social distancing

I'm in an urban area in SE PA, I see almost no social distancing at all. I plan to hit the range this weekend, hoping for a nice lonely session. On a personal level my wife and I are failing miserably at social distancing at home :wink:
 
We've been out very little. Older folks distance themselves. Younger folks, not so much.

Keeps us home. Businesses may talk the talk of virus precautions, but the customers and employees don't walk the walk.
 
Glad to hear a range is open somewhere. Here in MD we are under a forced 'stay at home' order. Gun stores are open but ranges near me are closed. Of course I am old with underlying medical conditions so I take this virus very seriously.
 
I'm camped out on approximately 1,000 acres of BLM. I guess that's more distancing than socializing
I hear a little gunfire in the distance occassionally. It's pretty peaceful out here. :mrgreen:
 
Captain America said:
On a personal level my wife and I are failing miserably at social distancing at home :wink:

If your dealership closes, give it a week or so of being home......
Dave
 
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Grew up an only child on a farm and so that might have something to do with it, but I've been comfortable 'social distancing' all my damn life. You have to put your hand out for me to shake it and I'm not much of a hugger.

Fox Mike, if y'all have been ordered to stay at home what good does it do for the gun stores to be open or anything else for that matter?
 
Dave P. said:
Captain America said:
On a personal level my wife and I are failing miserably at social distancing at home :wink:
If your dealership closes, give it a week or so of being home......
Dave
Yeah, he'll be like this guy LOL :mrgreen: :13

www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOz-v06zb_c
 
If I "social distance" from Grouch Attack more than I already do, someone is going to have to sleep outside. She goes to work before I get up and fairly often goes to bed before I get in for the night. I went to town today for the first time in 2 weeks and unfortunately, had to hit 5 businesses(one twice) to get most of the parts I was looking for.
 
Went to the post office today. When I was there, there weren't many people in the lobby. There was plastic between the workers, and a big piece of plastic between you and the worker. But you still handed them your package, and your money and they made change and handed it to you. Not really sure how they could do it better, just didn't seem like they hit the target.
 
WAYNO said:
Businesses may talk the talk of virus precautions, but the customers and employees don't walk the walk.

Our grocery announced old person shopping for the first hour they were open. They didn't enforce it and all us old folks got mowed down by the kids running for TP. They also had a 5 item limit at the meat counter. I was glad to see that the woman with 20+ was told to decide which 5 she wanted.

blume357 said:
Grew up an only child on a farm and so that might have something to do with it, .....

My 4th great grandmother lived to 103. They said it was because she lived on a farm in upstate NY and was never exposed to diseases. When my dad was 1 year old the Spanish flu hit and he and his mom left town to live with her sister on the family farm in Midland, MI.
 
. But you still handed them your package, and your money and they made change and handed it to you.

We aren’t using cash. Just credit card or Apple Pay, then no exchange of anything or having to touch anyone at all.

We are ordering as much online as possible. Amazon Fresh delivers groceries.

In fact, I just helped my parents order online from their house in Arizona. One of those grocery stores where you can order online and then the store brings it out to your car for you.
 
As I told Son last night, I'm sort of fatalistic about the virus. I may get sick or maybe not. I'm being careful about hands to face contact and staying further away from strangers but I'm NOT going overboard. I saw people in town yesterday who maybe had reason to be worried and were wearing masks and gloves but for the most part, people were just keeping a bit more space and nothing more.
I went into Menards to pay my CC bill and the counter person who I visit with almost every time I'm in the store told the guy behind me to "get behind the line" which was a piece of tape on the floor the specified 6' back. She took my check and handed me a receipt which violated the "personal contact" to some extent.
I'm at far more risk at home than in public places.
 
Yesterday I had to buy a tiny little tool at Lowes to finish a job. You should have seen me avoiding people and zig zagging around the store like I owed them money :)

Picked up an Rx at the Walmart's drive thru.

My local grocery store was another story. Cash only because the CC system was down, no problem. They tried to tell everyone entering, but some slipped by resulting in an employee having to put a lot of stuff back on the shelves. At the other end of the 1st aisle I went to was the employee restocking. She was coughing or sneezing into the fold in her arm and apparently wiping her nose on her sleeve :shock:

You can't possibly turn around faster than I did without twisting the shoes right off your feet. I was NASCARing it around the store and when I got to the back, there was the same employee at the meat dept. still coughing/sneezing whatever into the fold in her arm while putting meat back on the shelf with her other hand. YGTBFKM! I got the manager and told her that it was a really bad time for an employee to have allergies/a cold/whatever while people my age were walking around with masks on.

My intolerance of fools has hit an all time high.
 
blume357 said:
Fox Mike, if y'all have been ordered to stay at home what good does it do for the gun stores to be open or anything else for that matter?
I would love to hear the Governor's response to that very question. Apparently gun stores are considered critical or essential businesses by some obscure law, but ranges are not. You may go to 'essential' locations if necessary. Grocery, health, supper to go places.
 
RSIno1 said:
Our grocery announced old person shopping for the first hour they were open. They didn't enforce it and all us old folks got mowed down by the kids running for TP.

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We have that here too. I have yet to go shopping since we've been on house arrest, but the news is showing old people with shopping carts wound all around the outside of the store, waiting to get in.
 
Grocery stores here are open 6 to 8 a.m. only for age 60-plus.

Last week one of our daughters volunteered to do our shopping so Friday night we texted her a list and she got it done.
 
