Wow new rifle caliber from Ruger

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Sam Summey

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The Ruger American Rifle GO Wild® family welcomes the 7mm Precision Rifle Cartridge (7mm PRC), to its lineup. The 7mm PRC is a magnum-length cartridge that feeds smoothly from the 3-round magazine even with its long, heavy-for-caliber 180 gr. bullets. This new rifle's 24" cold hammer-forged barrel features 5R rifling with 1:8" twist to properly stabilize bullets. Weighing just over 7 lbs. and capped with Ruger's radial port muzzle brake, this high-performance rifle is attractive and comfortable to shoot. The only possible manufacturer for ammunition is Hornady. I project ammunition will not be commonly available any time soon. Another new caliber to further the ammunition backlog.
 

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It will probably enjoy some support from the 'newer is better' crowd. I saw the results from a 300PRC in New Mexico. While it was impressive, the cost of the platform required to properly utilize the cartridge's potential is prohibitive to many users.
 
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The Ruger American Rifle GO Wild® family welcomes the 7mm Precision Rifle Cartridge (7mm PRC), to its lineup. The 7mm PRC is a magnum-length cartridge that feeds smoothly from the 3-round magazine even with its long, heavy-for-caliber 180 gr. bullets. This new rifle's 24" cold hammer-forged barrel features 5R rifling with 1:8" twist to properly stabilize bullets. Weighing just over 7 lbs. and capped with Ruger's radial port muzzle brake, this high-performance rifle is attractive and comfortable to shoot. The only possible manufacturer for ammunition is Hornady. I project ammunition will not be commonly available any time soon. Another new caliber to further the ammunition backlog.
I just wanted to say "Hi". I recognized your name just now, but I didn't know that you were a member here. I sold a rifle to Contender and you were the FFL that I shipped to after talking with you.
 

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"Pardon me for failing to understand, but how would properly utilizing this cartridge's potential cost any more than many other cartridges currently available?"
The rifle on which I based my comments cost more than the pickup I drive for work. The scope alone cost $3000-3500.
What I'm saying is: In order to fully utilize the potential of these super long range cartridges, you're not talking about a $500-600 rifle and a $200 scope. Putting something like the 7mm or 300 PRC in a reasonably priced rifle gains NOTHING over a common cartridge like the 300 Win mag--you still end up with a 400 yard rifle.
 

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I got ya Mobuck, the rifle you saw in action. But some of those same enhancements will pick up the game of most any modern cartridge, including the 300 Winchester. OTOH the PRC does have it's own attributes & not just a velocity increase. If you don't have brass or dies for either, there's no downside to the PRC. One might say ammo or case availability, but with the supply chains we've seen the last couple years I wouldn't bet on either.

Yes, rifles costing as much as a decent used truck are readily available, but not necessary. And same for scopes. If ya have the coin, go for it. But thousands of competitors, long range plinkers etc., using much less costly rifles & scopes with good success. With that in mind, it doesn't cost a dime extra to chamber a PRC over a Win Mag, the PRC takes up no more space in the gun & offers the benefit of modern/enhanced case design.

That rifle you mention, must be one heck of a rig.
 

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"That rifle you mention, must be one heck of a rig."
Yes, it belonged to one of the guides at the New Mexico ranch where we hunted last month. After determining they could not get within range of Grandson's 7mm08, they braced up the 300PRC, dialed in the range on the compensating scope, and Grandson killed his elk with one shot @ 494 yards. I wasn't too thrilled about that but it wasn't my call.
 

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If the Elk went down with one shot, then I'd consider it an ethical kill.

Better hunting/stalking may not have produced a better shot.

And... a 5 figure scope to start with? Yeah, right ;)
 

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"That rifle you mention, must be one heck of a rig."
Yes, it belonged to one of the guides at the New Mexico ranch where we hunted last month. After determining they could not get within range of Grandson's 7mm08, they braced up the 300PRC, dialed in the range on the compensating scope, and Grandson killed his elk with one shot @ 494 yards. I wasn't too thrilled about that but it wasn't my call.
7mm08 should be able to make a 494 yard one shot kill on an elk. I assume GS was using a 150-175ish bullet in the 7mm08. I know of an outfitter that uses a 25.06 on elk. The magic is in the shooter, the rifle's accuracy, and the marksmanship wind doping and range estimating
skill. All that electronic gadgetry just takes the rifleman's skill out of the equation.
 

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Well, I have commented on running ballistics on JBM’s platform, custom barrels, and higher-end scopes. These longer range cartridges are designed to shoot longer, high BC bullets. Shot through a faster twist bbl, long enough to burn all the powder and you get highly accurate long range rifles. But now you have to have optics that match the rifles potential. This is where turret repeatablity, a usable reticle, quality glass and built to standup to the recoil of some of these larger cartridges. Its easy to look up and have a chunk of money in a good long range rig but thats no different than Bass Boats, Race Cars, or collecting OM Rugers!! 😁
 

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Well depending on where you hunt using a scope to achieve the desired results of accuracy is what it is. I have some fairly expensive scopes and I have shot animals at almost 700 yards and with some of these newer caliber rifles and ranges they are capable of you can't use cheap scopes. But I also don't want too load for another caliber, but I won't say I wouldn't entertain it LOL.
 

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As long as the people believe they need the latest super ultra maxi magnum to hunt white tail and the latest mini-max is needed for small game, these new cartridges will keep coming. Some just re-hased variations of existing cartridges long considered obsolite or inadequate. Those 30-30's - barely adequte for anything above a rabbit to many. That 308...maybe for a small deer within 25 yards.
Not much different than anything now. Look at vehciles. People think they need the biggest baddest super charged vehcile to commute to work and get groceries. It's an image thing.
 

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As long as the people believe they need the latest super ultra maxi magnum to hunt white tail and the latest mini-max is needed for small game, these new cartridges will keep coming. Some just re-hased variations of existing cartridges long considered obsolite or inadequate. Those 30-30's - barely adequte for anything above a rabbit to many. That 308...maybe for a small deer within 25 yards.
Not much different than anything now. Look at vehciles. People think they need the biggest baddest super charged vehcile to commute to work and get groceries. It's an image thing.

Using that logic, anyone using a gun, over a bow and arrow or a slingshot, is just as guilty.

It's not a need thing, it's a want.

For vehicles, having to drive around some 100 HP FWD crapbox would suck, it's mundane and like being in a sensory deprivation tank. Driving is a lot more entertaining & engaging when you have a 450 HP AWD Station Wagon. It's nothing to do with image (at least for the many people that I know that have cars with personality), it's the rush you get from seeing it, listening to it and driving it.
 
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