Sopwith Camel

[FastEd]

The Camel in the Air Force Museum was constructed entirely from the original blue prints.

 

[TucsonDirt]

Very nice!
Where's Snoopy?

 

[tookalisten]

Beautiful!

 

[WendyZXZ]

That is very nice!

 

[williamc]

This is one of my favorite planes.

I saw one of these at the Shuttleworth collection in England. They were rebuilding the airframe, so it didn't have any fabric on the wings or fuselage.

The thing looked like a death trap, like the slightest wrong move would snap it into thousands of tiny twigs and pieces of wire. And in WWI they were shooting at each other. Those pilots were either unbelievably brave or suicidally stupid.

I have nothing but awe for those airmen.

 

[George Tucker]

What a neat Airplane.

 

[SPBhawk]

Love that one and the P51D.

Very nice

 

[skip]

thnx for posting that pic....

 

[Selena]

Interesting bit of historical engineering. You have to have me drunk, drugged and unconscious to get me in one of those things but it would be cool to see it fly.

 

[ncrobb]

A very worthwhile project; that is awesome! I worked at a small airport while I was in college and saw all kinds of bailing wire and duct tape fixes. I jump in that in a heartbeat and go flying. I would like to see how the guns are timed to not shoot the prop.

 

[Jimbo357mag]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hLiNaz2-lk

Ten, twenty, thirty, forty, fifty or more...

 

[J Miller]

I've never seen one of those without the skin. My dumb question is; where do they put the gas tank?

Joe

 

[Wyandot Jim]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hLiNaz2-lk

Ten, twenty, thirty, forty, fifty or more...

Looks like a Da Jagger to me. Got one with a K&B 40 on it

 

[Wyandot Jim]

I've never seen one of those without the skin. My dumb question is; where do they put the gas tank?

Joe

Gas tank and the Oil/castor oil tk. is in front of the pilot same as in my 2 winger

 

[Wyandot Jim]

Interesting bit of historical engineering. You have to have me drunk, drugged and unconscious to get me in one of those things but it would be cool to see it fly.

Have you ever done anything that involved a little bit of danger :wink: :wink: :wink: I would fly it in a heartbeat in fact have flown a lot worst junk in my lifetime and at 71 I'm still here

 

[Wyandot Jim]

A very worthwhile project; that is awesome! I worked at a small airport while I was in college and saw all kinds of bailing wire and duct tape fixes. I jump in that in a heartbeat and go flying. I would like to see how the guns are timed to not shoot the prop.

The guns are fired with an interrupter gear that runs off of the camshaft. The German Enidecker was the first plane to be able to fire with that device. The Brits copied it from a shot down one. That is where the Term "The Fokker Scrounge" came from.
Check it out on the web for more info.

 

[DRMC]

Not a pilot but would like to ride in it. Cool plane

 

[Selena]

Interesting bit of historical engineering. You have to have me drunk, drugged and unconscious to get me in one of those things but it would be cool to see it fly.

Have you ever done anything that involved a little bit of danger :wink: :wink: :wink: I would fly it in a heartbeat in fact have flown a lot worst junk in my lifetime and at 71 I'm still here

I had my first and last ride in a bi-plane with my brother piloting who decided to play crop duster. I would love to examine the engineering of that machine, especially the control structures, but only from the ground. I will ride in the "Duck" but only as the photographer and either Dad or Hubby flying the thing.

 

[Wyandot Jim]

That is to bad he did that to you. So are your Dad, Hubby, and Brother all pilots and what is "The Duck"?

 

[Selena]

That is to bad he did that to you. So are your Dad, Hubby, and Brother all pilots and what is "The Duck"?

The "Duck" is my brother's airplane, I'm not sure of the vintage. All I know for sure it was made in the 1940's and at one time had pontoons (floats?) thus the name. My Gramps called it a "Grasshopper." Supposedly Ed (my brother) bought it military surplus.

At one time he had a vicious and completely socially unacceptable machine he called a Steerman that when my sister in law regained her senses made him get rid of. It was the bi-plane I mentioned before. Hubby has been licensed to fly since he was in high school. I'm not sure how long Dad has been flying but I know Gramps insisted that he as well as my uncle and aunt learn how.

