Sr9c Part #54

[Tym2getbizeee]

Need some help, I took out my sr9c to show a friend of mine when I noticed that the #54 Magazine Latch Pivot Pin was sticking out of the left side of the gun. I was wondering what this part actually does because it was sticking out pretty far and what might have caused it to slide out?

 

[ecf]

That part does exactly what the description implies; the magazine latch pivots on this pin. I have the same problem with my SR9c except that mine works out the right side of the frame.

I contacted Ruger via email regarding this and in their reply, suggested I call and they would most likely send me a new pin. I did call last Friday, but they were pretty busy and a tech has yet to return my call.

I posted a question about this problem on the "other forum" and it seems that more than a few folks have experienced the same issue. I'll let you know what Ruger has to say when they get back to me.

 

[jhearne]

It's only held in place by friction against the frame and the actual metal latch for the Mag Well. If you've ever taken this pin out yourself you run the risk of loosening the pin and over time it can work it's way loose. However, some like yourselves have found that it can just work out over time. This is mainly due to the way the button and Mag Latch work.

The pin will either stay in place with friction against the frame and the latch will rotate against the pin, or the pin and latch will rotate as one against the frame. There's also the 3rd scenario where the pin could rotate against both parts the frame and latch. The first condition is the most ideal. If the Pin doesn't rotate, then there's no reason it should move.

Hopefully this clears up some concern and doesn't confuse . Sometimes you can reseat the pin and it can take care of itself with just that. Other times it will work itself loose again. Just keep an eye on it, or call Ruger and see about a new pin and/or latch.

Josh

 

[Sal1950]

Mine did that too, here's what I did,
Next time it works out (or you could tap it so it just slightly sticks out one side) put one tiny drop of purple loctite (222) in the hole on the opposite side and then tap it back into it's centered position. Wipe off the access and let the weapon sit for 24 hours before firing again.
So far so good here.
Sal

 

[Tym2getbizeee]

Thanks for the responses. I actually just tapped it back in. Gonna put around 200 rounds through it today so we'll see what happens.

 

[ecf]

Josh, thanks for the explanation on what might cause it to work out. I first noticed mine was working out after the first 200 rounds. Tapped it back in and after another 100, it was working out again. Maybe Ruger could machine a pin that was slightly smaller in the center section that would allow the latch to rotate without binding on the pin.

I'll see what they come up for a fix before going the Locktite route. Since it seems to be a fairly common problem, maybe they'll find a solution rather than simply replace the pin.

Ed

 

[jhearne]

No problem, mine has walked some after going into that assembly for a video I made but I don't shoot enough to worry about it so I just push it back after I notice it, if I ever do.

Josh

 

[Tym2getbizeee]

Got back from the range and went to clean the gun when I noticed that it crept out again, but not as much. It was coming out the right and not the left like I mentioned in my op. I just pushed it back in, but if I ever notice that it starts to go back in easier I will intact Ruger. Another 200 down range without any problems. I'm thinking about changing out my sights to the XS ones. Anyone here have any experience with them?

 

[jhearne]

You might try taking the pin completely out and reseating it.

As for the XS sights, I'm not sure, just have a gunsmith do the install. Another member here just had a set of Novaks from shopRuger.com installed. He seemed to like them, don't think there's been a range report yet though.

Josh

 

[rickerb23]

Went and looked at mine. The pin was sticking out! Just pushed it back with a quarter. It was too tough to push back in with my fingers. I'll keep an eye on it!

 

[ecf]

Received a call from Ruger tech this morning and described the walking pin problem. I also mentioned that others were having the same problem. He wants me to send the gun in to be checked/repaired, but after giving some thought to Josh's post above, I took a closer look at the pin while pressing the magazine release button.

I'm not seeing any rotational movement in the pin, but I also haven't seen any lateral movement either since it was last tapped back in. Maybe its happy now and will stay put. :lol:

Ruger is sending a shipping label that has to be used within 10 days, so I think I'll put a few hundred rounds through it this week and if the pin stays put, consider it fixed. I also put a drop of oil on the magazine latch so hopefully that will solve the problem and I won't need to send it in.

 

[Tym2getbizeee]

Keep us updated. I wont be hitting the range until Sunday. Also, the prices here for ammo is slowly increasing! WTF! I might need to get a .22 because it's going to get expensive shooting anything else.

 

[ecf]

Ran down to Walmart this afternoon and picked up 200 rounds of the cheap Federal stuff, $10.47/box of 50. That's about the cheapest I've found in this area (Southern NM). WWB is $23 & change for 100.

Should have time in the next day or two to put a few holes in some desert vegetation. I'll let you know how it goes.

Ed

 

[Tym2getbizeee]

Federal out here last week was $9.97...now it's $12.97! I hate living in Cali sometimes.

 

[ecf]

I moved from San Diego 20 years ago and never looked back.

 

[john16443]

I moved to San Diego 25 years ago and hope I never have to leave.

9mm only jumped to $10.47 at the numerous WM's in this area that I've visited.

 

[Sal1950]

I moved to San Diego 25 years ago and hope I never have to leave.

