Ruger om vaquero

[Garand95]

Hey guys so I got a guy on cal guns who wants to sell me his old model vaquero in 44mag Blued with color case hardened it has an action tune and has never been fired he's asking 700 for it would that be too much?

 

[Sugar River]

Yes.

 

[hittman]

....especially having been "modified" by Lord knows who and/or how ....

Welcome to the Forum.

 

[Varminterror]

It has had the action tuned but never fired? 'Cuz that sounds legit...

$700 for an original blued/cch Vaquero in .44 is on the high end. Too high, eh, it's your money. But you can buy that revolver for $550 pretty easily. I collect the stainless original 44mag Vaq's, the stainless models draw more than the blue/cch's, and I usually pass when they get to $700.

 

[Bear Paw Jack]

I'm guessing unless he runs in the right circles, he'd be hitting the jackpot if he got someone to give him $600 for it. That's what I'm finding. Market is soft right now.

 

[Garand95]

I read the post wrong it has been fired he is asking to much il make an offer for 550 for it and see what he says

 

[DGW1949]

"Action tune" is a big red flag for me.
Unless the seller could provide documentation that any/all aftermarket work was done by a reputable gun smith, I'd politely pass.

DGW

 

[powder smoke]

Spot on! DGW gave you some good advice a bad action job is bad news. ps

 

[DeletedMember275]

"Action tune" is a big red flag for me.
Unless the seller could provide documentation that any/all aftermarket work was done by a reputable gun smith, I'd politely pass.

DGW

^^ This ^^

Who knows what kind of gun butcher attacked the innards of that gun? Unless he's got a 'build sheet' from a reputable gunsmith, that alone would make me pass.

 

[milgunsguy]

Nothing worse than fixing something that ain't broke.

 

[Bear Paw Jack]

I've was the original owner of four OM Vaqueros.

NONE of them needed any action work.

Nothing worse than fixing something that ain't broke.

Agreed. I've got over a half dozen of them, all 45 Colt and 44 Mag and NONE of them have needed any work either.

 

[Rclark]

've was the original owner of four OM Vaqueros.

NONE of them needed any action work.

That is probably true as there is no such thing as an OM Vaquero . All are New Models both the original and the New Vaquero.

That said, all of mine DID need action jobs (whether BHs or Vaqueros). All my shooters get the treatment. Once you know what a good action should feel like, there is no going back... I'd have no problem with buying a gun with an action job as long as I could check it out before I bought it. Parts aren't that hard to find anyway if something was amiss.

 

[street]

 

[mike campbell]

In order for there to be a "new" Vaquero, there has to be an "old" Vaquero. If there are 2 Vaquero models, one is old and one is new, no matter what is written on it.

There are New Model Blackhawks (says so right on the frame) and "old model" Blackhawks which, in the vernacular, means the 3-screw design. They don't say "Old Model" on the frame.

There are New Vaqueros (says so right on the frame) and "old model" Vaqueros which, in the vernacular, means the large-frame version. They don't say "Old Model" on the frame any more than an "old model" Blackhawk does, but, if you think they don't exist, you could miss out on some good auctions and "for sale" ads.

 

[street]

In order for there to be a "new" Vaquero, there has to be an "old" Vaquero. If there are 2 Vaquero models, one is old and one is new, no matter what is written on it.

There are New Model Blackhawks (says so right on the frame) and "old model" Blackhawks which, in the vernacular, means the 3-screw design. They don't say "Old Model" on the frame.

There are New Vaqueros (says so right on the frame) and "old model" Vaqueros which, in the vernacular, means the large-frame version. They don't say "Old Model" on the frame any more than an "old model" Blackhawk does, but, if you think they don't exist, you could miss out on some good auctions and "for sale" ads.

WELL PUT

There are a lot of Old Model collectors that think that only the 3 screw Old Model Rugers are collectible. They hate the New Models and can't stand for one of the New Models the be call an Old Model. That is the thinking of the Colt, Smith, and Winchester collectors back in the day when we started collecting Rugers. They said that they will never be collectable. Sort of like the far left press said that Donald Trump would never be president. Well just like the far left press, you old model collectors can just get over it, because a lot of New Model collectors will call the 1st model Vaqueros Old Model Vaqueros because they are the older model Vaquero. :wink:

 

[Ale-8(1)]

I want an Old Model Vaquero in .45 Long Colt.

