Software update? Really????

[Kevin]

Gotta love this! A software update for my car. I stopped at the store on my way home and it did ask if I wanted to update now or later. I said now.

I did drive home… but this is ridiculous. I'm not sure why everything needs updates so often.

What a joke.

 

[Feel the 'Pane]

That's strange... my truck hasn't asked me for anything in the last 15yrs I've owned it.

 

[bigbillyboy]

Nice Jimmy there

 

[Jeepnik]

And folks wonder why I keep an ‘82 CJ instead of buying a new Gladiator.

 

[GasGuzzler]

So what if you had to do that all day but also had to set it up and wait for it to complete. What if you had 12 on the lot that cannot be sold until they're done. Oh yeah, what if all the updates install but the manufacturer's process fails on the last step, crashing the programming app and not delivering the programming code you need to get paid. What if...

 

[contender]

It's not just vehicles.

As I type this,, my main computer is doing some kind of update, or repair or whatever. It started yesterday afternoon, and says it's at least 50 more hours away from being done. I'm on my back-up computer,, purchased after my last computer crash.

 

[Johnnu2]

The good news is, so far, it hasn't caught fire in your garage at night.
I'm making preparations to maintain our two 'outdated' cars until we both croak.....

We're DOOMED......

J.

 

[bobski]

we arent...the new push button generation is.............

 

[coach]

Remember when you were just happy your car had an fm radio in it?
Now you hope your vehicle doesn’t get the blue screen of death and leaves you stranded or catch fire in your garage

 

[Johnnu2]

Remember when you were just happy your car had an fm radio in it?
Now you hope your vehicle doesn't get the blue screen of death and leaves you stranded or catch fire in your garage

I hate to admit this, but I almost always listen to the news channel on AM........... until last month when they closed it down and switched over to FM.
Have never used the CD player in my car........... BUT I do use the blue tooth for my FLIP-Phone...

J.

 

[rovernut]

So what if you had to do that all day but also had to set it up and wait for it to complete. What if you had 12 on the lot that cannot be sold until they're done. Oh yeah, what if all the updates install but the manufacturer's process fails on the last step, crashing the programming app and not delivering the programming code you need to get paid. What if...

Similar to my thoughts about 6 hours into a very long couple days cleaning up about 600 remote servers all over the country during the Crowdstrike fiasco.
Imagine 100's of thousands cars suddenly shutting down in the middle of roads all over the country. Not enough tow trucks in the world to handle that.

Tom

 

[gnappi]

My 09 truck hasn't gotten an upgrade, maybe because it doesn't have a connection to anything but the radio

This connectivity issue has gone too far. We went to get a new washing machine and I noticed that a coffee maker had WiFi. Egads!

 

[Jeepnik]

Hmm, my Tacoma has a setting that allows you to decide to do updates manually. I get the notifications then wait a few weeks before installing. Several times updates to the updates to the updates have occurred in just a couple of days.

Also, you can both opt out and disconnect your vehicle from the network. People have more control than they think or are just to ignorant or lazy to do anything but complain.

 

[gnappi]

So what if you had to do that all day but also had to set it up and wait for it to complete. What if you had 12 on the lot that cannot be sold until they're done. Oh yeah, what if all the updates install but the manufacturer's process fails on the last step, crashing the programming app and not delivering the programming code you need to get paid. What if...

Sound ominous but coded correctly, microcode "should" have the original copy stored in Non volatile (NV) ram and when a successful upgrade happens the pointer to the new upgraded code is set. If an upgrade fails for whatever reason the pointer is not reset and the original or last successful working code should automatically be the default.

Now that "assumes" the maker spent a few cents more for the extra NV ram space to make two copies of code always available.

 

[87flht]

That's strange... my truck hasn't asked me for anything in the last 15yrs I've owned it.

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You run on propane ?

 

[vito]

My 2016 Dodge Durango's software has never been updated at all. The built in GPS system is out of date, and sometimes the radio refuses to go on. But the transmission works just fine. Just got back from a 1,200 trip and averaged 24.5 mpg, driving at 80+ most of the time.

