Save the Joshua trees?

[41Dude]

More California insanity. Do the politicians have any clue why so many people are leaving?

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/property-owners-recoil-cost-burden-100000407.html

 

[the_leper_colony]

I worked out there, many, many years ago, and the trend was obvious, even then. I told folks, "If you keep this up, the entire state will be one big, beautiful park - and everyone who lives in California will be homeless and starving, and sleeping on park benches." People thought I was joking...

 

[txramfan]

Where my brother built a house in Idaho he was required to build swales to prevent water leaving his property and going to the lake he lives near.
Cost him thousands to protect a lake.
Why would Idaho force land owners to protect a lake that isn't next to a persons property ?

 

[41Dude]

Where my brother built a house in Idaho he was required to build swales to prevent water leaving his property and going to the lake he lives near.
Cost him thousands to protect a lake.
Why would Idaho force land owners to protect a lake that isn't next to a persons property ?

Did he move from California?

 

[txramfan]

Does it matter?

 

[41Dude]

Does it matter?

The OP was about California and Joshua trees.

 

[NH Rugerman]

I cannot imagine living in California quite honestly, there is NO FREEDOM there anymore….IMHO

 

[txramfan]

The OP was about California and Joshua trees.

I read the link.
Its about costs to a property owner who wants to build on a lot.
Many states impose fees because of regional issues.
I simply pointed out how a area in Idaho also forces a property owner to spend thousands because of a regional issue.

A high school friend almost 50 years ago moved to Joshua Tree, he was from back east. NJ iirc.
I guess he was part of the great migration that was accepted by California, not vilified as many do anyone or anything associated with CA.

 

[turd]

Wow, you can argue about ANYTHING on the Ruger Forum. Isn't it great? Like a microcosim of America today.

 

[DGW1949]

I cannot imagine living in California quite honestly, there is NO FREEDOM there anymore….IMHO

I hear ya....Wild horses couldn't drag me to California, even if they was giving away free land.

DGW

 

[Jeepnik]

And yet, you do realize free land is one of the reasons so many from the Midwest moved here? They destroyed their land and now their descendants are destroying the state.

 

[41Dude]

Wow, you can argue about ANYTHING on the Ruger Forum. Isn't it great? Like a microcosim of America today.

Mind your own business. Leave me alone. The dog ate my homework.
Oh, wait, you are funny. Never mind

 

[41Dude]

And yet, you do realize free land is one of the reasons so many from the Midwest moved here? They destroyed their land and now their descendants are destroying the state.

Same thing here in Idaho. Pandemic transplants (from all over) have skyrocketed the price of land and houses.
So far, we are avoiding most of the political insanity that goes along with mass migration.

 

[41Dude]

I read the link.
Its about costs to a property owner who wants to build on a lot.
Many states impose fees because of regional issues.
I simply pointed out how a area in Idaho also forces a property owner to spend thousands because of a regional issue.

A high school friend almost 50 years ago moved to Joshua Tree, he was from back east. NJ iirc.
I guess he was part of the great migration that was accepted by California, not vilified as many do anyone or anything associated with CA.

I get it. My apologies. It is amazing how government geniuses can make ANYTHING harder and more difficult.

 

[txramfan]

I dislike what has happened to our country almost as much as I dislike what happened to my home state.

 

[Paul B]

The year was 1968. I left california for good, never to return as a resident. The only times I might go back was for relatives birthdays and to see close friends. They've all been long gone, passed away so the odds of me ever going across California's borders is extremely slim and mostly none.
My immediate family said I was out of my mind for leaving California but my reasons were partly personal and I didn't like the way the state was headed. Time and history have proven I wasn't all that crazy after all. I made a good life starting in Nevada and later moving to Arizona. It's pretty hard to say the grass was greener for each move but life was one hell of a lot better.. You can't beat that with any kind of ugly stick.
Paul B.
PS: Don't ask me what I think needs to be done with those idiots in Sacramento.
PB

 

[turd]

All pissin' and moanin' aside, these laws are there for good reason most of the time. I used to know a guy that owned a cabin within the St. Croix National Scenic River Corridor in Minnesota. He was pissed because he had to use approved colors for his cabin when he painted it. I asked why he bought a cabin there then - well because the river corridor is so beautiful. Anyone see the paradox? Also in Minnesota where everyone wants to live on the lakeside, there are laws against using fertilizer within x feet of the shoreline. People Rosie O'Donnell about this all the time, yet they want their lake to be clean and clear.

 

[Randyzzz]

All pissin' and moanin' aside, these laws are there for good reason most of the time. I used to know a guy that owned a cabin within the St. Croix National Scenic River Corridor in Minnesota. He was pissed because he had to use approved colors for his cabin when he painted it. I asked why he bought a cabin there then - well because the river corridor is so beautiful. Anyone see the paradox? Also in Minnesota where everyone wants to live on the lakeside, there are laws against using fertilizer within x feet of the shoreline. People Rosie O'Donnell about this all the time, yet they want their lake to be clean and clear.

I totally understand the fertilizer issue. We are supposed to be responsible stewards of this beautiful land God has blessed us with. Now, the approved colors thing I’m on the fence about. You want to have homes in a scenic corridor to reflect the beauty of an area, not detract. I guess approved colors in the form of “here’s my choice, is that ok” would work for me- but if someone showed me a list that I had to pick from, well that’s another story.

I escaped from California for the second time in 2000. Never to return. Their laws, policies and political leanings support those who are driving the state to ruin. It’s too bad-California is a beautiful state with an amazing climate.

 

[el caminero]

My first thought was, i dont have that album. So i read it, and remembered a wayback story about people going out and digging them up to transplant in their yard. Some dident even get as far as the hiway fence to dig them. Like saguaroe, they are legally protected. Also, a very desert plant, and they die quickly from rootrot and they swell up and split open from being watered. Which to them is being grossly overwatered. They blame manmade global warming and other such pollution for killing their often-illegal plants.
Dont know why they complain about not enough water...coupla years ago on a run thru their heavenly valley i noticed merced was using their large parkinglots to store water, without even bothering to remove the cars.

 

[foolslife]

We escaped Cali for AZ in 1977. Friends and family thought we were crazy. Now they're envious.