Younger generation cannot sign their name!
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Contender mentioned 'block letters'. Years ago all the aviation 'gig sheets; etc were required to be 'printed' so they could be read and understood. Now everything is a hand held computer. All OK till the battery dies.
freakindawgen
Blackhawk
There is hope. My daily routine involves young people (most under 25). They have no clue of anything pre 90's. I was talking to a young lady the other day and saw 4 numbers tattooed on her arm. Told me that was her racecar number. 1971 Chevelle 4-SPEED RUNNING 10.7!!! Started out on Junior dragster. No track in Des Moines so she goes out of state racing. Warmed my heart to see some one that young keeping up and age old sport!
I learned cursive in school a million years ago. Never got very good with it. Accomplished a sorta-good signature.
Then I spent over thirty years on various drafting boards. Those who do this develop very distinctive "handwriting" consisting of "block letters" exclusively, and each drafter's "hand" is usually readily identifiable without checking the initials in the drawing's title block. Considerable pride is taken in this. As a result, my cursive abilities essentially faded out with the exception of my signature which has admittedly become essentially illegible. As mentioned by others, it's just three capitol letters followed by some scribbles . . . but I do "dot my i's and cross my t's".
I do write quite a few checks using my draftsman's "hand" but add the poor cursive signature on the sig line. Works fine.
Spending the last ten years of my career on CAD software has of course eliminated manual lettering, a great loss to the trade, IMHO.
Then I spent over thirty years on various drafting boards. Those who do this develop very distinctive "handwriting" consisting of "block letters" exclusively, and each drafter's "hand" is usually readily identifiable without checking the initials in the drawing's title block. Considerable pride is taken in this. As a result, my cursive abilities essentially faded out with the exception of my signature which has admittedly become essentially illegible. As mentioned by others, it's just three capitol letters followed by some scribbles . . . but I do "dot my i's and cross my t's".
I do write quite a few checks using my draftsman's "hand" but add the poor cursive signature on the sig line. Works fine.
Spending the last ten years of my career on CAD software has of course eliminated manual lettering, a great loss to the trade, IMHO.
Huskerguy72
Single-Sixer
I have what would be considered excellent penmanship but, like all things it is deteriorating with age.
My wife and I are both retired from education. She was helping some students in a class they missed. My wife said to get the notes from so and so student. So the student gets the notes and comes to my wife with like the next day and says, Mrs Brown can you help me read these? They were in cursive. That is a problem.
Cursive is coming back into schools. We know that teaching cursive is really good for the brain. Think about it, you have to think what the letter looks and the strokes it takes and then connect that to your hand and fingers. It activates areas in the brain that help with foreign languages, music and other things.
Sadly, it isn't used as much as it once was that doesn't mean it shouldn't be taught.
My wife and I are both retired from education. She was helping some students in a class they missed. My wife said to get the notes from so and so student. So the student gets the notes and comes to my wife with like the next day and says, Mrs Brown can you help me read these? They were in cursive. That is a problem.
Cursive is coming back into schools. We know that teaching cursive is really good for the brain. Think about it, you have to think what the letter looks and the strokes it takes and then connect that to your hand and fingers. It activates areas in the brain that help with foreign languages, music and other things.
Sadly, it isn't used as much as it once was that doesn't mean it shouldn't be taught.
I remember a Swedish immigrant mother you would communicate with her Swedish immigrant husband by writing in Swedish. The kids couldn't read or speak Swedish. Quite funny and effective.Many schools no longer teach cursive. Two problems with this. The one you have noted and their inability to read cursive. Progress
So, we can read and write in cursive AND read maps. We will have the upper hand in the next generational war!
Does anyone remember when we just called it "writing in script" instead of cursive?
Paul B
Hunter
Do college students still take notes during lecture classes? I have no idea how someone could keep up with the lecture if they were taking notes in block, print letters rather than cursive writing. But for all I know, maybe taking notes is considered too demanding of students today, and professors give up summary sheets after each lecture showing the students exactly what will appear on future tests.
If we assume the even at the college level students cannot write in script, that can be added to the reality that even college graduates seem totally ignorant when it comes to history, geography, spelling, how our government operates (civics), foreign languages (unless that language is spoken in the student's home) and of course, mathematics. (When a college educated barista at a coffee shop told me that the bill for my and my wife's coffee with $8.35 and I put down a $10, three $1's, and 35 cents in coins and told him that my change was $5, he clearly did not see the obvious. He had to enter this into his register and it clearly amazed him that what came up on his screen was that my change was exactly $5.)
