Topstrap drilled and tapped - OUCH as a collector piece. I like buying guns like that but they are project guns for conversions, not a collector gun but who knows. Maybe the guy is like me and buys because he likes the gun, not it's collector value.
rugerguy said:I have to agree with AZ Dan, the realm of "coins, cars, and firearms" are totally on a different plain, NO comparison in the least bit.......as he stated, the factory could NOPT get it right themselves, they redid over and over so many of their guns, , and some left the factory , some went to distributors only to be returned, and some made it into the hands of new owners and again, ONLY to be returned , redone........and ALL of these guns LOOK reblued, not even a nice job, put any in the hands of an 'expert" refinisher, and hear them tell you....yes, ONLY the Ruger collectors put a "premium" as well as "love" defective, 'seconds' in firearms.......a Colt ,Winchester or Parker, and on and on, would NOT give a" rats pituty" with one of them.
Besides the over laps in time and finishing problems has gone all over the spectrum with Ruger, and sorry Steve, the books CANNOT 'show or tell" you what its "supposed" to look like............high polish in Rugers is NOT "high polish LUSTRE, as in a S&W or such..........caveat emptor baby, I again say when anyone tells you , "its brand new, unfired, in the box....." you better know what you're getting into, and I do NOT care WHO is doing the selling, as AZ Dan says, look at 'RL Wilson'...................... :roll:
HAWKEYE#28 said:I remain "really tired" of hearing from or about those who did not or won't seek information found in "the books". I have postured "from the pulpit" and will continue to do so.I have the soft cover "know your Ruger single actions" 1953-1963"" for $19.00 Shipped(!) out of print and there are not any more..........."Old INFO" ABOUT OLD GUNS...........This beats buying drilled and tapped guns done by some SHADE TREE AUTO MECHANIC . Sorry, I am showing my impatience with those who choose not to read, but spend lots of money on their ignorance......Your turn.......... :roll:
rugerguy said:never said "what they are going for, I referred to the collectors of these guns, and how any of their firearms are finished in the first place, there is NO doubt what an original Colt,Winchester, or Parker ( and S&W'S) are going for as there are few if any that can replicate their FINE original finish, unlike many a Ruger in this case that may have left the factory after having been redone , gone over, rebuffed, polished and finished to cover flaws in the castings"
rugerguy said:People restore cars, restore guns, toys and trains, but NOT coins............
rugerguy said:i.e. "the plum" finish, None of these collectors are going to buy or 'savor" or fall in love with "plum" finishes and "seconds", they just don't do that...
rugerguy said:ONLY the very rare, and for the MOST part "uncirculated" ones are of any value, now of course, the metal itself has its own value ( weight) look at gold and silver.....you take a coin out of its "protected" plastic cae, and it becomes "handled" (circulated)??? I've seen and watched dealers ( buyers ) chastise 'sellers' for this, unlike just about any firearm that is handle, fondled, and as some folks suggest " EVERY GUN" is "proofed test fired",,,, then they are NOT "brand new, unfired, in the box...." (Commemeroratives may NOT be.......hhhmm....)
rugerguy said:Its when one does it to perpetrate a fraud or a hoax ( and in the case of RL Wilson, get caught), they should be punished, ................
rugerguy said:right on Radical, no need for a discourse on pure "BS"... love how one has the time to try and turn things around and not pay attention to what I even meant or said........
Chad you have NO friggen clue son.........wow
Colt,Smith and some of the others did NOT ship guns that came out looking like the Ruger, on the 'average'......... they SCRAPPED 'em
I worked at Dan Wesson, and I made NO comment as to them, as they too had "issues" and lots of RED /PLUM guns, and a bad reputation and lack of support, and collecting of these guns, tough sells back then due to this.
I don't have to win friends, influence people, nor sell books.............
I am tired of repeating myself and trying to compete with some smart A$$,snott nosed ,wet behind the ears, punk kid..........
and have 'lost' TOTAL respect for you.