Thoughts on the RNFP?

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This bullet is for use in the 44 Spec/Mag. I like the profile, it loads easy with speedloaders. The bevel base is very slight (I like flat base) & seems to be a none issue here. It's pretty much standard weight at 250 grains. Any thoughts for the sake of conversation?

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Looks like a great plinker(I use a 200gr.), and if pushed to 1000-1100 would be a excellent deer bullet. maybe be careful with the BHN, bump it to 15 or higher for deer.
 
If that's LBT lube, at least you got that part right! 8)

I'm gonna buy as much of the stuff as I can. Veral ain't getting any younger, the formula is top secret! :wink: ( bless him... )
 
I've found I like the RNFP boolits for my .44 Magnums. I don't hunt with them, but would be satisfied that I had the right bullet if I did. My Puma won't feed SWC bullets so I switched to Ranchdog's 265 gr. RNFP. Shoots great over a mid charge of Blue Dot. I haven't developed a load for my Ruger SBH yet but that's coming soon...
 
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Lynn,

I like it's shape for general rifle/revolver use. Now if you only had the same bullet in .454" I'd order some. I still don't have a .44.

Joe
 
For conversation sake, why are so many commercial and semi commercial boolits bevel base when the conventional wisdom is that flat bottom is more accurate and less prone to leading?
 
tek4260 said:
For conversation sake, why are so many commercial and semi commercial boolits bevel base when the conventional wisdom is that flat bottom is more accurate and less prone to leading?

It's easier for them to cast the bullets. BB bullets come out of the molds easier.

Their sales pitch is they are easier to use in progressive loading machines but I doubt that.

Joe
 
J Miller said:
tek4260 said:
For conversation sake, why are so many commercial and semi commercial boolits bevel base when the conventional wisdom is that flat bottom is more accurate and less prone to leading?

It's easier for them to cast the bullets. BB bullets come out of the molds easier.

Their sales pitch is they are easier to use in progressive loading machines but I doubt that.

Joe

They also ship better. Fewer noticeable dings to the base edge. Same reason for the ultrahard crayon lubes.

I found many commercial cast bullets to be sized too small for my guns. That's what got me into casting my own.
 
Bevel Bases (BB) are said to be easier to load. This is suppose to be a big plus to those using automated machines. I have a friend who is among the best of the best with the self loaders. For these pistols he can tell no difference between BB & FB bullets for accuracy. I trust him 'cause I don't shoot autoloaders.

Now the 44 bullet above has what I call a limited BB. This picture shows said bullets between the 44 & 45 Keiths.
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When most think BB they think something like these two pictures.
44 SWC
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38 SWC
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Ale-8(1) said:
Bevel base also requires minimal case flaring for easy seating.

That's what I was going to say. If you're just plinking then I like a bevel base cuz my brass gets worked less. But if I want some accuracy for targets or hunting I go for the flat base.

The RNFP posted by the OP has a nice sized meplat. The ones from Beartooth have a great meplat, too, and I imagine they'd hunt well.

Any of the mass produced RNFP slugs I've picked up cheap had bevel bases and small to non-existent meplats.
 
dougader said:
Any of the mass produced RNFP slugs I've picked up cheap had bevel bases and small to non-existent meplats.

The meplat found on the 45 Colt factory load of old I've used were very small. Some of the Lyman 454190's were also small. The picture below compares meplat diameters.

L to R: The Lyman 429421, my RNFP, Ballisti-Cast #1101
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I have shot tens of thousands of both bevel base and flat base bullets. Flat base is my preference but with little reason except that small ledge in the bullet mould that creates a bevel base is fragile. I have an iron Saeco four cavity bevel base bullet that failed. I'll have to get someone to open up the bevel to flat base. That will cost me. So, I prefer flat base.

Other than that, I find I can get NRA Bullseye accuracy with both (under 1" at 25 yards and under 2.0" at fifty yards).

Dale53
 
Dale the correspondence coming through here is the same. Issues with the BB bullet for the most part aren't accuracy related unless the bullet is out of round; the bevel base isn't centered, etc. If the bullet is as it should be it will shoot close to the FB bullet at least to 50 yards.

And gentlemen I'm not pushing BB over FB, just having the conversation.
 
Lynn - I like the profile you posted. I had Mountain Mould do a 41 mag bullet very similar for me, flat base tho. I get good performance from the BB bullets I do use and they are easier for me to load on the Dillon 650.
 
Cherokee said:
Lynn - I like the profile you posted. I had Mountain Mould do a 41 mag bullet very similar for me, flat base tho. I get good performance from the BB bullets I do use and they are easier for me to load on the Dillon 650.

Must be nice to have a 650 :D

I load very few BB bullets but like you say, they sure load easy. BTW I'm not sure I thanked you for the 44-200-RNFP Lee bullets you sent. I need to get one of those 6 cavity jobs for my personal use. :lol:
 
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