The Dying 44?

[Ranger]

There is also this one...

https://thebiggamehuntingblog.com/what-is-the-taylor-ko-factor/

 

[GasGuzzler]

.357 will follow.

 

[Ctsigsd]

I lived thru the muscle car era, and even was able to drive a few (Plymouth 426), and none of today's stock 'muscle cars' come close in a full sized sedan. But the efficiency of engines has dramatically changed, so power has increased per engine size considerably. For example, I have a family car, a 2013 Chev Impala with a V6, and it delivers 300 HP! And it is only a 3.6L engine, which is on 220 cu! The original muscle car was the 1965 GTO, and it had a 389 CU engine, and with 3 dueces (carburators), that version delivered 360 HP. What a difference engines are today. Also, today, the Mustang is in the class of muscle car, but back in the day, the Mustang was not a muscle car at all.

Also sir, prior to 1972 cars rated in GROSS HP,starting in 72 thier rated like now,Net HP...That 360 HP was gross HP..MINUS about 20 percent to get net HP..SO that 360 HP wud be bout 285-290 in Net HP..

 

[Ctsigsd]

While the topic in this thread is on the .44 Mag, I have to comment about using the 10mm for hunting, and specifically, the hunting of larger game. Those who sport the 10mm are basically semi-auto pistols users, and do not want or like revolvers, and probably have not really used one. Given that most revolvers are a lot more powerful than most pistols (and yes, a revolver is not a pistol), the propensity to suggest using the 10mm over even the .357 Mag, is just one of bias. The .357 Mag is considerably more powerful than the 10mm (over 20% more), and then there is the .41 Mag that is 24% more powerful than the .357 Mag, and then the .44 mag, which is 60% more powerful than the .357.

I own a .45 LC Blackhawk Convertible, so I can shoot both the .45 ACP (with a cylinder swap) and the .45 Colt (LC). When I shoot the high powered .45 LC ammo (from Buffalo Bore), it is like shooting the .44 Mag, with a very big recoil and loud sound. Of course, some recoil can be attenuated to, partially by the barrel length. My 3.57 Mag Black hawk has a 6 1/2" barrel, so the recoil on the max load is not that great. But barrel length on my .45 Ruger Blackhawk is only 5 1/2", so the kick is huge with the big loads! I suspect that it would probably be manageable on a 7 1.2 barrel, but I have never had the opportunity to try that. By the way, when I shot the hottest .45 ACP round (Atomic 616 ft. lbs.), the kick is more like shooting a 9mm pistol. Of course, my .45 Ruger Blackhawk is a much heavier and much more robust handgun than any pistol.

If you look at REAL 10MM loadings, like Underwood ammo,yull find it meets or exceeds a 357 in SAME legnth barrel..Many mainstream makers load 10MM in the FBI loading..No bias here,got Gaggle old Smith 357s, and couple 10s..Ruger offering SUPERVREDHAWK in 10mm now..Gotta be strong for ruger to make SUPER REDHAWK in a 10..None for a 357..GPv100 or backhawk for 357..I got both..That 6 inch BH in 357 SPOOKY accurate..Love em both,but in 180-220 grain,the 10 has it over 357 in same barrels..Check Underwoods Data, matches my Chrony readings..Glock 20,.Lone wolf fully supported ported barrel, 22bLb recoil spring..
Thanx for the time ,Craig

 

[Ctsigsd]

Also sir, prior to 1972 cars rated in GROSS HP,starting in 72 thier rated like now,Net HP...That 360 HP was gross HP..MINUS about 20 percent to get net HP..SO that 360 HP wud be bout 285-290 in Net HP..

Also..I too lived thru that era."No replacement for displacement" Your right bout Stang..We didn look at it like a GTX or a Goat..90% were slow, 289s most common, slow, and 302s were ALL 2 barrels FROM FACTORY..EXCEPT A REAL 69 or 70 Boss,solid lifter.. but those RARE..Still,even that motor,not much low end torque..ONLY the scarse 428 FE -CJ ,,OR 429 CJ, OR ULTRA RARE Cammer 429 could run like a common 440HP..80% WERE common 289..even the 271HP version got EATEN by even bigger cars, 428GrandvPrix..or 454 Monte..GREAT MEMORIES!

 

[gramps]

I have two .44 magnums now, and one .44 Spcl. When I shoot, I mainly shoot the .44 spcl, cause it is my woods bumming, around the ranch gun. I do reload straight walled cartridges. The other gun I shoot is my LCP MAX in .380, as it is my go to town defense gun. It really conceals well, but has enough ammo to let me take care of business.
gramps

 

[arcticruger]

…whatchu talking about Willis ??

 

[Mag-force]

Back in the day as for the true muscle the 64 GTO was the original muscle car. I ran Mustangs all my life
pretty much in high school and still today i've got a original Boss 302 W code 430 dragpak sitting in the garage next to an all original
94 lightning. I ran every weekend on a road call telegraph in dearborn Mi and the down river area. Back then i had a 70 Mach 428 SCJ 4 sp and i'd take on those hemi cars and chevy and smoke them. So don't tell me that Mustangs weren't muscles cars!

 

[volshooter]

I spend most of my time in the Smokey mountains. Depending on time of year I carry different pistols with different loads. I don’t believe the .44 mag will be forgotten. I’ve had 454 and 460, both good rounds but a hand loaded 44 mag will accomplish the job and for me very accurate. I can say that my super black hawk with hand loads will consistently hit a 10 inch gong, with open sights at 100 yards from a rest. I’ve never encountered any critter that was not dispatched by one round. In the mountains the .44 mag I’d my go to. I load 2 rounds of #6 shot shells and 4 rounds of WNFP hard cast. I trust this combination 100%.

 

[gnappi]

The niche may be getting a little smaller, but it's still there.

Black plastic is the current "hot setup" but it, too, will pass.

Wonder what the next "thing" will be.

Yup!

The trends sometimes follow laws. The mag capacity limit law sold more .40's, .45's, and .357's as an unintended consequence.

 

[Ctsigsd]

Back in the day as for the true muscle the 64 GTO was the original muscle car. I ran Mustangs all my life
pretty much in high school and still today i've got a original Boss 302 W code 430 dragpak sitting in the garage next to an all original
94 lightning. I ran every weekend on a road call telegraph in dearborn Mi and the down river area. Back then i had a 70 Mach 428 SCJ 4 sp and i'd take on those hemi cars and chevy and smoke them. So don't tell me that Mustangs weren't muscles cars!

Yes,when the 428 CJ Debuted in 1968 1/2,it took em by storm in super stock..302 Boss never meant as drag race motor, meant for trans -am circuit,.. That FE family 428 CJ was sweet motor,also had street manners,.you cud take Aunt Millie to store to get head of cabbage..Idled decent for that kinda power.. COMICALLY rated at 335 gross HP ,so you cud insure it..It was actually offered in the Cougar! Talk about a sleeper! Worth fortune at Mecum,very few made..Ive rattled on long enough