Will Ruger follow S&W ???

[Buckeye!]

Now that S&W has came out with a 5 shot 44 Mag. built on a L frame..will Ruger trust the strength of the GP100 and do the same ?

Taurus has had a 44 mag. in a Med frame for several years. ( I have a Rossi 44 Mag..Med Frame)

Model 69

 

[Jim Puke]

No...Ruger dances to their own drummer....and sometimes he is an idiot.

Besides, Smith and Wesson owns the DA revolver market and it will be a better move for them than it would be for Ruger.

 

[Chuck 100 yd]

Looking at the photos in the Shooting Times magazine that S&W cylinder looks mighty thin. Can you say "thinner than hammered fly poop" ?
Ruger seems to like em a little heavier and so do I.

 

[Buckeye!]

Well if Ruger will not build a 5 Shot 44 Mag on there GP100 Frame ..maybe they will build a 44 Spl...

Like my Rossi 720 44 Spl.3inch barrel DAO ..built on a "D" size frame ..its a five shooter

Or my Charter Bulldog...44 Spl. frame a bit more than a J frame 21 oz..its a 44 Spl .5 Shooter

Now this Rossi 44 Mag is built on a Med frame..its a 5 shooter

I just think it would be nice to have a GP100 big bore snubbie (3inch barrel)

 

[win1894s]

Ruger should come out with 480 blackhawk. Those would sell!

 

[chet15]

No...Ruger dances to their own drummer....and sometimes he is an idiot.

Huh?

Besides, Smith and Wesson owns the DA revolver market....

Are you sure about that? With the serial numbering I've seen on Ruger's DA's (something I keep track of), I wouldn't say S&W owns the DA market. Ruger has at least a huge chunk of it as well.
Haven't seen the latest DA totals for S&W and Ruger for the last couple years in Shooting Industry Magazine, but I would think Ruger would at least hold a very close 2nd in that category.
Chet15

 

[Jim Puke]

No...Ruger dances to their own drummer....and sometimes he is an idiot.

Huh?

Besides, Smith and Wesson owns the DA revolver market....

Are you sure about that? With the serial numbering I've seen on Ruger's DA's (something I keep track of), I wouldn't say S&W owns the DA market. Ruger has at least a huge chunk of it as well.
Haven't seen the latest DA totals for S&W and Ruger for the last couple years in Shooting Industry Magazine, but I would think Ruger would at least hold a very close 2nd in that category.
Chet15

When one considers how long it took Ruger to come up with competitive concealed carry offerings...I think they were definitely LATE to the dance.

I am secure in stating that, of the quality DA revolvers made(meaning no Taurus/Rossi) Smith and Wesson owns a sizeable edge in the market...that they have had since forever and will not likely surrender anytime soon. However, I will concede that you know the numbers better than I do. So, I have no problem being proven wrong by your posting the numbers for each.

 

[41 Magnum]

I'd way sooner have it in a .41 Mag. !!!!! 8) 8) 8) 8)

 

[Buckeye!]

With the return of the M66 & M65 ..the new 9mm Revolvers not to mention the M69 ..S&W should pull ahead ..if not further in the lead...Ruger makes fine DA revolvers.....there is no doubt ..most , more ..those words do not add up to quality...
\But back to the subject..GP100 in 44 somthin' would be nice..Special if not Magnum..

Maybe a GP100 in 45 Colt ...dare say !!!

Or 10mm/ 40 S&W

 

[protoolman]

I wouldn't say Ruger was late to offering competetive concealed carry options. Ruger was way out front. Ruger was years ahead of Smith with the 5 shot .357J frame type Sp-101. I'm pretty sure they still outsell the J frame Smith .357 by at least 10 to one. A .44 GP-100 would be nice but I'm not sure how it would sell.

 

[Buckeye!]

SP101 is a tank ,in the small revolver world .....

 

[mike7mm08]

Was surprised by the five shot smith. If your going to down size a 44 mag you think they would of went all the way to a concealed carry type piece. Load it with specials for two legged animals and 44 mag for four legged ones.If Ruger goes a five shot 44 anything I would like to see a 44 special. Up size the LCR,upgrade the sights and give me five rounds of 44 special. Been wanting a 44 special but the only option at a reasonable price is Charter. Handled a few of them and everyone has had some kind of issue that put me off. Quality control seems very lacking.

