While on one of my walks I wandered down an alley and this is what I found. I'm seriously thinking about contacting the owner about buying it. It would make a nice stable mate for my CJ-8
This could get costly!
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Good luck!
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Pat-inCO
Hawkeye
How much are you going to require him to pay you?
RSIno1
Hunter
Some people just don't get California car culture. :wink:Pat-inCO said:
I miss my V8 powered CJ2 but at 6'1" it was a little cramped. That CJ6 ith the longer wheelbase it would be good home for the Chevy crate motor sitting in the garage. Let me know if you don't want it.
Looks like a fun project. I bought a new to me car last year and looked at heels but didn't get one. I wish I had though. Lots of jeeps here in DFW.
OP
RSIno1 said:
I peaked. It's got a straight six. It would stay a carbureted straight six.
Obviously hasn't moved in quite some time, but this would have to be a frame off restore. Fortunately, with older CJ's my biggest problem is finding some where to put the parts after I take them off and before I put them back on.
With old Jeeps you can quite literally buy the parts from the frame up on line and build one. And, if there is a small part or two not available that way they are usually easy to find else where either on line or in a junk yard.
The hardest part is getting rusted nuts and bolts loose.
"I see potential here.."
A couple of months back Tom decided he was putting way too many miles on his nearly ir-replaceable HD pickup and started looking for a "beater" vehicle. It had to have seats for at least 5, covered cargo, 4wd, auto trans, and be GM based. He found the most unlikely prospect imaginable--81-84 GMC Jimmy w/6.2 diesel.
After some quality time spent fixing the floor pan so the seat didn't fall through, we got it going only to find the seller had lied about having the front end rebuilt. Next project is ball joints, manual lock-out hubs, and wheel bearings. This is all stuff I've done in the past, just not what we had planned for our time. Oh well, this is stuff he needs to learn, doesn't cost THAT MUCH, and the thing runs for 1/2 what it costs to drive his pickup. If he smacks a deer, not much lost-maybe nothing since we put a bull guard on the front. I demanded he keep it within a 20 mile range of home to limit how far I have to go retrieve it if/when something else goes wrong.
A couple of months back Tom decided he was putting way too many miles on his nearly ir-replaceable HD pickup and started looking for a "beater" vehicle. It had to have seats for at least 5, covered cargo, 4wd, auto trans, and be GM based. He found the most unlikely prospect imaginable--81-84 GMC Jimmy w/6.2 diesel.
After some quality time spent fixing the floor pan so the seat didn't fall through, we got it going only to find the seller had lied about having the front end rebuilt. Next project is ball joints, manual lock-out hubs, and wheel bearings. This is all stuff I've done in the past, just not what we had planned for our time. Oh well, this is stuff he needs to learn, doesn't cost THAT MUCH, and the thing runs for 1/2 what it costs to drive his pickup. If he smacks a deer, not much lost-maybe nothing since we put a bull guard on the front. I demanded he keep it within a 20 mile range of home to limit how far I have to go retrieve it if/when something else goes wrong.
A lot of potential there. I haven't seen a CJ-6 in years, heck, if you see any decent CJ around here in the rust belt, it has come from somewhere else or it's got a fiberglass body on it.
TJ's are already getting rust issues.
And,,,, Jeepnik, since you brought it up & it looks like you take a pretty good pic, how bout 1 or 3 of your Scrambler? I've been wanting to see it.
TJ's are already getting rust issues.
And,,,, Jeepnik, since you brought it up & it looks like you take a pretty good pic, how bout 1 or 3 of your Scrambler? I've been wanting to see it.
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gunzo said:
The Scrambler is at the beginning of a frame off rebuild. I've got about two years until I retire and that's the first thing on my list.
I've gone back and forth about how I want to it to end up, and I've pretty much decided to go stock, except maybe the diffs (they are currently ARB's). That means doing away with the lift. But I still have the stock wheels and it seems those are about the hardest thing to find these days. That, and I have the original 1/4 top. Those you rarely see.
Looks like there is a story with that one. Twin fuel cans, a properly affixed jack, mud flaps to keep from spraying those following, extra lights mounted out front (where they belong).........but that tiny steering wheel has me confused........gotta hope the power steering pump never fails. Good luck in negotiations. :idea:
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Salmoneye said:
31x10.5's were possible. But I think stocks were 29's? I'll find out, and while I can match the exact tire, I'll match the size.
I have this photo of it stock on it's first outing to the local mountains to work from with regards to paint and striping kit (which you can, amazingly, get).
One of the hardest things to find is the spare tire bracket that mounts to the roll bar. I ended up using mine to mount my hi lift jack so it's still right where Jeep intended it to be.
DGW1949
Hawkeye
GP100 said:
Mostly, I see a money pit...and then ask myself, to what end?
But that's just me...My wife say's that I'm much too practical for my own good. :lol: .
DGW
exavid
Hunter
Money is to be spent for toys after the other junk like shelter, food, ammo and all that kind of stuff is taken care of. A few years ago I'd have gone for a project like that for sure. Now not so much, I'm about in the same condition as the Jeep in the picture. My last major rebuild was about ten years ago when my brother in law and I restored a basket case Commonwealth Skyranger. There's a lot of satisfaction in bringing a neglected machine back to first class condition. Specially types that are fairly rare. Specially motorcycles, airplanes and sailboats.
