Ok you recoil junkies

Nope and no desire to either.

I've always felt that there is nothing better than a high precision 22lr.

Bigger guns aren't better and quality can come in small calibers as well.

There's no Replacement for Displacement

Ahhhhhh, now we suffer greatly from the machoness of our yewt...........

J.

Well, I've fired on the order of several thousand .50 BMG through an M2, and several hundred 40mm rounds from a MK19 during my time in the Army. In addition I got to fire quite a few familiarization rounds through a Barrett . The hardest-kicking rifle I ever fired was a Lee-Enfield Jungle Carbine in .303. With the rounded brass buttplate it would put a hurting on you if you didn't shoulder it just right. I was probably 12 at the time.

Johnnu2 said:

Ahhhhhh, now we suffer greatly from the machoness of our yewt...........

J.

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Most of us were young once. And might even be clinging to what we have left in us.

Some years ago I bought a Remington 700 with synthetic stock in .375 Remington Ultra Mag at an estate sale
with a box and a half of 300 grain ammo. Had no use what so ever for it, shot up the left over ammo out of the
used box and parked it in the safe. Some years later sold it to a guy going on a hunt to Alaska.
That was the nastiest recoiling rifle I've fired, way worse then the .50 Barrett we shot last fall.

I shot a 22 Mag one time . It was just to much for me ,now I stick with 22 shorts and a muzzle break.

I just gotta ask....How big are those sqirrels you're trying to shoot with guns that size?
We have all seen men who can handle big bores with ease, and seems to search out those calibers to satisfy their own curiosity.
Then there are the "macho" guys who only shoot to prove something to other people.
I vastly respect the former shooters. I won't watch the latter. I do appreciate the members who gave their personal opinions above,
and I was somewhat surprised by the variety of unexpectly punishing guns (I had heard similar stories of the .375 and others).
That's why I enjoy reading a lot of these stories, there's so much good info that is different and useful.

As an aside, I found the 375 H & H pretty uncomfortable in my Sako Hunter. Much less than my 458 Win Mag in my Ruger Tropical M-77. Also shot 45-90 in a Sharps and an 1886 with no problems. No need or desire for more!

Hankus said:

Well, I've fired on the order of several thousand .50 BMG through an M2, and several hundred 40mm rounds from a MK19 during my time in the Army. In addition I got to fire quite a few familiarization rounds through a Barrett . The hardest-kicking rifle I ever fired was a Lee-Enfield Jungle Carbine in .303. With the rounded brass buttplate it would put a hurting on you if you didn't shoulder it just right. I was probably 12 at the time.

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I've always heard that the Lee-Enfield Jungle Carbine "kicked like a bastard," so your account reinforces the reputation.

At an FCSA .50BMG match, after the early morning shoot for score, attendees would bring out their other rifles for fun shooting during the afternoon (when the heat and wind was up). The absolute hardest kicking rifle I ever fired was owned by a guy who rebuilt M1A's. Hard steel butt plate, lightweight stock. I fired about ten rounds of .308 and had enough.

MaxMan said:

Why? I don't see the need for it as it is my understanding that substantially less can take the big 5 ( I guess) with good shot placement. Of course there is always the can it be done factor whichh I appreciate greatly

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Right. The Professional Hunters who are in control of their client's hunt and who typically have a decade or more of continuous experience in Africa have traditionally used .416 Rigby, .470 Nito Express, .458 Win (and Lott), among others. This is for stopping a charge from a dangerous animal that the client may have wounded or missed.

For the client, anything from 9.3x74R to .505 Gibbs should be sufficient, provided shot placement is good.

Part of my little collection of cartridges and cartridge books:

Wyandot Jim said:

I shot a 22 Mag one time . It was just to much for me ,now I stick with 22 shorts and a muzzle break.

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How did you break the muzzle? I've always had trouble doing that.

From shooting those HIGH power Mags.

turd said:

How did you break the muzzle? I've always had trouble doing that.

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Same thing here. If 22 mag is too much how can you have strength to break the muzzle. (Ok got my snark out for the year)

I drew the line at my 458 Winchester years ago with 510 grain factory ammo no one generally shoots it twice. I kept it because I can load it down to 45/70 trap door loads or anything in between.
I like my 400 grain loads about 1800 fps and even then you know you pulled the trigger.

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How did you break the muzzle? I've always had trouble doing that.

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It broke where the break was threaded on, those high powered rounds generated enough pressure to brake it....stress risers
you know.

I've heard grown men cry about shooting a LCP!!!

When guiding in Africa, I used the 375H&H regularly, but for the Buffalo it was my 416 Rigby if I was the primary. Easier to make a longer shot on a fleeing wounded animal. If I was backup, my Wesley Richards 475NE performed perfectly as a charge stopper.

I never saw any PH carry anything larger than one man who had a 505 Gibbs and a few 500NE. Most were 416 and 458 bolt guns and 475 doubles.