sr9c trigger work/question

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martinj001

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Hey all, new to the forum and have a recently purchased SR9c. So far, I am very happy with this gun. I've got about 200 rounds through it, and I plan for this to be my everyday carry gun. I am also thinking about using it in some IDPA competition, if for no other reason than to get "practice" in presentation from my concealment holster (a Comp-Tac MTAC).

So, I'm thinking about doing a little trigger work on this. I've already removed the mag disconnect. Now I'm debating my options in regards to trigger. I could remove the stock stuff and polish away at some points to smooth it out, etc. Next option would be the Ghost drop-in (Ultimate) 3.5lb trigger that takes no modification to install. Then there are either of the Ghost trigger bars that do require modification.

Now to my question, anyone able to compare any of these trigger options for me? How would the drop-in Ghost trigger compare to the other Ghost triggers?

Thanks in advance!
 
Hi, I have an SR9 and, just recently, the SR9C. I installed the Ghost Rocket 3.5 in the SR9 about a year ago. It made a world of difference in the trigger. Immediately the trigger felt 100% better, no gritty feeling, very light and short pull, and most importantly, no overtravel. It is the overtravel that most affects your accuracy in my opinion with the stock SR9 trigger. The trigger on the SR9 is now very, very good. That is not just my opinion, but the opinion of everyone that has shot it. People compare it to a good 1911 trigger now.

For the SR9C, I had high hopes of a good stock trigger based upon everyone's comments. When I picked mine up after buying it online, I thought the trigger was horrible. Of course, I was comparing it to the SR9 with the Ghost Rocket in it. I found the stock SR9C trigger to be gritty, long, and had tremendous overtravel. I shot it with the stock trigger and did not like it.

I immediately then installed a Ghost Rocket 3.5 in it, just like the SR9. Wow, what a difference! After about 200 rounds now, it is near perfect. Very short trigger pull, nice and light, and absolutely no overtravel. The reset is extremely fast, just like on the SR9. Quick followup shots are accurate and a breeze. It is my CCW. It is very thin, short, and easy to carry concealed (IWB). The manual safety is a major plus in my mind. After going through the NRA personal protection courses, flipping the safety off is second nature.

Also, contrary to some comments, I like the loaded chamber indicator. It does not affect the sights at all.

From about 15 yards in, the SR9C is just as accurate as the SR9. I consider both of them to as accurate as you are up to 25 yards out with the upgraded triggers.

By the way, I have no affiliation with Ghost. I just think that their Rocket 3.5 makes the SR9 series a really great gun.

Good luck to all.
 
Thanks much for your thoughts. I am comparing my SR9c trigger to a S&W M&P 45 trigger that I have done some work on, and I have to agree with you, it feels gritty and long--hence my desire to do some work to it.

Did you use the drop-in Ghost trigger, or the one that requires fitting? Thanks again!
 
I initially tried the Ultimate drop in trigger on the SR9. It made it lighter, but did not address the overtravel. I exchanged it for the Rocket. That is the unit that requires some fitting. It takes about a half an hour to do the whole job once you are familar with how to take apart the SR. Just make sure that you use a micrometer to measure the trigger control tab on the Rocket before and after each filing so that you do not file off too much each time that you fit it together. Since I did it on the SR9 earlier, it took about 15 minutes for me on the SR9C. It is well worth it.

In my opinion, I would not waste your time on the Ultimate. Just get the Rocket. You will not regret it.
 
Thanks Josh, pretty much exactly what I was looking for! I will be very happy if I can get my SR9c trigger to about a 5lb pull weight with less overtravel and shorter reset. Ghost was very prompt, that's for sure, appears my order was shipped the same day I ordered. Should have it early this coming week. :)
 
Could someone explain to me when filing down the part, what are you exactly looking for in worrying about filing it too short or too much? Meaning what are you actually striving for when filing down the part (obviously to fit it, but fit it how?)
 
There is no textbook answer here. You have to install the Rocket and try the trigger. If it the trigger won't even pull, the tab is too long. You need to file it down and repeat the process until the trigger is able to break. Once it breaks you should be good to hit the range and try out your new trigger. Sometimes it takes a while to get it where you need it, just don't get frustrated when it takes a few repetitive installs to get there.

Josh
 
Ah alright, that is exactly the kind of answer I was looking for, thanks Jhearne. I know its a time and test kind of installation, but you just made it that much more clear. Thanks!
 
