Trigger ppull

wingnuut

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got my new lyman digitaltrigger weight pull,my new sig target with match trigger ect 5.29 lbs. my new sr1911 4.15 lbs. how about that at half the price wow!!
 
There's more than just weight involved in a good trigger.

Takeup, creep, grittiness, crispness, after-travel, etc etc. I'd be willing to bet that Sig has a better trigger, even if it's a pound heavier ... only because it's advertised as a match trigger, which in theory 'should' mean they spent a little extra time on it. On the other hand, ANY bone stock 1911 (of any brand) trigger can hit it right with all the variables and be spectacular out of the box. If you got 4.15 pounds AND all the other variables are great, then you lucked out and got one that just happened to fall together correctly right out of the parts bins.

When I buy a gun, I always ask to try every example of that gun that the store has. You would be AMAZED at the variances between triggers (especially on 1911's) between different examples of the exact same model.

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You are right there is more to it but the sig has so many fit and finish problems it's on it's way back to sig! the sr1911 is really a great gun,my LGD installed a davidson enclosed spring guide rod so you can take it down with no spring pressure , no plunger fly love it.
 
wingnuut said:
You are right there is more to it but the sig has so many fit and finish problems it's on it's way back to sig! the sr1911 is really a great gun,my LGD installed a davidson enclosed spring guide rod so you can take it down with no spring pressure , no plunger fly love it.

Sorry, but I gotta ask ... If the Sig ... 'has so many fit and finish problems' .... why in the world did you buy it ??? Fit and finish problems are usually immediately obvious.


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wingnuut said:
got my new lyman digitaltrigger weight pull,my new sig target with match trigger ect 5.29 lbs. my new sr1911 4.15 lbs. how about that at half the price wow!!

I must have gotten an even better buy on my SR 1911 than you, 'cause my trigger pull feels like it weighs at least twice as much as yours! :lol: :lol: :lol: Old friend Leonard Baity is working on it now.
A great gun, though, even if it does require a real he-man to pull the trigger!
 
my lgd is also a gunsmith and he puts them in all the 1911s he sells if the customer wants it ,i thought it was a good idea ,it's so easy to take it down and no chance of coil bind and no plunger in the eye ha ha !
 
My Range Officer was a great gun out of the box but it still needed a magwell and full length guide rod to satisfy me. How is that an indictment???
 
I couldn't ask for a better trigger, pull is perfect, just don't like the play side to side and backward to forward
 
CraigC said:
My Range Officer was a great gun out of the box but it still needed a magwell and full length guide rod to satisfy me. How is that an indictment???

It seems that some can never be happy with what makes you or I happy with our own stuff!
 
Ken ONeill said:
wingnuut said:
got my new lyman digitaltrigger weight pull,my new sig target with match trigger ect 5.29 lbs. my new sr1911 4.15 lbs. how about that at half the price wow!!

I must have gotten an even better buy on my SR 1911 than you, 'cause my trigger pull feels like it weighs at least twice as much as yours! :lol: :lol: :lol: Old friend Leonard Baity is working on it now.
A great gun, though, even if it does require a real he-man to pull the trigger!

Here's an update: I picked up my reworked SR1911 from Leonard Baity (Baity's Gunworks, N.Wilkesboro, N.C.) yesterday, and couldn't be more pleased. The trigger pull is about 3 1/2 lbs, and of course creep free.

I have short fingers and the standard SR1911 has an unusually long trigger - longer than a Videcki and its clones, for example. I told Leonard I'd like a short trigger. He customized an aluminum one, adjustable for overtravel, and anodized it black. The weight of pull and trigger reach feels perfect. It's off to the range this morning for a real workout!

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In leather with crocodile trim by Simply Rugged:

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3.5 pounds is pretty light if you're gonna carry that gun ..... I have a Springfield with a 3-3.5 lb trigger and it's pretty scary ... range and experienced 1911 shooter use only ....


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Me too (almost that long) ... and that's how I know that 3.5 pounds for a 1911 carry gun is outrageously light ..... and would certainly be a monumental negative liability in the case of a shooting .... whether you choose to believe that or not.

I know ... I know ... you'll worry about that when it happens .... Either way ... OK by me. :D

Most gunsmiths won't even go that low for liability reasons ... I had to practically beg, and absolutely promise him that my gun was for range only use. If he hadn't KNOWN me, and know how I feel about modified guns for carry ... he wouldn't have done it.


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Tipper said:
I couldn't ask for a better trigger, pull is perfect, just don't like the play side to side and backward to forward
I have 1911s that will rattle when shaken but will still shoot inside 2" at 25 yards.

I've handled and shot other 1911s that didn't rattle at all but would barely stay inside 4" at 25.

To paraphrase Forrest Gump, "Tight is as tight shoots." :wink:
 
True !! The mark of a good, reliable, or accurate 1911 RARELY has to do with whether it rattles or not. Although some worn-out and shot-out 1911's will rattle AND be bad guns.

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3.5lbs would be good for me on a carry gun. My Springfield is 4.5lbs and that's not light enough. I'd actually prefer a little less than 3.5lbs but then again, I'm accustomed to 2lb triggers.
 
CraigC said:
My Springfield is 4.5lbs and that's not light enough.

Agreed. For me ... 1911's aren't for carry ...they're for the range. If it came to war ... I'd have a beltfull of 1911's and wondernines.

When it comes to carry ... I'll only use a bone stock weapon with a SA/DA trigger, and more than 7 bullets in the mag ... although I do make an exception for my P3AT ... otherwise if I think I'm going somewhere a little dangerous I use the G26. A three and a half pound trigger 1911 for carry ? Not a chance ... (for me). :D

For anybody else ?? Hey ... go for it. I won't be in court with you .... and neither will the manufacturer of the gun. Well ... they may be there ... just to say that you're on your own since you modified their product.

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I've heard of little to no precedence for this fear of lighter or modified triggers in self defense cases. Just like with handloads, more conjecture and speculation than anything. I've conversed directly with Massad Ayoob and he produced no cases to support either claim.

An accidental shooting 'might' be a little different.
 
to answer revhight , it was still in the fedx shipping box so i took it sight unseen,ibot a p238 3 weeks before and it was perfect, so i bot on reputation, by the way i shipped to sig and they did nothing said was in spec. they didn't even replace the chewed up mags, caused by a burr in mag well that i had to fix myself when i got it back.
 
Well ... I guess you're done with Sigs then ....

Can you post pics of the imperfections ?


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