Ruger single action in 188x?

I'm thinking Pale Rider.


the only Eastwood western I've ever watched is The Unforgiven. Not a snob, just don't like drama. (I guess I actually am a snob?)
The Unforgiven was "Unforgettable," and apparently Eastwood is a genuine thinker, in the order of Reagan, Wayne, or McQueen. But enough of my politics.

However, yesterday's 1873 cleaning after 50 rounds of ACP (all loaded in 5's, such a sweet little shooter, too bad I'm also a magnum snob) reminded me that the cylinder swap idea may not be as practical as it seems. It's one thing to do it on a bench while drinking a diet Dr Pepper, and would be quite another whilst being shot at...and I know why some "shootists" would have two "five shooters."
 
Yes,,, it was Pale Rider where Eastwood had a few pouches on his belt with pre-loaded cylinders & used them "effectively."

And in Outlaw Josie Wales,, he carried at least (3) guns to facilitate the necessity of reloading, and being unarmed.

Two movies where the use of firearms was portrayed better than most.
A "Jose Wales" reload, New Yawk ain't got nuttin on him!
 
In a cartridge revolver, I’m not sure how well a spare cylinder would work. Would the cartridges stay in? In a cap and ball gun, sure. I understand the Confederate cavalry did that to keep weight down on horseback. A couple cylinders was lighter than another whole gun.
 
WW2 hero Audie Murphy was known to use a Ruger Blackhawk with the sights removed in some of his movies. I read this years ago, but I don't remember the reason the sights were removed.

CHEVYINLINE6.
Removing the front sight, or filing it down, was supposed to make it faster to draw. No clue if it was ever really done, but it was in all of the old Louis Lamour and Zane Grey books.
 
In the Wisconsin House on the Rock museum display there are (or were) a couple of revolvers having multiple cylinders somehow attached. I seem to recall there were three or four cylinders on a single frame, and they appeared to be quite well done. I have no idea if they actually functioned or not, but were certainly interesting. 😲
 
What is this thing, anyway. Obviously it is not real. The thing that holds it together looks like a Kiwi fruit or something like that ???
It is very real:

One such oddity was Joseph Enouy's patent, which pertained to a device that would be fixed to the underside of a transitional-type percussion revolver. The device consisted of eight revolver cylinders attached by spokes to a rotating wheel, itself fixed to a central axis that ran from the grip of the revolver to the end of the barrel. After a cylinder was depleted, unscrewing the axis could allow the user to disengage the frame of the revolver and manually turn the wheel to rotate a new cylinder into the revolver's frame. Only one such revolver was ever made, and it was unwieldy and heavy. Enouy also developed more practical two-cylinder revolvers that operated on a similar principle.

https://guns.fandom.com/wiki/Revolver#Unusual_revolvers
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The Great Train Robbery, or some such, credited as The First Western, the guy points the revolber at the camera and lets loose with 7, but it could be a moore's. Cat ballou shot that coffeecan seven times?
Eastwood switching cylinders was a cartridge-converted remington 1858 type.
 
For Westerns with lots of high capacity six shooters my fave is "Purgatory" with one of the best ending scenes... and quote.
 

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In a cartridge revolver, I'm not sure how well a spare cylinder would work. Would the cartridges stay in? In a cap and ball gun, sure. I understand the Confederate cavalry did that to keep weight down on horseback. A couple cylinders was lighter than another whole gun.
There are two type of revolvers, the single action (SA) and the double action ones (DA). I assume that most people know this difference, but basically if you do not, that the single action requires you to pull back the hammer for each and every shot. The double action just requires the pulling of the trigger, which in turn pulls the hammer back for you.

Given this, the single action revolvers have cylinders that come out easily after pulling the pin from the front that goes thru the center of the cylinder, and then just by pushing the cylinder out sideways. Also, with the single action revolver, the spent cartridges have to be ejected individually, while it is mounted in the gun. With double action revolvers, the cylinder does not come out unless you take the gun apart.

