Super Redhawk in 10mm

[djw54]

http://www.ruger.com/products/superRedhawkStandard/specSheets/5524.html

We're always looking for new offerings from Ruger, with the GP100 in 10mm being a "frequent" request.
Now they have given us the 10mm in a revolver, but it's the Super Redhawk. The SR is a very fine revolver, but it's biggish.

Thoughts?

 

[Sugar River]

An answer in search of a question.

 

[smith1961]

An answer in search of a question.

ABSOLUTELY!!!!

Now I love our Ruger revolvers as much as anybody, but I am getting ticked with not being able to get them to make a simple .41 Mag Vaquero for years. Now the latest distributor special of the week is this thing? In the practical sense, the .41 mag version of this that was released recently, walks all over this one. And why make an eight shot .357, with a goofy short tube? On the other hand, 10mm fans/collectors will trample each other for one I guess.
:?

 

[rangerbob]

Being a 10mm fan, I'm almost outraged that Ruger would waste everybody's time to make this product. Who wants a 3 1/2 pound revolver to tote around. I'll gladly admit that the SRH has a reason for being, particularly in 44 magnum, 454, and 480 as a stand alone hunting revolver, but this model can serve no purpose other than a boat anchor. How hard would it be to make a 10mm GP-100 in a 3" fixed sight variation, 4.2" Match Champion variation, and a 5.5 or 6" half lug barrel for hunting and field use. Custom 'smiths have been converting them for years. I think Ruger totally dropped the ball with this one. I've got a Glock M40 6" that weighs I/2 as much and carries up to 3 times the ammo and comes optic ready out of the box. Bob!! :x

 

[csnider]

Totally agree with "rangerbob". Very disappointed with this offering.

csnider

 

[djw54]

...In the practical sense, the .41 mag version of this that was released recently, walks all over this one...

Being a 10mm fan, I'm almost outraged that Ruger would waste everybody's time to make this product. Who wants a 3 1/2 pound revolver to tote around. I'll gladly admit that the SRH has a reason for being, particularly in 44 magnum, 454, and 480 as a stand alone hunting revolver, but this model can serve no purpose other than a boat anchor. How hard would it be to make a 10mm GP-100 in a 3" fixed sight variation, 4.2" Match Champion variation, and a 5.5 or 6" half lug barrel for hunting and field use. Custom 'smiths have been converting them for years. I think Ruger totally dropped the ball with this one. I've got a Glock M40 6" that weighs I/2 as much and carries up to 3 times the ammo and comes optic ready out of the box. Bob!! :x

This was my take also. I didn't really "get" the .41 mag SR either, assuming that it doesn't have a longer cylinder than the regular Redhawk, but it definitely makes more sense than 10mm Thanks for the confirmation...

 

[Jimbo357mag]

With that barrel they will be able to chamber the S&W 40 cal. also. So who can't wait for that?

 

[djw54]

With that barrel they will be able to chamber the S&W 40 cal. also. So who can't wait for that?

Don't forget 38-40, although would need another cylinder.

 

[C-Dubs]

Similarly, I was wondering if a cylinder could be machined for .400 Corbon

 

[rangerbob]

We might as well rechamber it to 40/44 Woodstalker and be done with it. Bob!! :mrgreen:

 

[k22fan]

While I whole heartedly agree with all the criticism of this revolvers undesirable weight I might buy one anyway. My equally questionable 7 1/2" .357 Redhawk weighs 2 ounces more and I still keep it around for casual target shooting. Many other wise worthless guns are fun to shoot, I like 10 mm, and I especially like collector items. That is what I expect those that are not reamed to 10 mm Magnum will become.

I presume it will be possible to fire clipped .40 S&W cartridges when you do not have the time or inclination to reload. Those are in second place behind 9 mm for being the least expensive center fire factory revolver cartridge.

The big question is will my S&W Model 610 moon clips fit?

If a 6 shot .357 cylinder could be found it could be rechambered to .38-40 to make the revolver much more appealing to me as a dual cartridge gun but that's a huge if. 10 mm cylinders will be too short in the rear to headspace .38-40.

The problem is finding enough spare change to buy all of Ruger's tempting offerings.

 

[djw54]

. Many other wise worthless guns are fun to shoot, I like 10 mm, and I especially like collector items. That is what I expect those that are not reamed to 10 mm Magnum will become.

So, where does 10mm magnum take us in performance? Does it approach 41 mag? Would standard 10mm and 40s&w still work?

 

[FergusonTO35]

Well, they made the GP in .22 LR so I guess this follows Ruger's long tradition of making things much bigger and stronger than needed!

 

[cmonti77]

If they ever make it in a standard redhawk 4.2 inch version I’ll buy it. The ability to shoot 40 S&W out of a 10mm chambering adds a particular dimension of practicality in this instance, since 40 S&W is probably the most abundant handgun cartridge in this country.

 

[k22fan]

. Many other wise worthless guns are fun to shoot, I like 10 mm, and I especially like collector items. That is what I expect those that are not reamed to 10 mm Magnum will become.

So, where does 10mm magnum take us in performance? Does it approach 41 mag? Would standard 10mm and 40s&w still work?