 

[MaxP]

I would say it's doubtful.

 

[woods-walker]

I would like to see the GP-100 offered in .44 Special and/or .45acp.

 

[Rclark]

But really what really is the point? From my point of view there is the .45 Colt/.44 Spec/.44 Mag SA revolvers for woods guns which don't need to be concealed. For those that like DA revolvers in big-bore there is the Redhawk line for woods guns. .44Mag certainly isn't necessary for 'around town' CC and we have the .44 Special Bulldog for that niche. If anything, it would be nice if Ruger had a Bulldog size .44Special/.45 Colt. Of course if they made it 'polymer/plastic' I wouldn't be interested..... Aren't we a finicky bunch .

 

[stevemb]

I also vote for a .480 BH !

 

[CraigC]

I wouldn't venture to guess but Ruger does need a big bore DA that is between the GP and Redhawk. Which, incidentally, is an N-frame.

No...Ruger dances to their own drummer....and sometimes he is an idiot.

Really? Is that why they've turned a profit every year since inception, operate on cash and have no debt???

 

[MaxP]

Really? Is that why they've turned a profit every year since inception, operate on cash and have no debt???

Terrible business model. :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

 

[whichwatch]

Ruger should come out with 480 blackhawk. Those would sell!

Could not agree more. My Super Blackhawk will kill anything I ever intend to hunt with it but having a SBH in .480 would sure be nice.
Why?? Just because!!

 

[Rclark]

.480 .... Why?? Just because!!

That would about the 'only' reason all right . When you already have the .45 Colt as the do all cartridge .

Terrible business model.

Yeah, debt free and profitable is certainly 'bad' . Well actually in today's world high 'profits' and debt free companies are thought of 'bad' by a certain segment of our population .

 

[MaxP]

Ruger will not build a .480 Blackhawk.

However, a number of gunsmiths I know will -- just like this:

It is a great combination! :mrgreen:

 

[Thel]

Doubt they would see a large market, at least in .44 Sp and .45 Colt. They are sort of niche cartridges that appeal to a select few (including me). As for "woods guns" I would prefer a relatively light weight large caliber which the Redhawk is not a a bit less bulky, too. This is where I see a hot loaded .44 Sp or even more ideally a .44 mag. I do not see this as a hunting gun, per se, but more if you run into something that you would rather not have. I think whether they will do it or not depends upon how their production is set up and whether they are already at full capacity or not.

 

[dougader]

Ruger will not build a .480 Blackhawk.

However, a number of gunsmiths I know will -- just like this:

It is a great combination! :mrgreen:

Love that one, Max! 8)

 

[jjmIII_Ruger]

Really great picture. Looks like a Hot Rod!

 

[Buckeye!]

Really? Is that why they've turned a profit every year since inception, operate on cash and have no debt???

Terrible business model. :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

Thats UnAmerican...no Debt...thats old school ..to be successful ..you have to be owned by Japan ..and your product has to be produced in China !!

 

[dbarale]

Maybe a GP100 in 45 Colt ...dare say !!!

Or 10mm/ 40 S&W

Yes please!

 

[eveled]

I wouldn't say Ruger was late to offering competetive concealed carry options. Ruger was way out front. Ruger was years ahead of Smith with the 5 shot .357J frame type Sp-101. I'm pretty sure they still outsell the J frame Smith .357 by at least 10 to one. A .44 GP-100 would be nice but I'm not sure how it would sell.

The Jframe came out in 1950. The model 60 was the first stainless steel production revolver ever, in 1965. I'd say Ruger was following them. Even if they did make a .357 first. Ruger really didn't have that many original ideas, just made them in an affordable manner. Like Ford didn't invent the car, but made it affordable. Ed

 

[k22fan]

What hasn’t been mentioned in this thread is trigger reach. The N frame’s long trigger reach impedes effective DA accuracy for most people. Ruger on the other hand built their largest revolvers with short trigger reach so perhaps only half as many of their DA shooters would benefit from a big bore in the smaller frame.

If a larger bored GP100 is introduced regardless of the caliber I’d buy one or more, but I’m an easy sale.

 

[chapped lips]

Maybe a GP100 in 45 Colt ...dare say !!!

Or 10mm/ 40 S&W

Yes please!

45 Colt for me.

 

[chapped lips]

Or 45 Win Mag