The Good, the Bad, & the Ugly Re: Security .380?

[rammerjammer]

I recently picked up a Security-380 and have had good results so far. First range trip 50 rounds of PMC, ran flawless and locked back on each empty magazine. Decent accuracy at 7 yards. Second range trip 50 rounds Federal, all fired locked back etc but after one shot the trigger had not reset. Fired, extracted and fed the next round just fine, but dead trigger. Racked it and everything fired fine from then on. Really not sure what happened.

Yesterday I went shooting and wanted to try a small amount of defensive ammo. 17 rounds of Fiocchi Extrema with the XTP bullet. 2 failure to feed. The gun had been shot prior but wasn't filthy. Will have to try some more before loading those up for a defensive round.

 

[mficca1]

Will be following how you are doing going forward.

 

[black1970]

Glock has come out with a 19 sized .380. I think it is a model 25. Also a model 26 sized .380 - think I will try the 25. Sounds like fun. I reload so.
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[peachhead]

I read somewhere that Ruger does not recommend Fiocchi ammo in the Sec380.

 

[rammerjammer]

Glock has come out with a 19 sized .380. I think it is a model 25. Also a model 26 sized .380 - think I will try the 25. Sounds like fun. I reload so.
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Yup the Glock 25 has been released in America now. One reservation for it is that it's a blowback design.

 

[mficca1]

I read somewhere that Ruger does not recommend Fiocchi ammo in the Sec380.

My gun range says that Fiocchi is an ammo that is no reliable much of the time.

 

[the_leper_colony]

I read somewhere that Ruger does not recommend Fiocchi ammo in the Sec380.

I hadn't heard that, so the first thing I tried in mine was Fiocchi FMJ (it happened to be on sale). IIRC, I put 30 rounds through it, out of a 50 round box, and had no issues - maybe I was lucky. Guess I should keep the rest on 'reserve' status.

 

[mficca1]

Yup the Glock 25 has been released in America now. One reservation for it is that it's a blowback design.

Why are you saying that the blowback design is a negative?

 

[rammerjammer]

Why are you saying that the blowback design is a negative?

Blowback designs generally have more felt recoil over locked breech pistols.

 

[peachhead]

Blowback designs generally have more felt recoil over locked breech pistols.

It's 380, soooo meh.

 

[rammerjammer]

It's 380, soooo meh.

Yeah but reduced recoil is the whole point of the Security-380 and thus this thread. Soooo yeah

 

[peachhead]

Yeah but reduced recoil is the whole point of the Security-380 and thus this thread. Soooo yeah

Actually most of my customers are more geared towards the lite rack slide than the reduced recoil.

 

[Cholo]

I had a NAA .380 Guardian for years; a blowback. Then in early '08 I bought the new LCP, locked breech. Rounded off the all steel NAA weighted 20 oz and the original LCP 10 oz. The NAA kicked far more than the LCP. I tried some of the hot Buffalo Bore ammo in the NAA and it was downright brutal LOL Those metal edges took chunks of skin off everything it could contact. I didn't even think of shooting them out of the featherweight LCP. The wonder of it is that I shot all 20 out of the NAA--while bleeding, just to get rid of them

Why put up with a blowback when there are so many locked breech guns being made and you get less recoil to boot? I know a lot of people who would rather have the less recoil. Given the choice of equal guns/calibers, who would say: "I like the one that recoils more!"

 

[rammerjammer]

To add to Cholo's post about blowback recoil.

I think Beretta really missed the mark reintroducing the 80X. Sure it is built better than the Ruger Security-380 but a midsized 380 is already a very niche gun in today's market with so many options. Many midsize 380 buyers are going to be women, infirm arthritic etc. Many will be averse to an expensive blowback gun. And at the price point of about $700 its not exactly entry level pricing. The Security-380 is affordable and designed for ease of use, racking and shooting.