Shipping Times

Yoter

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I received this email from Bud's Guns the other day:

We are currently experiencing shipping delays on some orders, and particularly certain types of ammunition orders. We aplogize for the delay but want to assure you we are working as hard as we possibly can to get all orders shipped as soon as possible. The increased number of ammunition orders, combined with continued labor shortages, have caused us to fall substantially behind our normal shipping times.

At a time when many are focused on the negative, and assuming the worst, we would like to share some positive and hopefully calming facts with you below...

1) If you have placed an order and received a confirmation number we do have your order. Although shipping is delayed substantially beyond our standard terms, the website is automatically securing your item(s) as they are ordered. Our limited staff is currently only reaching out to customers when there is an actual issue with their order. So... not hearing from us is actually a good thing. Repeated attempts by hundreds of thousands of people to check the status of their order is not going to help expedite anyone's order. It only makes it more difficult for us to assist those relative handful of customers who actually require human assistance to resolve an issue with their existing order.

2) Our shortage is not inventory... it's people and hours in a day! We admittedly were unprepared for how a pandemic and the associated politics would affect our business... just like millions of other businesses were. Our major issue is simply not having enough people, and not enough hours in a day, to process and ship all of the orders our website is capable of accepting. We were actually dealing with the exact same issue (on a much different scale) way back in 2013. Check out this Youtube video at the 8:10 mark and you will hear a very similar story.

3) We are not alone this time; we brought +3 million friends with us! After living through those difficult learning experiences in years past, we knew we had to do something very different in order to make our Customer Service resources scalable on very short notice. Out of those experiences the Buds Community was born back in 2015. Collaborating with our +4 million customers with a vast knowledge of firearms, ammunition, and accessories to create a Q&A forum that is capable of quickly answering customer questions at a rate of 2x, 3x, or even 10x the rate of the day before. This short 8 minute Youtube video posted back in 2017 explains why the solution was created (for times like these) and how it works.

4) We have a history of facing and winning these types of challenges. After 50 years in the business, we have been faced with similar difficulties in the past and always came out stronger than when we went in. More recently, back in 2009, we saw similar increases in volume as a result of both the political dynamics at the time and the H1N1 pandemic. It is navigating through those types of experiences, and the subsequent changes that we made, that allow us to continue to operate today under extreme conditions. We were admittedly not prepared well enough to handle this latest challenge without experiencing some delays and other inconveniences. However, you can rest assured that we have been around long enough, and been through enough, to come out the other side of this challenge, along with you, stronger than when we went in.

We are here for you and in this with you. "Budsgunshop" is not just another company name on internet. We are over 200 individuals with families of our own at home to support and care for. We are going to continue to do the very best we can for you at an extremely difficult time. Unfortunately, our best at this time is likely going to be woefully short of what it has been in years past, and definitely not up to your expectations of "Buds." For those of you that have any patience left at all, we would greatly appreciate you sharing that with us... as patience may actually be the only thing in shorter supply than people willing to work at this time.

Rex McClanahan
President
Budsgunshop.com LLC
 
Recently, their shipping times have been delayed. It seems that they have accepted their recent sub-par service and expect their customers to do the same.

Any thoughts or other personal experiences regarding shipping times (not delivery times) lately?
 
In our businesses of outdoor power equipment and in the machining and fabrication side, our vendors are all doing well...IF they have the product to ship! I've also not seen much in the way of shipping and processing order slow downs in the stuff I personally order from places like Amazon, Sam's Club or Walmart.
As an example, McMaster Carr still almost never fails to ship same day, so they've managed to deal with the issue. I order from them anywhere from about once to 4-5 times per week.

Other side of this is I just ordered a leather recliner from Hancock & Moore in North Carolina and was told to expect it in late August to mid September. They must have to wait for the cows to get big enough to skin. Have a friend restoring a 69 Road Runner and Legendary told him to expect 10-11 months to sew his seat covers.
And look at holster makers......
 
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Repeated attempts by hundreds of thousands of people to check the status of their order is not going to help expedite anyone's order.
If they invested in a good computer system, people could check the status of their order without talking to anyone or taking up anyone’s time.
 
I have also noted longer shipping times for Amazon lately.
 
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It's been some months back, I placed an order for a firearm with Bud's. I was given delivery window dates of when to expect the firearm to be delivered to my FFL. I made sure he would be available during this time period. Well, long after it was due, UPS attempted delivery at my FFL. He was now on vacation, but was still in contact with me. He told me to get with either UPS or Bud's to have the product held, or the recipient changed to a different FFL. I attempted multiple times with no joy. UPS said to contact Bud's to have the delivery forwarded to another FFL. Bud's refused any help to me. Bud's was even snarky about it, and somehow said I was to blame, because my FFL was not available to receive the product, even though it was a week beyond the expected window. The firearm was returned to Bud's, and they charged me a 50-dollar restocking fee. I have never bought from Bud's again, and I cancelled my membership with them.

Sad thing is, I've been a long time customer of Bud's with good results. When life is easy and they're making money, I'm an honored customer. When things go awry, and maybe some extra effort is involved, I was quickly kicked to the curb.

The snarky little girl I talked to on the phone, I wish she'd come to work for me, just so I could fire her.







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ive been saying this for decades.
the gun industry isnt your friend. they just want your money.

and now...they suck you into internal affair issues that should never come in con tact with a customer.
i want it.
i buy it.
you give it to me.
done.

how you get it.
when you stock it.
who you get it from.
how it gets to you
what your employee status is
how hard youre working to fill orders


.........i can care less.

im not paying dealers to tap dance and sing me a song.
excuses are like armpits. everyones got one and they all stink.
sad state affairs this great nation has become.
 
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i heard my wife laying into our phone company for poor service. i think she nailed it....

'you have only one job to do. do it."

same goes for a gun dealer. if youre gonna rape us with ffl transfer fees, and high prices....dont expect me to feel sorry for you. youre not the only game in town and youre not the only one suffering in the national crisis.

seems to me the new american business model is grab good customers, but as soon as they catch onto the game, dump them and get new naive meat, then repeat.
 
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I have also noted longer shipping times for Amazon lately.
It is not Amazon per se so much as the company selling the item. If I purchase an item through Amazon I check all the different companies selling the same item. Takes a little extra time but I haven't had any long delays in anything I have ever ordered using Amazon.
 
Very interesting. I get a number of guns forwarded to me from buds to transfer. At no time do I ever get a notification up front from buds and usually not from the customer either. I just get a box in the mail and if it weren't for the fact that they was a label in it telling me who bought it, I wouldn't have a clue.
Yes, I do charge transfer fees. It takes my time to track down the person who bought it and set up an appointment with them to transfer it and I don't work for free. If that's what you call "raping" you then I guess don't send me a gun to be transferred.
 
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