Sigh. More California bashing.

[wolfsong]

In another thread here, the periodical California bashing has raised its ugly head yet again. In rponse, I offer these numerical facts. While there is much to hold disdain for in California, there are other aspects that you just can't live without. For your consideration:

California is the nation's leader in almond growing. It is also the nation's leading dairy state, with milk and cream being its greatest export, followed by grapes.

Here are some percentages to ponder:

Pomegranates - 100% of nation's crop
Artichokes - 99
Kiwis - 97
Olives - 96
Figs - 96
Pluots - 95
Plums & prunes - 94
Brussels sprouts - 93
Avocados - 90
Nectarines - 89
Garlic - 85
Celery - 83
Grapes - 83
Dates - 82
Cauliflower - 82
Broccoli - 81
Lemons - 79
Honey dew melons - 77
Tomatoes - 76
Lettuce - 73
Nuts - many varieties - 65
Carrots - 62
Strawberries - 59
Spinach - 54
Tangerines - 58
Asparagus - 47
Cantaloupes - 46
Peaches - 44
Limes - 42
Oranges - non-Valencia - 37 (Valencias are used for orange juice. Florida leads production of juice oranges. Those Navel oranges that you like to peel and eat come from California)

California also contributes to the beef, poultry, wool and cotton consumption of the nation and the world. You can look those numbers up, if you wish.

While some other states provide larger numbers of some staples such as wheat, oats, corn and potatoes, California fills the pantries and tables of the nation with all the rest, by comparison. What grows in Tennessee, besides some very pretty mountains?

Laugh and hate all you care to. Just remember to thank a California farmer for his contributions to your well fed life.

Peace and God bless, Wolfsong.

 

[Bullseye57]

I believe everyone would agree, California has an ample supply of fruits, nuts, and flakes.

R,
Bullseye {ex-Californian}

 

[frank n texas]

And liberals.... :lol:

 

[Dan in MI]

Can I still bash California Wolfie?

I don't eat a lot of the items listed. :lol:

 

[Rick Courtright]

Can I still bash California Wolfie?

I don't eat a lot of the items listed. :lol:

Hi,

Can I bash Michigan, Dan?

I don't drive a Chevy, Ford or any of those "Imported from Detroit" things... :lol:

Rick C

 

[crewdog05]

I really like most of the list except for Brussels sprouts, nastiest thing I have ever had to eat. Ca. was my home from 1969 until 2010, so many things I miss, but the general political climate got to be more than I could tolerate, I have no issue with those who can continue to live there, can't rule out going back but there would have to be radical changes in the way things are run there for me to return. Only visit the wife's relatives there now. Wolfsong, I would never bash you personally, but the politicians that run the state have my contempt, they have truly screwed up what is in my opinion the most beautiful state in the U.S.A. and I have seen most of them, all have their merits but CA. truly has more than all the rest.

 

[ronto]

I personally know farmers in the central valley, they are NOT liberal progressive Democrats. California politics are dominated by the SF flakes and LA freeloaders.

 

[Kevin]

Neat:
I've driven up the 101 from Santa Barbara to San Fran and somewhere along the way we stopped and saw an artichoke farm. Can't find any pictures at the moment. But it's very scenic. I've been to California a lot and can't see why people complain. It's very nice, but I don't live there and don't pay taxes or deal with the state gov't.

 

[caryc]

Wolfie,

You and I both know you're fighting a losing battle. Just consider the source. Some people just feel they are so superior because they can say "Hey look at me, I don't live in California".

I guess they just forgot where they do live. It's called the United States of America. I look at those people as being kind of "small" in my book and they keep going out of their way to prove it to me.

 

[Merle1948]

In another thread here, the periodical California bashing has raised its ugly head yet again. In rponse, I offer these numerical facts. While there is much to hold disdain for in California, there are other aspects that you just can't live without. For your consideration:

California is the nation's leader in almond growing. It is also the nation's leading dairy state, with milk and cream being its greatest export, followed by grapes.

Here are some percentages to ponder:

Pomegranates - 100% of nation's crop
Artichokes - 99
Kiwis - 97
Olives - 96
Figs - 96
Pluots - 95
Plums & prunes - 94
Brussels sprouts - 93
Avocados - 90
Nectarines - 89
Garlic - 85
Celery - 83
Grapes - 83
Dates - 82
Cauliflower - 82
Broccoli - 81
Lemons - 79
Honey dew melons - 77
Tomatoes - 76
Lettuce - 73
Nuts - many varieties - 65
Carrots - 62
Strawberries - 59
Spinach - 54
Tangerines - 58
Asparagus - 47
Cantaloupes - 46
Peaches - 44
Limes - 42
Oranges - non-Valencia - 37 (Valencias are used for orange juice. Florida leads production of juice oranges. Those Navel oranges that you like to peel and eat come from California)

California also contributes to the beef, poultry, wool and cotton consumption of the nation and the world. You can look those numbers up, if you wish.