 

[Kevin]

Hmm, my Tacoma has a setting that allows you to decide to do updates manually. I get the notifications then wait a few weeks before installing. Several times updates to the updates to the updates have occurred in just a couple of days.

Also, you can both opt out and disconnect your vehicle from the network. People have more control than they think or are just to ignorant or lazy to do anything but complain.

Well, while I do like to complain and am lazy sometimes; I didn't know you could opt out of the updates.

But my home computer does updates, and I do know historically, it does run better when I do the updates as opposed to when I don't.

 

[Gopher]

 

[MaxMan]

Got one of those recalls for the Maverick. Tech came to the house and did it in about 45 minutes,

 

[bigbillyboy]

Got one of those recalls for the Maverick. Tech came to the house and did it in about 45 minutes,

Wow , now that is good customer relations ...

 

[bobski]

the only softwear my 76 c-10 has... is the seat.

 

[epags]

Two Toyotas...2005 and 2006. Only recall is when I have a flat after 4 years and have to buy a new set of tires.
OTOH the 2 desktops, 4 tablets and 2 smart phones are asking for updates every week or so.
I do have two tablets that are so old that there are no updates available.

 

[bobski]

i still have an XP and a vista that wont die. imagine that. all these years w/o updates and it still works. tells me...it didnt need what it got before they stopped updating it.

 

[MaxMan]

Wow , now that is good customer relations ...

I think the service department is overcrowded and this frees up the techs in the shop for real work.

 

[Johnnu2]

Hmm, my Tacoma has a setting that allows you to decide to do updates manually. I get the notifications then wait a few weeks before installing. Several times updates to the updates to the updates have occurred in just a couple of days.

Also, you can both opt out and disconnect your vehicle from the network. People have more control than they think or are just to ignorant or lazy to do anything but complain.

I KNOW that I'm way too ignorant and yearn for the days when a dumb-ass high school kid could jump into his car and drive forever.
He didn't even need a manual to turn on the heater........ It ain't easy being old in your world..!!!

J.

 

[Johnnu2]

Got one of those recalls for the Maverick. Tech came to the house and did it in about 45 minutes,

Took the techie 45 minutes to make it "OK" .... I had a Corvette for 45 years that never saw the inside of a dealership... (changed the brake fluid for the first time at the 30 year mark).... GEEZE.....

Maybe that's why there are more tow trucks (daily) at the Tesla dealer in town than there are delivery carriers..... It REALLY is frightening to see them all waiting in line to dump the dead marvels.

We're DOOMED.

J.

 

[BULL'S-EYE]

That's strange... my truck hasn't asked me for anything in the last 15yrs I've owned it.

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Now that's truck! I miss the good old days when when a truck was just that... A TRUCK! And, not the ridiculous 60 Grand+ glorified Cadillac's they somehow morphed into along the way...

 

[bigbillyboy]

Now that's truck! I miss the good old days when when a truck was just that... A TRUCK! And, not the ridiculous 60 Grand+ glorified Cadillac's they somehow morphed into along the way...

Yes , I miss them as well .

 

[GasGuzzler]

Sound ominous but coded correctly, microcode "should" have the original copy stored in Non volatile (NV) ram and when a successful upgrade happens the pointer to the new upgraded code is set. If an upgrade fails for whatever reason the pointer is not reset and the original or last successful working code should automatically be the default.

Now that "assumes" the maker spent a few cents more for the extra NV ram space to make two copies of code always available.

I tried to put emphasis on the fact we initiate events that complete where I can tell the software is updated yet the "serial data authentication" does not go through therefore the host app does not generate the claim code WE need as auto techs to get paid for the process.

 

[JMD101]

Similar to my thoughts about 6 hours into a very long couple days cleaning up about 600 remote servers all over the country during the Crowdstrike fiasco.
Imagine 100's of thousands cars suddenly shutting down in the middle of roads all over the country. Not enough tow trucks in the world to handle that.

Tom

I think the govt has already "imagined" it. how do you/we prevent "updates" or disabling code?