Tom Horn

[Bob Wright]

The movie "Tom Horn" was recently shown on the Grit channel. Beautiful scenery, correct costumes and just natural looking folks. Richard Farnsworth, Slim Pickens, Steve McQueen all well cast.

But, the movie has Tom Horn using a Winchester 1886 in .40-65 caliber, and McQueen really dubs the recoil of such a powerful gun. But.......

At Tom Horn's trial proceedings, it is brought out that he used a Winchester 94 in .30-30. One lawyer quizzes him on why not use the "longer ranging .30 Government" (Model 95) and his reply was "I like to get in close."

And at one point, McQueen remarks about the "rainbow trajectory" of the .40-65. I sort of doubt that expression was in use during that period.

Bob Wright

 

[Rick Courtright]

The movie "Tom Horn" was recently shown on the Grit channel. Beautiful scenery, correct costumes and just natural looking folks. Richard Farnsworth, Slim Pickens, Steve McQueen all well cast.

But, the movie has Tom Horn using a Winchester 1886 in .40-65 caliber, and McQueen really dubs the recoil of such a powerful gun. But.......

At Tom Horn's trial proceedings, it is brought out that he used a Winchester 94 in .30-30. One lawyer quizzes him on why not use the "longer ranging .30 Government" (Model 95) and his reply was "I like to get in close."

And at one point, McQueen remarks about the "rainbow trajectory" of the .40-65. I sort of doubt that expression was in use during that period.

Bob Wright

Hi,

But other than that, how did you like the movie?

Rick C

 

[Bob Wright]

Hi,

But other than that, how did you like the movie?

Rick C

That is one of those picture shows, like "The Searchers" or Jerimiah Johnson," that I can watch over and over again just for the scenery. And the portrayal of the characters was very well done. But I'm no critic.

Bob Wright

 

[jimbo1096]

Which rifle is this?

 

[Kevin]

Never heard of this movie. Where was it filmed? Is it in color?

I’ve only seen Steve McQueen in the movie Papillon.

 

[RoninPA]

Kevin, you never saw "The Great Escape"?????

 

[Kevin]

Kevin, you never saw "The Great Escape"?????

No, I guess I haven’t. I just went and saw a trailer for it. Huh? Not sure why. We have HBO, so I’ll watch it this weekend. It looks really good

 

[Ale-8(1)]

"I've never eaten a bug this big!"

 

[hittman]

Poor Kevin ….. never seen one of THE best car chase scenes ever filmed.

Kevin you should look that up!

 

[Ale-8(1)]

Poor Kevin ….. never seen one of THE best car chase scenes ever filmed.

Kevin you should look that up!

That would have been in Bullitt.

But The Great Escape did have probably the best motorcycle chase ever filmed.

 

[Fox Mike]

Or Bullitt? You have lived a sheltered life.

 

[Jeepnik]

Rifle used in the movie was Winchester 1873 in 45-75.

 

[T.A. WORKMAN]

Kevin while your at it, look up the "The Magnificent Seven"

 

[Ale-8(1)]

Rifle used in the movie was Winchester 1873 in 45-75.

Looks like an 1876 was actually used . . .

https://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Tom_Horn#Winchester_Model_1876

 

[Johnnu2]

The Thomas Crown Affair (1968 version)... McQueen at his coolest .. !!!

J.

 

[Bob Wright]

Rifle used in the movie was Winchester 1873 in 45-75.

A '73 in .45-75? Don't think so. The Model '73 could only handle pistol length cartridges. It was the Model '76 that took the longer cartridges. But Tom Horn was fond of the .30-30 Model 94. His was the only one in that vicinity at the time.

Bob Wright

 

[Sacramento Johnson]

Yes, the film rifle was an 1876 Winchester probably in 45-60.

 

[Wyandot Jim]

Yes, the film rifle was an 1876 Winchester probably in 45-60.

Better known as the Centennial Model That is how my 1897 Sears and Roebuck list the cartridges for it. The first production models were chambered in 45-75 WCF, and other chamberings followed firing the .40-60, 45-60, and the .50-95 Winchester Express.

In the above picture looks like a 86.

If I remember correctly Horn brought his outcome himself.


Kevin You need to get out more it appears you have lead a very sheltered life

 

[contender]

Kevin,, as many have mentioned several well known films with Steve McQueen,, you really need to spend some time watching his stuff.
And while you are at it,, research Steve himself. He was a REAL actor,, and many of his films will always be known as solid classics.

One of my all time favorite actors.

 

[Sacramento Johnson]

Better known as the Centennial Model That is how my 1897 Sears and Roebuck list the cartridges for it. The first production models were chambered in 45-75 WCF, and other chamberings followed firing the .40-60, 45-60, and the .50-95 Winchester Express.

In the above picture looks like a 86.

If I remember correctly Horn brought his outcome himself.


Kevin You need to get out more it appears you have lead a very sheltered life

Jim, one can see the sliding dust cover and the edge of the side plate as found on a '76 in the above pic of McQueen holding the rifle. '86s don't have either (and is a much better design, in my opinion, having owned both in the past!)

 

[Acorn]

What about “Sand Pebbles”?

 

[Wyandot Jim]

Jim, one can see the sliding dust cover and the edge of the side plate as found on a '76 in the above pic of McQueen holding the rifle. '86s don't have either (and is a much better design, in my opinion, having owned both in the past!)

You are correct. I was looking for any sign of a 94. My bad

 

[KIR]

In "Wanted Dead or Alive", McQueen rode a horse named Ringo.

 

[Danjet500]

He was also an accomplished car and motorcycle racer.

 

[Bob Wright]

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Which rifle is this?

This appears to be a Model 1886, from the short receiver at the stock junction.

Bob Wrkight

 

[gunzo]

If the movie followed the real story, Tom Horn must have been extremely dumb...or guilty. I never quite figured that out.
He never admitted nor denied shooting that kid. always a comment, but never a direct answer. Just kind of weird.

 

[Snake Pleskin]

Poor Kevin ….. never seen one of THE best car chase scenes ever filmed.

Kevin you should look that up!

yes, Bullit !!

 

[40nascar]

It's a stupid movie, with Good scenery, and a Good actor.

 

[Sacramento Johnson]

This appears to be a Model 1886, from the short receiver at the stock junction.

Bob Wrkight

It's an 1876 (which also has a short reciever at the stock junction); see my earlier post, please.

 

[txramfan]

On Any Sunday and Le Mans are two films with McQueen. Motorcycles in the first, race cars in the second and McQueen races in both.