location. NOT AN EASY JOB for a homeboy gun butcher :D

flatgate
 

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