While some other states provide larger numbers of some staples such as wheat, oats, corn and potatoes, California fills the pantries and tables of the nation with all the rest, by comparison. What grows in Tennessee, besides some very pretty mountains?

Laugh and hate all you care to. Just remember to thank a California farmer for his contributions to your well fed life.

Peace and God bless, Wolfsong.

I'm pretty sure it isn't the farmers that people have a beef with. :mrgreen:

 

[Paul B]

Figs - 96

If all those figs are coming from California, who the hell is getting them. Either they;re not leaving the state or they're all going somewhere but not here. :x Well, I've fixed that problem. Planted two fig trees in my back yard just last week. They're small but already have fruit starting. 8)
As far as bashing CA, I know what a great state it used to be. I even beat their system a time or three. Used to work part time in a gun store. You bought a handgun back then there was a 3 day waiting period while the cops came to your door sometime in those 3 days to make sure you were you and you really lived there. I'd buy the gun and just take it home and keep my mouth shut while the Gestapo checked me out.
I was born and raised in San Francisco and left when I was 22 to do my military service. Came back, moved to Las Vegas for a while, then back to SF until vdery late 1967 when I moved to Reno NV to be with the woman who has been my wife ever since. The only time I ever went back might be for family birthdays if I could get off work or holidays, again if I could get off work. Family's all dead and gone now so the chance I'd ever go back to the land of fruits, nuts and flakes is less than none unless forced at gunpoint and even then I'd refuse to go.
Paul B.

 

[wolfsong]

Can I still bash California Wolfie?

I don't eat a lot of the items listed. :lol:

Bash all you'd like, it's your choice. Enjoy your mundane epicurean lifestyle. That is also your choice.

Me, I enjoy varied and adventurous epicurean fare on my table. To each, his own. Last night JuanIta and I enjoyed steamed asparagus, baked potatoes with butter and sour cream, baked parmesan tomatoes with oregano, barbecued chateau briand with from-scratch bearnaise sauce (egg yolks, clarified butter, cracked black peppercorns, fresh tarragon, shallots, red wine vinegar), grilled Pacific shrimp with butter, lemon and garlic, fresh strawberries and cream, and a rather nice bottle of 1996 Guenoc Vineyards petite syrah, all California grown and produced in California, except for the shrimp. But it was a California skipper who harvested them. Just our usual Saturday night celebration of living through another week...

Peace and God bless, Wolfsong.

 

[Bull Barrel]

And they spend the most on welfare and the San Joaquin valley the most depressed area in the country. Ca has 12% of the nation's population and 33% of the nation's welfare recipients. And they wonder why the state is in debt.

 

[Selena]

Can I still bash California Wolfie?

I don't eat a lot of the items listed. :lol:

Bash all you'd like, it's your choice. Enjoy your mundane epicurean lifestyle. That is also your choice.

Me, I enjoy varied and adventurous epicurean fare on my table. To each, his own. Last night JuanIta and I enjoyed steamed asparagus, baked potatoes with butter and sour cream, baked parmesan tomatoes with oregano, barbecued chateau briand with from-scratch bearnaise sauce (egg yolks, clarified butter, cracked black peppercorns, fresh tarragon, shallots, red wine vinegar), grilled Pacific shrimp with butter, lemon and garlic, fresh strawberries and cream, and a rather nice bottle of 1996 Guenoc Vineyards petite syrah, all California grown and produced in California, except for the shrimp. But it was a California skipper who harvested them. Just our usual Saturday night celebration of living through another week...

Peace and God bless, Wolfsong.

Hi Wolf,

In some places I hear a lot of Indiana bashing (mostly Chicago based antique boards.) Perhaps you might consider my strategy... They can stroke their sense of superiority all they like but I'm the one that has a pasture and a woodlot out my back window. I've heard good things about the Pacific Ocean, Mount Shasta (not sure it's in Cali but insert an appropriate mountain), Napa Valley and Big Sur.

 

[hittman]

We get our share of the same here in Illinois but, I'll admit that CA bashing is the worst by far.

Now, why Californians allow it to bother them so much is beyond me.

It doesn't help your cause much that many say something like "As goes CA, so goes the nation". Conservatives outside CA find that a frightening concept.

 

[powder smoke]

Ca. is deserving and earned most of it's bashings. Not ur fault Wolfie just saying

 

[wolfsong]

Yes, Selena, Mt. Shasta is in California. So is Mt. Whitney, the tallest mountain in the contiguous states. There are many peaks in the 14,000 feet range in the Sierra Nevada...

Wolfie.