Yes and yes. First I must admit that I have not owned a 10 mm Magnum or reloaded for one. The 10 mm Magnum case is 0.035" shorter than .41 Magnum and of course 0.010" smaller in diameter. While its lower powder capacity can not provide as much power at the same pressure, 10 mm Magnum does "approach," but not equal, .41 Magnum with 200 grain bullets. However, S&W's 10 mm cylinders are a lot shorter than their .41 Magnum cylinders making the .41 Magnum a better performer with heavy bullets in S&Ws. This new Ruger appears to have the standard length cylinder so if you could find heavy 10 mm bullets you could seat them further out. You'd also be trading the .41 magnum bullets' crimp grooves and the seating die's roll crimp for the option of firing less expensive factory cartridges in moon clips.

 

[cas6969]

I hear .401 Powermag is next.



Nah... this is Ruger's normally of almost giving the customers what they want. Many ask for a GP100 in 10mm, some overly cautious engineer say "lets do this instead". Viola! Instant boat anchor. I do wonder if they're have some collector appeal years down the road if they flop.

 

[dixie884]

If the headspace is right for the rim making the chamber the right length should be all it takes for the .401????????????

 

[Onty]

http://www.ruger.com/products/superRedhawkStandard/specSheets/5524.html

We're always looking for new offerings from Ruger, with the GP100 in 10mm being a "frequent" request.
Now they have given us the 10mm in a revolver, but it's the Super Redhawk. The SR is a very fine revolver, but it's biggish.

Thoughts?

What's next, SRH in 30 Carbine and 22 Hornet?

 

[sd550]

http://www.ruger.com/products/superRedhawkStandard/specSheets/5524.html

We're always looking for new offerings from Ruger, with the GP100 in 10mm being a "frequent" request.
Now they have given us the 10mm in a revolver, but it's the Super Redhawk. The SR is a very fine revolver, but it's biggish.

Thoughts?

What's next, SRH in 30 Carbine and 22 Hornet?

I heard that the .25ACP was next to keep from stressing the frame !!!

 

[wizzard]

I don't disagree with the criticism to this point. However, on a positive note, I remember during the most recent ammo crunch, 10mm ammo being plentiful on store shelves. (give me a break, I'm trying)

 

[smith1961]

I hear .401 Powermag is next.



Nah... this is Ruger's normally of almost giving the customers what they want. Many ask for a GP100 in 10mm, some overly cautious engineer say "lets do this instead". Viola! Instant boat anchor. I do wonder if they're have some collector appeal years down the road if they flop.

Oh what you just said 100%! This will be another instant "collectible of the week" from Ruger and their distributors! 1/3rd will shoot them (10mm fanatics), 1/3rd will lovingly wrap them in a beaver blanket and vacuum seal them, and the other third will wait 5-10 years and sell trade em off for the .41 GNR version due out in 2026.........
:lol:
Now can I PLEASE get my darned .41 mag Vaquero produced?!?!?

 

[k22fan]

Two changes would help this revolver sell. A 7th chamber and a lighter barrel. At the least Ruger could shorten the barrel to reduce weight. However, it still would be a rather large 10 mm and the 10 mm's best reloads are only slightly more powerful than .357.

 

[Don Lovel]

WRONG GUN, a GP sized utility revolver in 40 S&W/10mm moonclips is a great idea in 3", 4" and even 6" models that would sell good
Huge hogleg in 10mm, well I would rather have some real horsepower cartridge choices in a frame as big as the Super Redhawk as it already comes with.

 

[eveled]

I'd rather a 10mm/40 cal Blackhawk.

 

[dakota1911]

Another I would rather have a Blackhawk. Take the 357/9mm I recently bought and make it in 10mm/40S&W. I would be a buyer.

 

[Buckeye Bill]

I guess that I am a fool.
Never owned a SRH. Never even fired one.
Have 44 mag covered with a Smith 629 6 inch.
Have a few Glocks in 10MM that are light and dependable.
Load for 10MM and have LOTS of brass.
Did not have a revolver that is as easy to mount optics on as the SRH.
Already had a usable optic ready to mount.
Kind of made me feel warm and fuzzy when I picked it up at the recent show.
Guy offered me a screaming deal if I could pay cash.
I kind of needed an anchor for my kayak.




Just another toy for weekends.

Bill

 

[biglmbass]

You're in luck. Stainless B'hawks in 10mm/40 are available in two barrel lengths.

Another I would rather have a Blackhawk. Take the 357/9mm I recently bought and make it in 10mm/40S&W. I would be a buyer.

 

[biglmbass]

So, is it accurate Bill?

 

[Buckeye Bill]

Only been out once. Shot from a sand bag at 25 yards. Grouped tight. Excited about getting out again for some more testing.

 

[JStacy]

I love the 10MM I have a Colt Delta, RIA Tactical and S&W 610 of 1989 in 10MM The Redhawk is a good gun just wish they would make a GP100 in 10MM in my opinion it would be more "right sized" for the cartridge.
I also have a standard Red hawk , 7 1/2", barrel in 357 mag, and it gets any of the 357 loads that are just too hot for my other 357 revolvers and it eats them like candy.