Synthetic oil

[Rick Courtright]

HI,

Based on nothing but the title of the thread, where might this go?

Rick C

 

[bogus bill]

Dont give me no plastic saddle, I want to feel that leather when I ride?

 

[Bob Wright]

I'm not too sure I understand what a synthetic oil really is. Seems to me a better description would be "blended oil." From my understanding, additives are added to petroleum based oil control the viscosity at varying temperatures.


Bob Wright

 

[Bull Barrel]

That is a multi weight oil. It uses polymers to act like a different weight oil.

 

[bogus bill]

I once asked a old grouch at a harley shop what was a good oil other than the expensive harley brand oil what was good? He said water is better than nothing!

 

[coach]

Any oil is better than no oil.

 

[kramden]

On the back of an oil bottle is a little donut with some letters in it. That "donut" tells you the quality of that oil. You can research what the different letters stand for as far as quality of that oil. That's all that matter whether you paid 25 cents a quart or $10.

 

[miniman]

this is about as useless as pelosi!

 

[wolfsong]

I prefer virgin olive oil on my salads. No blended oil for me. For frying NOTHING beats peanut oil. I've used it for close to 50 years, professionally and personally. I see no need to change now.

 

[gunzo]

I've seen syn drop the normal operating temp of a truck rear end by 10%. I've seen it drop the head temp by 8% on Evo powered H/D's.

But when I was teen working in a filling station & the old dude with backer juice dripping out of the corner of his mouth told me to change the earl in his machine, I knew to put straight 30W non-detergent in the 54 Chevy if it was summertime, or straight 20W in the winter. Had syn been available then, it probably didn't have the molasses effect to have kept that old motor together.

 

[6GUNSONLY]

I once put synthetic oil in my old Ford F-150 4x4 with the 351 HO motor. It leaked oil from every seal. Had to go back to dinosaur oil.

 

[blackhawknj]

I had a '78 Ford that had smoking problems, I switched to the "synthetic" oil and they disappeared immediately.

 

[Mobuck]

I use full synthetic motor oil in everything except the diesel farm equipment. Works great.

 

[Heliman]

I use full synthetic motor oil in everything except the diesel farm equipment. Works great.

Me too....

 

[Jeepnik]

Just so you know, the base for most if not all synthetic oil is petroleum. It really is just more refined and with more additives.

Is it better the “regular” oil? It does have greater lubricity and resists breakdown due to higher temperatures better. But for the driving most folks do it’s a wash except for cost.

Vehicle manufacturers recommend it mostly because they can charge more for an oil change. At the volumes they use their cost is much lower than the retail customer.

 

[Mobuck]

I change my oil DIY and buy the oil & filters on sale or in bulk. I can often get QS synthetic for same or lower cost than parts store dino oil and I know exactly what I'm getting.
Since my vehicles are higher mileage that get run quite a few more miles or don't get run much at all but pulled hard when they do get used, I've been changing the filter in mid oil change sequence. Oil is run 6500-7000 and filter is changed @ 3500 and oil topped off. I just don't trust the itsy bitsy oil filters they put on the newer vehicles. This practice has worked well for the past 20-25 years(since synthetic became popular).
FWIW,
I don't recommend oil change interval based on the on-board "oil life indicator". Son's company vehicle oil change policy is "don't change before it says so" and the last 3 have shown increased oil consumption well before the 100,000 mile lease period end. In other words, saving $50 every 10-12K cut the life of the engine by half.

 

[daveg.inkc]

My current F-150 , 5.4, would need a quart added at 2,500-3000 miles on an oil change. Switched to QS full syn. Now, still full at 5,000. I called Quaker State in Houston, TX and asked a man about using synthetic in a flat tappet cam engine like my GTO. This tech has written articles for Hot Rod magazine on oil for muscle car mills. Zinc is needed for these. And these oils don’t contain much zinc. Been removed for emissions. Catalytic converter. He said to use T4 Shell Rotella. QS and Pennzoil is same oil. Different bottles. I sent an oil sample into Blackstone Labs in Fort Wayne, IN. A 4,000 mile sample of QS 5-20 Full Syn from Ford truck. Test report said to run another 1,000 miles and test again. I didn’t pay for more tests, just change 820-S filter at 2,500 and add a quart. A clean engine will run 300,000 miles and more.

 

[ronto]

I use Mobile 0W-20 in my 2009 Toyota RAV4.

 

[Rick Courtright]

Hi,

I have a couple of cuckoo clocks. Despite the various complicated linkages, they're pretty simply made, and need a tiny bit of oil on their several pivot points every year or two. I've seen videos where the fellow was saying to use only synthetic oil on them.

Ok, but what did they use back in the 1700s when they were invented?

Rick C

 

[sfhogman]

Whale oil...
From tiny Black Forest whales.

 

[Jimbo357mag]

I think in Europe it has to be 100% synthetic but in the US it can be blended and still be called synthetic oil. Kinda like Champagne.

http://www.oilchangeadvice.com/synthetic-oil-vs-regular-oil.html

 

[wolfsong]

I think in Europe it has to be 100% synthetic but in the US it can be blended and still be called synthetic oil. Kinda like Champagne.

http://www.oilchangeadvice.com/synthetic-oil-vs-regular-oil.html

Not sure what you mean "kinda like Chsmpagne". Only grapes grown and processed in Champagne, France can be designated as champagne and bear that name on its label. All others are "sparkling wine".

 

[Jeepnik]

Except the US. We didn't sign the agreement. That is why you will find champagne from California.

 

[Montelores]

Except the US. We didn't sign the agreement. That is why you will find champagne from California.

Actually, we did sign the treaty.

However, the Senate never ratified the treaty.

Monty

Although this article was inserted primarily because of a dispute between France and Germany over mislabeling of sparkling wines and brandies, the ultimate result was that the use of Champagne on sparkling wine labels was curtailed in all of the nations party to the treaty. We say party to, because although the United States signed the treaty, the Senate never ratified the treaty.

https://vinepair.com/wine-blog/loophole-california-champagne-legal/

 

[Jeepnik]

I stand corrected.

 

[graygun]

Amsoil or die :lol:

I've used M1 for decades but believe there are some better ones out there.

 

[mr surveyor]

Bacon Grease


jd

 

[coach]

I change the Mobil1 in my 4Runner once a year whether it needs it or not. 165,000 miles and going strong.

 

[any ruger]

It all comes out of the same holes in the ground.

 

[Fox Mike]

MIL-L-23699 Synthetic used in all military turbo engines. When I was still serving the commercial version was Mobil-1.