WAYNO said:
We have that here too. I have yet to go shopping since we've been on
house arrest, but the news is showing old people with shopping carts wound all
around the outside of the store, waiting to get in.
That's the way it was, here, last week. This week the only line was of those not
"seniors". I got there about 06:30 (Monday) and walked straight in. Got what I
needed, checked out (self check) and they directed me to the other set of doors.
For this location it is South doors in, North doors out, and they have several people
there to assure things go properly. - - - - I was pleasantly surprised. :D
 
I went to Walmart to pick up some stuff for lunch and dinner. I was standing the required 6' from the person in front of me and this woman gets behind me hacking and coughing and not even covering up her mouth. I told her to back off. Way off or else. I was not very polite about it and was called a racist b-----d. Yes, the woman was black. Guess someone called security as the was removed from the store. Got home and first thing off with what I was wearing into the washing machine and under the hottest shower I could stand for a long time. Set the washer to hot only and got those clothes cleaned and I hope disinfected. Now it's just wait and see if I get sick. At my age (81) they'll probably tell me to just go home and die quietly. I refuse to comply!
Paul B.
 
I'm locked up in my house. Running out of empty cases to reload. My gun club is closed, and I won't go to the public range if they give away $20 bills.

I was looking out the window this morning and saw squirrels running on the fence. It took a lot of self-control not to go get the old .22.

It's illegal to shoot inside city limits. Now, tell that to the criminals!
 
I still don't know if the stay at home order is justified. But I also can't prove that it's not. So I do what the healthcare folks are begging us to do.

In the meantime, I see many of my neighbors, most of them not working, coming and going all day long, and seeing their visitors also come and go at will. Another neighbor, 75 years old, just had a nephew install a new kitchen floor. They finished up today, and they're now headed to Home Depot and to another relatives house in Vancouver to install a new floor there. I just don't get how all these folks insist they're abiding by the stay at home mandate.

I was in a car wreck two weeks ago. The insurance company was insistent I get a damage estimate, and they arranged for a contact-free body shop to do the estimate. As soon as the young guy figured out why I was there, he stuck his head in my window to greet me. :shock:

A couple days ago, I said I knew of nobody that has contracted this virus.

But just yesterday and today, we know of two folks in our extended circle that has died from this virus.

Again, if you're insistent that staying home is meaningless, then so be it. But it's unfair to then place yourself within the bubble of someone that is taking the compliance seriously.


If social distancing is the solution, then this bug is gonna be with us a long time.
 
The State of PA has begun their new revenue plan...

https://www.foxnews.com/us/coronavirus-stay-at-home-order-pennsylvania-ticket-drive-questioned-state-police-traffic-stop
 
Captain America said:
The State of PA has begun their new revenue plan...

https://www.foxnews.com/us/coronavirus-stay-at-home-order-pennsylvania-ticket-drive-questioned-state-police-traffic-stop

Same with other Tyrant States. NJ for example. There are limits to the kind of tyrannical dictats that are being imposed, and if they keep it up people are going to fight back. And I don't mean in the courts. The progressive/left/dems holler about blood in the streets over things like permitless carry, but they ain't seen nothing yet if they keep grinding their boots into our necks. :evil:
 
GunnyGene said:
Captain America said:
The State of PA has begun their new revenue plan...

https://www.foxnews.com/us/coronavirus-stay-at-home-order-pennsylvania-ticket-drive-questioned-state-police-traffic-stop

Same with other Tyrant States. NJ for example. There are limits to the kind of tyrannical dictats that are being imposed, and if they keep it up people are going to fight back. And I don't mean in the courts. The progressive/left/dems holler about blood in the streets over things like permitless carry, but they ain't seen nothing yet if they keep grinding their boots into our necks. :evil:

I believe you’re absolutely correct.
 
Captain America said:
GunnyGene said:
Captain America said:
The State of PA has begun their new revenue plan...

https://www.foxnews.com/us/coronavirus-stay-at-home-order-pennsylvania-ticket-drive-questioned-state-police-traffic-stop

Same with other Tyrant States. NJ for example. There are limits to the kind of tyrannical dictats that are being imposed, and if they keep it up people are going to fight back. And I don't mean in the courts. The progressive/left/dems holler about blood in the streets over things like permitless carry, but they ain't seen nothing yet if they keep grinding their boots into our necks. :evil:

I believe you’re absolutely correct.

The jury is still out on whether I'm correct or not. But there is this from King Cuomo:

https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/if-ny-gov-cuomo-can-use-nat-guard-troops-to-grab-ventilators-why-not-guns/

If NY Gov Cuomo Can Use National Guard Troops to Grab Ventilators, Why Not Guns?

If Cuomo can get away with taking equipment — which he’s said “the entire state of New York” needs — to benefit New York City, what else can he rationalize? Be sure to check out his garden hose analogy.

Cuomo says his house is on fire. So he’s sending National Guard troops — wait…where do demographics show most NYNG troops come from? — to steal said neighbor’s garden hose because his own house is engulfed.

But it’s all good, because he promises to pay for the hose later if he doesn’t return it (how do you return used, contaminated PPE?). Too bad about the neighbor’s burnt-out house and the dead family inside. At least their hose will be paid for.

Now, we all know that Fredo’s big brother isn’t exactly a friend of the Second Amendment. Suppose he were to apply this same rationale to firearms. Imagine him declaring the rising NYC crime wave to be another COVID19-related emergency.

Using the ventilator and PPE precedent, he could sign another executive order directing any surviving Guard units to confiscate firearms from upstaters and other unfavored deplorables (the ventilators and PPE are private property in private hospitals), to better arm NYC law enforcement as they deal with the city’s “unmanageable” crime.

By Cuomo’s standards, that isn’t even an uncompensated taking, because he’s promising to return them at some vague, undefined future time when the guns are no longer needed. That, or pay for them. Maybe. Eventually.

If the courts allow Cuomo’s medical gear grab, there is absolutely nothing he can’t appropriate for the state. And if he follows through on the move, no Vegas oddsmaker will make book on his chances of survival if one or two up-staters die for lack of an stolen ventilator.
 
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