If we assume the even at the college level students cannot write in script, that can be added to the reality that even college graduates seem totally ignorant when it comes to history, geography, spelling, how our government operates (civics), foreign languages (unless that language is spoken in the student's home) and of course, mathematics. (When a college educated barista at a coffee shop told me that the bill for my and my wife's coffee with $8.35 and I put down a $10, three $1's, and 35 cents in coins and told him that my change was $5, he clearly did not see the obvious. He had to enter this into his register and it clearly amazed him that what came up on his screen was that my change was exactly $5.)
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Some of you may recall the trouble I had in a recent ancestral search. Due in no small part to the cursive writing used by the clerk. So I am no fan of cursive. I print everything in all capital letters except for checks and my signature. My writing was heavily influenced by technical drawings I was fascinated with.
But everyone needs a signature. Or at least a repeatable scribble.
But everyone needs a signature. Or at least a repeatable scribble.
I'm 50 and have never driven one.
Don't know if I can or can't, I'm betting on can't.
Growing up, no one had one in the family, friends all had automatics, etc.
Never saw the positives, Im sure driving enthusiasts see it differently.
I just wanna get in my truck and do the least possible stuff to get from A to B.
When I took drivers ed (required to get just the totally out of the park male teenage driver rate with the insurance) Everyone had to drive the stick car. As a young drive my first 4 cars were stick.
Gotta LOVE that girl whose car turns the quarter in 10.7.
Can't tell you how many times that I've signed/scribbled "Clark Kent" when electronically signing a credit card thingie (or other); NEVER had a problem with acceptance....
J.
Can't tell you how many times that I've signed/scribbled "Clark Kent" when electronically signing a credit card thingie (or other); NEVER had a problem with acceptance....
J.
contender
Ruger Guru
Just this evening,, Miss Penny & I went to the local restaurant like we do most friday evenings. We are well known to all of them there. One young lady there,, sweet as she can be, hard working, recently married (8/3/24) who also has a 3 year old son. She's also in nursing school.
She took our order after we'd spent a few minutes socializing.
Once she finished writing it,, I politely asked her if I could see her ticket. Partial printing, and partial cursive. AND it was very legible!!!!!!
I then explained how we are discussing cursive writing here, and she commented that she uses both a lot. Printing & cursive.
Made me like this young lady just a little bit more than we already did. And we truly do like her a LOT!
Miss Penny just chuckled at our exchange. But this young lady knows we are always concerned with her well being & how she's progressing in schooling & such.
She took our order after we'd spent a few minutes socializing.
Once she finished writing it,, I politely asked her if I could see her ticket. Partial printing, and partial cursive. AND it was very legible!!!!!!
I then explained how we are discussing cursive writing here, and she commented that she uses both a lot. Printing & cursive.
Made me like this young lady just a little bit more than we already did. And we truly do like her a LOT!
Miss Penny just chuckled at our exchange. But this young lady knows we are always concerned with her well being & how she's progressing in schooling & such.
GasGuzzler
Hawkeye
My Mom calls it just plain "writing" or "hand writing", not cursive. To her there is two choices, printing (block letters lower and upper case) and writing (cursive).
Yes, on a tablet or laptop where all their other work is done. No need to write by hand.
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My daughter, who is in college, uses voice to text software to actually transcribe the lecture. Then she just follows along and highlights or corrects things.
Hell, the last time I took notes (while meeting with a potential client), my handwriting was so bad that I had a hard time deciphering what I was writing on a couple of items.
JackBull
Hunter
How is anything electronic secure?
JackBull
Hunter
For this that do not think we need to be able to write, do you think we should not be able to do common math calculations by hand also? What about counting change?
Bad guys cannot clone your palm print, they cannot use RFID to steal your palm print, and they cannot install a skimmer. Ultimately, your palm print is not electronic, so I stand by my statement.
I had a friend who passed away a few years ago who was involved with a cell technology company that made phone upgrades for command level military types with retina, fingerprint (with pulse detection) and voice verification which was cleared somehow through overhead AWACS before passing a call on to the recipient.
Communication can be secured, it's only a matter of how much it cost.
Communication can be secured, it's only a matter of how much it cost.
Gun Hawk
Bearcat
If you can't read cursive how can you read the Constitution or the Bill of Rights?
Easy they rely on others to "interpret it" for them.
Just googled it.
Easy to read on my screen in nice clean font.
No cursive interpreter required