 

[Wyandot Jim]

WOW That is quite a flying family

The Grasshopper/ L series consisted of several different manufactures of liaison planes used in the military.
A true Duck was built by Grumman in 1937 and is a Amphibian Biplane J2F
To bad he was told to get rid of the Staerman. A wonderful plane that has gone up a bunch in price. I have heard statements from my Wifie also. Like "It is either me or that damn plane" Well Old Gal going to miss you around hear

This is just one type of Grasshoppers a Piper J-3 Cub/L-4

Aeronca L-3

J2F Duck

Boing Stearman PT-17

WAS this you

 

[Selena]

WOW That is quite a flying family

The Grasshopper/ L series consisted of several different manufactures of liaison planes used in the military.
A true Duck was built by Grumman in 1937 and is a Amphibian Biplane J2F
To bad he was told to get rid of the Staerman. A wonderful plane that has gone up a bunch in price. I have heard statements from my Wifie also. Like "It is either me or that damn plane" Well Old Gal going to miss you around hear

Keep in mind that a series of aerial photographs of standing grain can make the difference between getting a crop in or losing priceless harvest time repairing a combine from falling into a washed out tile hole. Not to mention give insights on how well our fertilizer and weed control strategies have worked.

If he hadn't got rid of that... craft, he either would have lost his license to fly or killed himself, not to mention his wife. My brother cannot be trusted in a biplane. I realize that sounds harsh but it's a simple fact, the guy is an adrenaline junkie and there is something about that extra wing that brings it out in him. Something in the order of the aerial version of "hold my beer and watch this" only without the beer. As I said, once Jen regained her senses after the wedding the scary ones went. The timing was five minutes after she had her very first ride in that... that... craft. Then there was the bi-plane that he bought the pieces out of some farmer's barn when he was stationed in Germany then had shipped back here and rebuilt after his discharge. But it's not mentioned in polite company.

 

[ncrobb]

Thanks for the info Jim. I will check it out.

 

[Wyandot Jim]

Then there was the bi-plane that he bought the pieces out of some farmer's barn when he was stationed in Germany then had shipped back here and rebuilt after his discharge. But it's not mentioned in polite company.

Man I would love to here that story, but not from A Woman's point of view.
I have been buying selling, and rebuilding airplanes for 50 years now. I have never come across the barn find to rebuild. It is a shame you don't know what kind it was. I'm curious maybe you could ask your husband.
I think your opinion of your brother's flying might be a little to sister involved. Here again I have been hanging out with pilots for more than 50 years and I don't know of any that sounds like your brother. Yes I know of bad pilots, but don't know of any that want to go kill them selves know matter how many wings the plane has.
A shame he had a hobby that he must have loved and had to give it up because he was told to.
I guess me building and flying my own Biplane for 40 years puts me in the same category as your brother

 

[Selena]

Then there was the bi-plane that he bought the pieces out of some farmer's barn when he was stationed in Germany then had shipped back here and rebuilt after his discharge. But it's not mentioned in polite company.

Man I would love to here that story, but not from A Woman's point of view.
I have been buying selling, and rebuilding airplanes for 50 years now. I have never come across the barn find to rebuild. It is a shame you don't know what kind it was. I'm curious maybe you could ask your husband.
I think your opinion of your brother's flying might be a little to sister involved. Here again I have been hanging out with pilots for more than 50 years and I don't know of any that sounds like your brother. Yes I know of bad pilots, but don't know of any that want to go kill them selves know matter how many wings the plane has.
A shame he had a hobby that he must have loved and had to give it up because he was told to.
I guess me building and flying my own Biplane for 40 years puts me in the same category as your brother

Please remember, this is my big brother we are talking about. You are rarely going to hear about his good points from me. If you insist on "just the facts" he sold the bi-plane because his wife was pregnant and he simply couldn't afford to keep it. Not to mention he was offered 5X of what he had in the thing.

I'm told that he was talking cows to a German farmer and the guy mentioned he had some old parts lying around gathering rust. Engine, prop, landing wheel assembly and parts of the tail section of a Fokker biplane. With my uncle's help he got the engine running and pretty much built everything else from the ground out. He sold it to a gentleman in either Pennsylvania or Ohio (not sure which) simply because he wanted a new challenge.

Once again, although it galls me, an accurate assessment of Ed is he is on the norm a responsible husband, father and pilot. He has a tendency to find the limits of any machine he operates but would never attempt to push beyond those limits without good reason. If my Grandmother in Australia were on her deathbed and Ed offered to fly me there I would accept in a heartbeat and rest easy even with my kids in the aircraft.

Item last: You could never be in the same category as Ed in my eyes. I will exaggerate his negative qualities and underrate his positives and criticize him at the drop of a hat. He is my big brother and I am allowed to do that. Nobody else is. The reason I prefer to have Dad pilot for the crop photos has nothing to do with Ed's skill or piloting. In the aircraft Dad tends to share his knowledge of the history of our little slice of Indiana as well as his own memories of any particular part. When my uncle tried to tell me his stories I was too young and self centered to pay attention. I deeply regret that now that he is gone, I am not going to make the same mistake with my Dad.