Given these differences, carrying extra cylinder with ammo already loaded makes some sense only with single action revolvers since the cylinder does not come out of DA revolvers. So, when it comes to being able to reload either these types of revolvers quickly varies greatly. With the single action revolvers, you would have to have carry spare cylinders already loaded, and just replace the cylinder, which would take about 30-45 seconds. But the big drawback here would be in ejecting the spent cartridges, with is really designed to be done only when the cylinder is mounted in the gun with the single channel ejector rod. I suppose you could eject these spent cartridges with an external cylinder, but it would take some time to eject them, and then reload it manually.

But to get back to the point at hand here, carrying extra loaded cylinders is feasible, but the concern of adding extra weight that a horse would notice is extremely marginal. I have both a .357 and a .45 Colt Ruger Blackhawks. The .45 Colt ammo is much bigger and if fully loaded (all 6 rounds), it weighs between 3-5 lbs., So if you have 5 extra fully loaded .45 Colt cylinders, it would come to 15-25 lbs, which is nothing on a horse that weighs about 1,200 lbs. (medium sized horse), and is already carrying 250-300 pounds, which would include the man, the saddle, and any extra bags with their internal material, such as ammo.

If DA revolvers are considered, then one only needs to carry auto loaders, which is essentially just the ammo in a very lightweight plastic housing that holds all the cartridges in the proper format that matches the cylinder perfectly, where you just pop out the cylinder to the side, while still attached to the gun, and align the auto loader and push all the cartridges in one motion. So, in this scenario, the extra weight would only be that of the ammo, and would not be noticeably different from just carrying the ammo on a gun belt or in a container. So, in this scenario, a DA revolver would be near ideal on horseback, where the unloading of the cylinder, and reloading via an auto loader would take 2-10 seconds.

I would have to guess that your original question was really in reference to single action revolvers, as these were used during the Wild West days back between 1865-1890.

Here is the history of the DA revolver: Robert Adams, a British gunsmith, patented the first successful semi-double-action revolver in 1851, but it took a long time for the DA version to take hold in the community. In 1889, Colt introduced the Model 1889, the first double action revolver with a "swing-out" cylinder (what is used today), as opposed to a "top-break" or "side-loading" cylinder.
 

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@vlavalle, probably need to do some work on the weights and historical accuracy to understand the relative benefits.

A .45 Colt cartridge weighs about an ounce (250 gr bullet plus casing and powder < 437.5 gr per ounce); a loaded cylinder is at most 1.5 lbs, but probably more like 1 lb.

There are top-break DA designs with quick release cylinders that are probably more appropriate to the 1880s than swing-out DA designs. Problem is more the delicate ejector mechanism is exposed when removed.

Tools for quickly loading DA revolvers were not practical to manufacture until the advent of aluminum and plastics. An iron design would weigh nearly as much as a revolver cylinder. Moon clips were invented around 1917 (they were licensed between the two major manufacturers of the 1917 revolver patterns).

Were there speed-loading options before 1900 other than spare cylinders for either SA or DA revolvers? Seems unlikely.
 
Not a revolver, but a couple of movies had characters with magazines mounted in a manner that allowed just pushing the handgun onto them. Of course the actors were firing with both hands and after missing every shot later made miraculously long range shots. Ahh, Hollywood.
 
Clint Eastwood didn't shoot more than 6 rds , but in one of his Dirty Harry movies, his .44 mag Model 29 magically changed from a 6 1/2" barrel to an 8 3/8".

Thirty years ago or so, I was chasing down the urban myth that Dirty Harry's gun was actually a Model 57 because the 29 wasn't available. The operator at S&W had put me through to Roy Jinks and he assured me that guns that were shipped for the movie were Model 29-2s. He went on to explain that the guns for the up the barrel shots (Ask yourself, "Do I feel lucky?") were 8 3/8" versions and for carry and long shots it was a 6 1/2" barrel. Also, a rubber dummy gun was used for most shots where the gun was just visible in the holster

BTW, one of the actual revolvers from the movie is at the NRA museum in Fairfax, Va.
 
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