Best weather climate in the 48, but worst political climate in the US, even with the Republican Govinator.
I'll take Florida any day, which is where I'll be relocating as soon as I can dump my current property in IL..
Sal

 

[SSNimrod]

Part #54 has me really mad also. Had the gun for 2-3 months, no issues, brought the SR9C on a road trip. The 4 hours in the truck of my car actually moved the pin out ¼” (maybe more). Pushed it in, now every 50 rounds #54 is popping out. So I went to the local gun store (where I bought it) today, their response was “Call Ruger”. They wanted nothing to do with it. So I’m aggravated.

 

[Verndog]

I went to the local gun store (where I bought it) today, their response was “Call Ruger”. They wanted nothing to do with it. So I’m aggravated.

This should not be a big issue to fix. 1) A drop of loctite should solve the problem 2) if not tap the pin out, put a slight bend on it, and tap back in to tighten it up.

 

[SSNimrod]

I went to the local gun store (where I bought it) today, their response was “Call Ruger”. They wanted nothing to do with it. So I’m aggravated.

This should not be a big issue to fix. 1) A drop of loctite should solve the problem 2) if not tap the pin out, put a slight bend on it, and tap back in to tighten it up.

I'll let you know what Ruger says on Tuesday

 

[ecf]

I finally had a chance to put another 100 rounds through mine to see if a dab of lube on the latch assembly would make any difference. I must have pushed the mag release button a hundred times (from each side) and couldn't detect that the pin moved at all, either rotationally as suggested by jhearne, or laterally.

After about 100 rounds, the pin had definately moved to the right some; about flush with but not sticking out the right side of the frame.

I have the prepaid mailer that Ruger sent and will decide tomorrow if I'm going to send it in. Probably will because even though resetting it is a minor inconvenience, it still shouldn't be necessary.

The other solutions suggested would probably work, but if a couple of us send it in, maybe they'll fix it on future production guns and save someone else the aggravation.

 

[Tym2getbizeee]

Going out tomorrow to put a couple hundred rounds through and will report back with an update on mine.

 

[Tym2getbizeee]

Forgot to mention! Last Sunday I put 200 rounds through and the pin moved out to where it was flush with the grip. I just pushed it back in.

 

[SSNimrod]

I spoke to Ruger today, their response:

“Get a 1/8” punch and peen it over”. :shock:

Yes I’m disappointed with Ruger

 

[Verndog]

I spoke to Ruger today, their response:

“Get a 1/8” punch and peen it over”. :shock:

Yes I’m disappointed with Ruger

Sorry but that is lame advise. You cannot peen the plastic because the pin will just shear it off, and peening the pin will groove the plastic. First try a drop of loctite on each side of pin, or even a drop of superglue then wipe clean. Next option, pull pin and put a slight bend on it and tap back in.

 

[SSNimrod]

I spoke to Ruger today, their response:

“Get a 1/8” punch and peen it over”. :shock:

Yes I’m disappointed with Ruger

Sorry but that is lame advise. You cannot peen the plastic because the pin will just shear it off, and peening the pin will groove the plastic. First try a drop of loctite on each side of pin, or even a drop of superglue then wipe clean. Next option, pull pin and put a slight bend on it and tap back in.

I agree, and I'm aggravated; the pin falls out on car rides (Serious). Its a new gun. It’s not rocket science, drill a hole and stick a pin in it.

 

[Verndog]

I agree, and I'm aggravated; the pin falls out on car rides (Serious). Its a new gun. It’s not rocket science, drill a hole and stick a pin in it.

There are tolerances on the hole size and tolerances on the pin. Your relying on a light press fit which leaves about .0002 to play with. It's possible you have a slightly undersize pin. If it moves that easy then I'd hit them back and say you aren't comfortable distorting the plastic material as a fix, a please send 2 new pins. They cant cost them more then $1.00 ea. Last resort once on for all fix, have your pin plated with cad plating (.0002-.0004), and that will upsize the pin a bit.

 

[SSNimrod]

Ruger sent me the paperwork, the gun is going back to them tomorrow. Now I need to write them a letter

 

[SSNimrod]

I agree, and I'm aggravated; the pin falls out on car rides (Serious). Its a new gun. It’s not rocket science, drill a hole and stick a pin in it.

There are tolerances on the hole size and tolerances on the pin. Your relying on a light press fit which leaves about .0002 to play with. It's possible you have a slightly undersize pin. If it moves that easy then I'd hit them back and say you aren't comfortable distorting the plastic material as a fix, a please send 2 new pins. They cant cost them more then $1.00 ea. Last resort once on for all fix, have your pin plated with cad plating (.0002-.0004), and that will upsize the pin a bit.

Shipped the gun yesterday, Ruger will get it today. In my letter to Ruger I took your suggestion about the pin = Put the correct size pin in the hole.

We'll see what Ruger does

 

[Tym2getbizeee]

I shipped mine out on Thursday. Weird thing is that I'm from Cali, address is supposed to go to AZ but when I looked to track it, it went from Oakland to Louisville KY? How the hell did it get all the way over there before getting to AZ?