TV Police Drama..

[Bob Wright]

We were watching an episode of "In the Heat of The Night" starring Carroll O'Conner (and Stella Stevens) and they, the chief of police and his aides, were examining Stella Stevens body in the morgue.

One of them spoke up. "Shotgun slugs from an over under shotgun."

WHAT PERCEPTION!


Bob Wright

 

[daveg.inkc]

I just watched Robert Duvall in “Open Range” level a man with a shotgun. Nasty weapon.

 

[coach]

As opposed to a pump or semi-auto? I always marvel when the medical examiner on the scene says it looks like a 9 mm slug. :roll:

 

[Bob Wright]

I don't remember the source, but a medical examiner:

Police officer: "What can you tell about the time of death?"

Medical examiner: "Some time between the time the last person who saw him alive and the time we found the body."


Bob Wright

 

[Chief 101]

I saw that and personally all indications were that the shots came from an old Mossberg with a Polychoke in 12 gauge 3" #2's. I think they had it wrong...wish they would do their homework...

 

[Fox Mike]

As opposed to a pump or semi-auto? I always marvel when the medical examiner on the scene says it looks like a 9 mm slug. :roll:

Just like the western doc says "Looks like it came from a 44-40." Calibrated eyeballs.

 

[steveodtw]

As opposed to a pump or semi-auto? I always marvel when the medical examiner on the scene says it looks like a 9 mm slug. :roll:

Yep. Definitely not .38 Special or .357 Magnum. or .380 auto. Good eye ME.

 

[bobski]

looks like the guy shooting at him ran out of bullets, so he thru the gun at him, striking him in the head killing him, to me...........

 

[blume357]

Watch old movies, especially some of the British ones... they will often say 'Revolver' and it is a semi-auto.

 

[Mobuck]

A neighbor called me one day to come and look at a dead cow. He thought she'd been shot but wanted my opinion before calling the Sheriff. I drove to his house and we went to "the scene of the crime". I took notice that it was quite a distance from anywhere that someone might have taken a shot w/o driving out in the field and there weren't any extra tracks at the gate where we entered.
A cursory exam revealed a "large caliber" hole in the cow's neck and a significant amount of blood scattered about the area next to the hay bale that the neighbor confirmed he'd set out the evening before. Upon rolling the stiff carcass over by means of a tow strap hooked to the pickup, I found a similar "large caliber" hole on the opposite side of the cow's neck. The hide was removed from that section of the cow's neck and although I didn't find what I'd consider "bullet wound" sort of damage something had sure as heck punctured the cow. Studying the area and thinking back to something I'd noticed in the guy's driveway, I asked candidly "What did you use to set out the bale of hay last evening?" Neighbor responded "The Ford tractor sitting in the driveway. Why?".
We drove back to the house and I examined the 4' long bale spear on the back of the Ford tractor. "Crime" solved. Based on the "evidence" visible on the very pointy steel shaft, the guy had backed into his own cow while turning around in the near darkness pinning her to the 1200# bale and forcing the point through her neck. This just goes to show that "external evidence" in and of itself is often mistaken.
Guess I should have sent the county a bill for what I saved in investigation costs.

 

[Ale-8(1)]

Did you then don your designer sunglasses and offer up a pithy comment before strolling off into the sunset? (Horatio Caine)

:lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[toysoldier]

Long years ago, an opthamologist showed me an X-ray of a guy's skull, with a bullet lodged at the back of the orbit. The story the patient gave was that he was in his car, at 7:30 in the morning, with a revolver. He thought the cylinder wasn't lining up, and looked down the barrel while pulling the trigger. Whatever. I told the doc that it looked like a .38 lead slug, probably from a very old and near-dud cartridge.

 

[bogus bill]

I worked with a old friend that was a homicide detective. He said his partner got shot through his torso
with a .22. He drove him to the hospital and all that he needed was band aids front and back and they left!
He said the bullet missed his vitals! Still, he claimed usually a .22 is the worst to get shot with as usually if
you get hit in the rib cage the 22 bullet will rickashay back and forth rib to rib tearing everything up badly.

 

[caryc]

Watch old movies, especially some of the British ones... they will often say 'Revolver' and it is a semi-auto.

Yep, I remember seeing an old horror movie with Vincent Price. He was showing someone the murder weapon and opened his hand and said "this tiny revolver..."

Looked like a little .25 auto to me.

 

[caryc]

I worked with a old friend that was a homicide detective. He said his partner got shot through his torso
with a .22. He drove him to the hospital and all that he needed was band aids front and back and they left!
He said the bullet missed his vitals! Still, he claimed usually a .22 is the worst to get shot with as usually if
you get hit in the rib cage the 22 bullet will rickashay back and forth rib to rib tearing everything up badly.

I worked with a guy that shot himself in the thigh trying a fast draw. It was through and through but the exit was about six or seven inches below the entrance. He said the most painful thing was when the doctors took a flexible shaft with a brush on it like a gun cleaning rod and rammed it through the wound. I think the shaft was powered so the brush turned through the would.

No band-aids there.

Didn't they do anything to clean the wound of the guy with the .22 wound before they used the two band-aids?

 

[bogus bill]

I dont know it`s been about 50 years ago since he told me the story and he was old then. "Mac" had worked
Indianapolis pd from the late 1930`s or early 40`s to the late 1960`s.

 

[kmoore]

What I have learned is when police are dispatched to investigate a crime or possible crime, if the caller is there to meet you. They all have their stories or theories of how the bad guy did this or that. Many times the person who they found dead was shot, the animal they found dead was poached. When in fact is was a drug OD or a vehicle hit the deer. With animals the person might be able to stand around a look at your investigation. Often after a few minutes it ends like this. Police: The animal was struck by a vehicle on the road and died here on your property. Citizen: Well how do you know all that. We hear shooting all the time and it was shot by the SOBs that live down the road. Police: Well you see the blood, skid marks on the road. The blood trail leads to the body and the wounds are not gun shot wounds.
It is normal for people to try and put the pieces together and form some type of bad guy did this event. They form opinions based on TV, movies' which are just plain wrong, not facts. Even when facts were under their feet. They just do not see them.
Mobuck's story, I found to be so true. Since I and my co workers dealt with that type of issue. What kind of pissed me off is after they hear the real story, using real evidence. Some would still argue their story.
But, how to you convince the kindly person reporting some poacher shot and killed a hawk on her property. And when she lead me to the scene of the crime. It was a drake mallard duck struck by a vehicle near the road. In my case I carried the duck over to her and said. "Mam, look at it. It has a duck bill and webbed feet".

 

[bogus bill]

"Mac" the old cop I wrote about above, also told me he had a number of cases where the family that found
a hung relative wanted to claim it was murder as the feet could touch the ground. He had to try and convince
them that the rope stretched after days of the body pulling on it.

 

[coach]

After watching CSI many people seem to think that a cause of death, type of weapon or sequence of events can always be determined. Other times I suppose emotions may get in the way of logic.