 

[AJGUNNER]

Me, I enjoy varied and adventurous epicurean fare on my table. To each, his own. Last night JuanIta and I enjoyed steamed asparagus, baked potatoes with butter and sour cream, baked parmesan tomatoes with oregano, barbecued chateau briand with from-scratch bearnaise sauce (egg yolks, clarified butter, cracked black peppercorns, fresh tarragon, shallots, red wine vinegar), grilled Pacific shrimp with butter, lemon and garlic, fresh strawberries and cream, and a rather nice bottle of 1996 Guenoc Vineyards petite syrah, all California grown and produced in California, except for the shrimp. But it was a California skipper who harvested them. Just our usual Saturday night celebration of living through another week...

Peace and God bless, Wolfsong.

Please forward dinner invite anytime you need another mouth to feed. This sounds like one mighty fine saturday night feast.
I have to admit though that Oregon does have far better Strawberries---even if the season only last about 2 weeks of the year. :lol:

 

[hittman]

Lots of beautiful country in CA. I've driven from LA to San Jose and it's got some remarkable views. Have driven from SF to Lake Tahoe too and everybody should experience that at least once.

I prefer the area around Carmel and Monterey to far southern CA but, that's just me. If you haven't visited the aquarium in Monterey, it's worth the trip.

 

[wolfsong]

AJ, the invite is a standing and open one. I always do the cooking on Saturdays, but you never know what the menu will be. You won't leave hungry, though! If you do, it's your own fault!

Peace and God bless, Wolfie.

 

[Rick Courtright]

Now, why Californians allow it to bother them so much is beyond me.

Hi,

Perhaps because it's become so tediously repetitious? Also incredibly ignorant. And did I mention tediously repetitive? Plus incredibly ignorant. Tediously repetitive, too.

Notice a pattern developing? :roll:

Rick C

 

[TRanger]

In defense of Tennessee, the state contributes 100% of the nation's supply of Jack Daniel's.

 

[Sturgis270]

Dam Wolf...I got hungry just reading that meal description!!

 

[Rick Courtright]

Yes, Selena, Mt. Shasta is in California. So is Mt. Whitney, the tallest mountain in the contiguous states. There are many peaks in the 14,000 feet range in the Sierra Nevada...

Hi,

Wolfie, please help me out here if you can: in your travels throughout this State, have you ever found a volcano? I've heard we have 'em, and have looked and looked...

Maybe Bucks can help us in the search, too?

Rick C

 

[caryc]

In defense of Tennessee, the state contributes 100% of the nation's supply of Jack Daniel's.

I don't drink so that doesn't impress me.

 

[wolfsong]

Yes, Selena, Mt. Shasta is in California. So is Mt. Whitney, the tallest mountain in the contiguous states. There are many peaks in the 14,000 feet range in the Sierra Nevada...

Hi,

Wolfie, please help me out here if you can: in your travels throughout this State, have you ever found a volcano? I've heard we have 'em, and have looked and looked...

Maybe Bucks can help us in the search, too?

Rick C

I know of a town called Volcano, but haven't run across an actual volcano...

Sounds like a road trip/expedition just might be in order! Maybe do some quail and grouse hunting along the way? I'll bring the camp kitchen...

Peace and God bless, Wolfie.

 

[opos]

Sigh

 

[redhawker]

As for volcanos. Lassen Park is a volcano. There's several small ones out in the desert east of the San Bernardino area, Amboy Crater is a notable one. Mammoth craters up near Mammoth in the Eastern Sierras is threatening to become active, some recent seismic activity there.

As for criticism of Commiefornia (as I call it) I have no beef (unless you're talking about the kind of beef you eat) with the Ca. farmers and ranchers. The problem resides in Sacramento and the dimwitocrats we send to D.C.. And that problem stems from areas like LA, San Francisco and other such liberal enclaves that, due to having a majority of the population, are able to out vote the rest of the state. I've said it before, if you looked at a voting map of Commiefornia it would be about 3/4 red but the blue 1/4 still out votes them.

To me, the people that produce what Wolf listed are not the problem and would not get any criticism from me, in fact, they are the only hope for this state IMHO. I live here and I do love the natural wonders in this state, the climate and other such advantages of living here, however, due to that 1/4 blue area I will continue to complain and criticize and, yes, "bash" (if you want to call it that), this state. And, if my circumstances were different I would likely move out of Commiefornia to one of the "free" states, which many of you on this forum enjoy.

 

[GunnyGene]

What's your point, Wolfsong? Flyover country, the South, etc. all get bashed by the people who live on the coasts, often much more insulting than what CA gets. Get over it :roll: .

 

[mojo]

I live in the San Joaquin Valley and I'm not depressed,and I'm six hours or less from Lake Tahoe,Monterey,Central Coast,and everything in LA,and Las Vegas.