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DGW1949 said:
To what end? Same as all projects, FUN. I've worked my entire life. I'm getting to the end of that part of my life. Now I want to work on things for fun. Heck, I could die before I finish, but I'd rather do that than just sit there waiting to die wishing I had done something.
BTDT. :wink:
I look at that and realize I'd probably spend close to a new one once all the "hidden features" are resolved.
But I wouldn't have had all the fun.
:mrgreen:
I look at that and realize I'd probably spend close to a new one once all the "hidden features" are resolved.
But I wouldn't have had all the fun.
:mrgreen:
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Ale-8(1) said:
Body and frame are good. Suspension would be replaced regardless. It's the drive train that's iffy. But, I've seen diffs, x-fer cases and manual trannys that have set for years come back to life with cleaned and new seals. As long as the bearings aren't shot and the gears aren't chewed up it's just a matter of disassembling, cleaning and putting them back together.
And as for the engine, a straight six, especially an old one is a joy to work on. None of the electronic crud and millions of feet of vacuum lines some newer engines have.
Hmm...
Pretty sure I had to switch to 8" wide Ford rims with a different offset and a two inch Add-A-Leaf to get the 31"x10.5" tires to not rub on turns on one of my CJ8's...
That was early 90's, so I may be mis-remembering...
Pretty sure I had to switch to 8" wide Ford rims with a different offset and a two inch Add-A-Leaf to get the 31"x10.5" tires to not rub on turns on one of my CJ8's...
That was early 90's, so I may be mis-remembering...
OP
Checked a couple of on line sources and they say 31x10.5, but if I remember there wasn't a whole lot of room left in the rear wheel wells with those.
Rick Courtright
Hawkeye
Hi,
It's a Jeep thing. I don't understand it!
Actually, I do, but I'd make sure the CJ at home has had its shots before bringing this little street urchin home. Don't want something strange jumping off and making the good one sick!
Best of luck with it if it becomes part of the family! (Hope a prior owner was thoughtful enough to file a non-op on it so you don't end up owing DMV more than it's gonna be worth even fixed up.)
Rick C
It's a Jeep thing. I don't understand it!
Actually, I do, but I'd make sure the CJ at home has had its shots before bringing this little street urchin home. Don't want something strange jumping off and making the good one sick!
Best of luck with it if it becomes part of the family! (Hope a prior owner was thoughtful enough to file a non-op on it so you don't end up owing DMV more than it's gonna be worth even fixed up.)
Rick C
Don Lovel
Hunter
Cummins 2.8 turbo diesel available for Jeep 4.0 swap direct from Cummins
Edelbrock makes high flow head kit and rebuilding a 4.0 is not that hard to do, but the Cummins crate motor in my 98 XJ Cherokee would be sweet
Edelbrock makes high flow head kit and rebuilding a 4.0 is not that hard to do, but the Cummins crate motor in my 98 XJ Cherokee would be sweet
OP
Don't need a diesel or an eight. I've never found a place where my straight 6 won't take my CJ8, so I imagine the same would go for the CJ6.
Took another look at it today, haven't been able to get a hold of the owner yet, and she's set up for a snorkel.
Took another look at it today, haven't been able to get a hold of the owner yet, and she's set up for a snorkel.
I get way too curious about things sometimes, but also like to refresh my memory, so I did a bit of research.
The CJ-6 in question should be a 1971 or 72. 71 was the first year for a 6 cylinder engine if original, & 72 was the last year for under the drivers seat gas tank.
The CJ-6, 1956-1975. Every time I see one I think of the old 50's & 60's Air Force movies, don't know if the Air Force used a lot of them, but Hollywood sure did.
Ca. has it's own share of problems just as all states. But their dry, nearly rust free older vehicles are a sight to see. No finds like this left in my neck of the woods.
The CJ-6 in question should be a 1971 or 72. 71 was the first year for a 6 cylinder engine if original, & 72 was the last year for under the drivers seat gas tank.
The CJ-6, 1956-1975. Every time I see one I think of the old 50's & 60's Air Force movies, don't know if the Air Force used a lot of them, but Hollywood sure did.
Ca. has it's own share of problems just as all states. But their dry, nearly rust free older vehicles are a sight to see. No finds like this left in my neck of the woods.
OP
With a Jeep of this vintage it's hard to say what is original. Note the very small steering wheel. It must have power steering, but I haven't got a good enough look to tell.
As I said the body and frame are in great shape, thanks to the aforementioned California weather. Drive train is the only question, and that's not hard to fix or change, just costly.
Still once restored to operating condition, it value would skyrocket.
As I said the body and frame are in great shape, thanks to the aforementioned California weather. Drive train is the only question, and that's not hard to fix or change, just costly.
Still once restored to operating condition, it value would skyrocket.
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gunzo said:
I'll keep it in mind if I ever find the owner. I have almost a complete CJ body and a couple of transfer cases and third members stored out back. Courtesy of friends who have destroyed Jeeps one way or another.
Parts come, parts go as folks need them. Guys with old Jeeps are Jeepers. The kids with the new stuff wouldn't likely even know how to change an axel much less have a spare one lying around.
The old guy generally just give parts to one another knowing someday they will need something and they'll get it from someone else.
Then again, since there are getting to be so few of us we do still wave to each other. The Jeep Wave, it's an old jeepers thing. The kids and all others won't understand.