I got the Ultimate. It was a mistake. I put the stock connector back into the SR9c. I haven't returned the Ultimate yet, but should exchange it for a Rocket. I could have this done for me at the next Orlando gunshow, as GHOST always has a table there, and they do the work quickly...while you walk around and see other tables.
I've been rather busy, otherwise occupied, so I'm just slow to act.
Sonnytoo
 
Yep Josh is right. The length of the tab relates to how far the trigger can be pulled. The shorter the tab, the farther the trigger can be depressed. You want it just short enough to allow the trigger to fire and reset RELIABLY, but long enough as to not allow much overtravel. Good luck!
 
I used the rough side of a sharpening stone to "file" down the TCT on the Rocket. I measured the length of the TCT before and after each "filing." I took off .01" each time. Worked great and was easy to do.

Good luck. You will be very happy with the trigger after installing the Rocket.
 
^What did you use to measure the TCT with? Digital calipers? If I don't own any, is there anything else you would suggest that I could more easily obtain or have?
 
You can gauge the cuts your taking with a business card. There should be one included in the order, and they measure to about .010" :)

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Josh
 
lol, thanks, they're my favorite I've used so far at work. Not a cheap set tho.

Josh
 
Well, the install went smoothly for the most part. Shot the safety detent spring across the room once (luckily it only took me 5 minutes to find), and also managed to shoot the trigger bar reset spring across the room--don't ask me how I managed that one, lol (that one was a little harder to find). After a couple hours, and taking it apart and putting it back together NUMEROUS times, all is good. Managed to fire about 200 rounds through it today with not a single hiccup. :)
 
Much better. I do notice a "hump" when dry firing, almost like the trigger has two stages. I did not notice this in live firing though. The break is crisp, clean, and short--very little if any overtravel now that the Ghost Rocket has been installed. No idea what the trigger weight is, but I don't really care, as the trigger feels much, much better.
 
On the "hump" or two-stage feeling with the trigger, check that the ends of coil spring that attach to the connector are not installed incorrectly or backwards as that will cause that feeling. You should not have that two-stage feeling.
 
I never actually disconnected that spring, so it shouldn't be any different than before the install. I'll check to make sure there's nothing askew though, just to be sure...
 
Ghost says it doesn't void the warranty, but what does Ruger say? I am just picking up my new SR9C and don't want to void the warranty in case I have any defect. I want to install the Rocket.
 
It won't void the Ruger "Warranty", but Ruger will remove any aftermarket parts (aside from sights) like the Ghost Trigger Connectors and replace them with factory parts. You might not get the aftermarket parts back, and they might charge you for the parts/labor. Ruger is required (by law) to return any gun back to the customer as it left the plant when it was new, IIRC.

If you have a Rocket or any other Ghost trigger installed and have any problems with function, I highly recommend that you replace the Ghost with the Ruger connector to check function. If with the Ruger part(s) the same problem persists then it's ok to send to Ruger. However if the problem disappears once you switch from Ghost to Ruger, then it's the Ghost that's the issue, or you had an issue with your installation. In which case you'll want to swap back to the Ghost to re-confirm there's an issue with the parts, not your work. Contact them about getting a replacement part if the problem persists.

Josh
 
I ended up going back to my stock trigger setup for the time being. The "staging" I was feeling in my Ghost Rocket install has not gone away, so I am going to have to mess with it some more. At the same time though, I'm considering just keeping it stock, as the stock trigger isn't horrible, and I'd hate to have legal issues down the road if I ever needed to use it for self defense just because of a modified trigger (while its not a huge concern, its a concern of mine nonetheless).
 
I originally bought my SR9 in June this year and have competed in the local IDPA matches, I've put over 1500 round through the gun and very happy with it overall.

I have been lurking on this thread for awhile and ended up buying the Ghost Rocket 3.5 trigger with the hopes of improving my speed in the matches and had a friend install it for me. He and I couldn't tell the difference between the stock and the rocket triggers. The same perceived poundage and trigger pull with either one. We switched them back and forth for a bit just to see and no clear difference. This last Sunday I had another person who just bought the same model SR9 (black) and we tried them both side by side and still no clear difference.

I just emailed Ghost and they came back about checking for over-travel which I said there was none because when the gun fired, the trigger had already hit the back wall and was stopped by the trigger (little tab) itself. On that news Ghost had no idea what to do and offered to replace/refund it.

I'm still perplexed on what could of gone wrong here, and my concern is that I want the lighter trigger pull. Anybody have any ideas on why I don't see a difference?

Thank you. (ps. sorry for jacking the thread)
 
Josh above is correct. I called Ruger and talked to their semi-auto service department. They said that if the installed part caused a problem, that problem would not be a warranty repair. Also, when they repair a pistol, if they replace any assembly or parts where the mod is, they will reinstall factory parts.
 
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