Yellowstone...oh come on !!!!!

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Watching Yellowstone today and Costner and his son, were riding in a pick up when they spot a cow down in a field. The cow is in labor and it's a breach. So the younger guy reaches inside and gets a leg an pulls the calf out. They had a puller but didn't use it. He managed to pull the breached calf out by himself.

But, the instant he yanked that calf out, it jumped up and took off running. What a crock! That same instant the mother jumped up and took off too. Are we really supposed to believe that?

Hey Rancher Will, did you see that?
 
NOTE: go to Yellowstone webcam. You can watch old faithful or other places in the park. Under the picture it gives the @ time old faithful will erupt. I like to watch. greg
 
gregs45auto said:
NOTE: go to Yellowstone webcam. You can watch old faithful or other places in the park. Under the picture it gives the @ time old faithful will erupt. I like to watch. greg
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I remember on "Fractured Fairy Tales" there was a cartoon with a spoof of Yellowstone park. There was a geyser that was called Old Facefull. The idiots would stand there looking down the hole waiting for it to erupt and well...you can imagine the rest. :mrgreen: Cartoons for kids were great back then.
 
Saw about 10 minutes of it and checked out. Same old Hollywood plot/propaganda -- pure enviro/cowboy/good guys vs evil developers/wealthy/bad guys -- done to death ad nauseum already. But the agitprop line is set and there is no bucking it.

wunbe
 
FYI
I consider a calf puller as the last resort and don't like to use them unless I can't pull a calf manually. Lots of calves and cows injured by overzealous or improper use of "the ratchet".
As for a true "breach birth", the calf must be re-positioned which often takes a fair amount of time.
While it's common for the heifer/cow to "jump up" immediately or very soon after birthing, it DOES NOT HAPPEN with the calf. In the case of a difficult birth, the calf may be stressed by lack of blood flow and/or oxygen and take quite some time to even stand.
 
Costner, who tried to put a $100 million resort on Black Hills land complete with golf course and train. He's no friend to the Indians or the land.
 
We watched it and while we did like parts of it the dirty vulgar language and porn lowered my respect for all the actors in it. That has no place where kids can tune in.
 
Read the plot, saw the stars listed, didn't bother.

As to reality of manually removing a breach calf. Remember, it's TV. From the kid who helped deliver more than a few calves.
 
Mobuck said:
FYI
I consider a calf puller as the last resort and don't like to use them unless I can't pull a calf manually. Lots of calves and cows injured by overzealous or improper use of "the ratchet".
As for a true "breach birth", the calf must be re-positioned which often takes a fair amount of time.
While it's common for the heifer/cow to "jump up" immediately or very soon after birthing, it DOES NOT HAPPEN with the calf. In the case of a difficult birth, the calf may be stressed by lack of blood flow and/or oxygen and take quite some time to even stand.
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^^^^^^
This.
 
wolfsong said:
Mobuck said:
FYI
I consider a calf puller as the last resort and don't like to use them unless I can't pull a calf manually. Lots of calves and cows injured by overzealous or improper use of "the ratchet".
As for a true "breach birth", the calf must be re-positioned which often takes a fair amount of time.
While it's common for the heifer/cow to "jump up" immediately or very soon after birthing, it DOES NOT HAPPEN with the calf. In the case of a difficult birth, the calf may be stressed by lack of blood flow and/or oxygen and take quite some time to even stand.
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^^^^^^
This.
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But this guy didn't even get a chain around a hoof. It only took him about 30 seconds to reach in there and yank that calf out with one hand. Quite a feat.

I've never seen a live calf birth but I've seen a lot of them on the Vet shows on TV and it just ain't that easy.
 
"I've never seen a live calf birth but I've seen a lot of them on the Vet shows on TV and it just ain't that easy."

Yes, you are absolutely correct, it's not that easy. If it were that easy, momma would already have succeeded. In some cases, it may be as simple as getting legs properly positioned but doing that isn't easy, either. It's hard to understand the strength of the "calf expulsion muscles" in play during uterine contractions. Any re-positioning usually requires working between those contractions or working against them.
The "scene" described is the usual video drama version of real life with all the "heroic effort" but minus the sweat, tears, and rolling in manure of real life.
 
My Veterinarian gave me some advice many years ago. If the calf is breach, put your hand in there and make sure the tail is not pointed up. Pull the calf’s tail down then hook the chains up to the calf and puller and snug it up with the ratchet. Hopefully the cow is laying on her side, start pulling the end of the puller like you are going to pull it between her legs toward her belly. Usually the calf will pop right out.
 
clintsfolly said:
Wow hey people it Tv not a how to video. Is supposed to entertain and relax you.
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Well, it's just the fact that they try to portray something they know nothing about.
Someone knew enough to show them with a calf puller so you would think they knew a little bit about it. It's like they just figured, "we don't have time to do it right but the viewing idiots won't know it's wrong anyway". I guess they just lump us in with the deplorables.

They didn't relax me. So they failed.
 
Reminds me of the one where the two traveling salesmen came along as a farmer was trying to pull a calf out. he said if you guys help, I'll buy whatever you are selling. After all was done and the salesmen were walking to their car one looked at the other and said " How fast do you think that calf was running when it hit that cow in the butt".

I'll watch Yellowstone again tonight. It had a few good moments and scenes. Jury still not out.
 
Watched it again last night. Seen the usual impossible explosion by a single rifle bullet.
I have a hard time understanding the relationships of the actors in the show. Maybe just me as I am very hard of hearing. It`s entertainment, we don't have kids watching so have stayed with it. I guess shame on us.
 
bogus bill said:
Watched it again last night. Seen the usual impossible explosion by a single rifle bullet.
I have a hard time understanding the relationships of the actors in the show. Maybe just me as I am very hard of hearing. It`s entertainment, we don't have kids watching so have stayed with it. I guess shame on us.
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Ditto.
 
They went to BloodThirstyBizzarroLand on the last one. It makes the story writing so much easier.
 
I watched episode three just now and I'm officially done with it. I don't understand this show. There are no good guys and bad guys, they are all bad guys. It jumps around so much I can't figure out who is who and who is trying to screw over who.

I need a synopsis or program like they have at operas to tell you who is who and what they are doing. It's just such a long time between shows that I forget all that. Just at the end of this episode someone shot themselves in the one sons trailer home and I don't even know who it was.

It's just not worth my time. It's officially off my DVR list. About the only thing I liked in the show was Beth. At least she was good to look at.
 
In their defense, about the only way to do an authentic calf birthing scene would be with an authentic calf birthing. Once a calf is old enough to be used for such a scene, they're like a BB in a can. Plus your average viewer won't know the difference either way.

My biggest issue is that the estranged son goes around shooting folks all over the place. If he had not executed the Indian that killed his brother, it would've been a legal shoot. Putting the guy out of his misery after the trailer exploded was just dumb. The whole thing with the guys and girl in the van was just random and unnecessary, over the top with the rattlesnake in the culvert.

Costner is definitely your "good guy" but in a more realistic, anti-hero kinda way. He's ruthless but his intentions are better than those who oppose him. As much as I sympathize with the American Indian perspective, I'm tired of the apologetic tone. The developer is stereotypical but the new chief is evil and truly hates the people he's trying to destroy. It's interesting and I'll keep watching it but it's not exactly what I expected.
 
clintsfolly said:
Wow hey people it Tv not a how to video. Is supposed to entertain and relax you.
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Sounds like CNN. It's entertaining to watch because you know darn well no one is using facts, can't vouch for the relaxing part. Tried watching it, but then I found out that another network has reruns of Gunsmoke on at the same time, it's between that and Fututama, I like to mix it up.
 
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