 

[street]

I want an Old Model Vaquero in .45 Long Colt.

Be careful you will get jumped on for calling it a "LONG COLT"

 

[Ale-8(1)]

Ya think?

:wink: :wink: :wink: :twisted: :wink: :wink: :wink:

 

[Rclark]

Well, ya try to educate/enlighten ... but ... just doesn't seem to 'stick' very well these days . So it goes. :?

I want an Old Model Vaquero in .45 { Long } Colt.

Me too... But we'll never see it happen unless a gunsmith turns an Old Model into a fixed sighted revolver... Which I've seen at least one...

 

[Bear Paw Jack]

I want an Old Model Vaquero in .45 Long Colt.

Be careful you will get jumped on for calling it a "LONG COLT"

Ale-8 you've got good taste. Glad I have a few. Nice big bullet can refocus a bad guys plans. I call it Long Colt as well.

 

[Ale-8(1)]

It's all good.

RC and I play the Colt/Long Colt skirmish these days just because why not, and I have given up getting my stuff twisted over the OM/NM thing. Folks can call 'em Third Model Whifflesnafflers for all I care.

:wink: :wink: :wink:

 

[Chuck 100 yd]

In order for there to be a "new" Vaquero, there has to be an "old" Vaquero. If there are 2 Vaquero models, one is old and one is new, no matter what is written on it.

There are New Model Blackhawks (says so right on the frame) and "old model" Blackhawks which, in the vernacular, means the 3-screw design. They don't say "Old Model" on the frame.

There are New Vaqueros (says so right on the frame) and "old model" Vaqueros which, in the vernacular, means the large-frame version. They don't say "Old Model" on the frame any more than an "old model" Blackhawk does, but, if you think they don't exist, you could miss out on some good auctions and "for sale" ads.

Exactly !!! Thank you ! Tired of people whining about verbage when they understand exactly what you are refering to.

 

[street]

In order for there to be a "new" Vaquero, there has to be an "old" Vaquero. If there are 2 Vaquero models, one is old and one is new, no matter what is written on it.

There are New Model Blackhawks (says so right on the frame) and "old model" Blackhawks which, in the vernacular, means the 3-screw design. They don't say "Old Model" on the frame.

There are New Vaqueros (says so right on the frame) and "old model" Vaqueros which, in the vernacular, means the large-frame version. They don't say "Old Model" on the frame any more than an "old model" Blackhawk does, but, if you think they don't exist, you could miss out on some good auctions and "for sale" ads.

Exactly !!! Thank you ! Tired of people whining about verbage when they understand exactly what you are refering to.

Thank you!!!!! That has always been my point. Now if we can educate the "Old Model Collectors" that it is not an insult to their old models when we use the term Old Model Vaquero! Remember this! All Vaqueros are "New Models", even the old model vaqueros are new models. :wink:

 

[robertkirksey]

There are Vaqueros and there are New Vaqueros. There is no such thing as an Old Model Vaquero. Call it the Original Vaquero or the Bigger Vaquero or the .44 Frame Vaquero or anything other than Old Model. Old Model refers to the lockwork of the original Ruger revolvers without the transfer bar. ALL Vaqueros have the transfer bar and therefore cannot be Old Model anything.

You are simply confusing those people who do not know.

 

[mike campbell]

Call it the Original Vaquero or the Bigger Vaquero or the .44 Frame Vaquero or anything other than Old Model.

OK, I'll call em OM Vaqueros.....Original Model Vaqueros. :twisted: :lol:

Any Ruger fan worth his salt should be able to describe an OM Blackhawk, OM Single Six, OM Super Blackhawk and OM Vaquero.

 

[Dos Vaqueros]

All my Vaqueros get 3 new springs. A 15lb hammer spring, a 30oz trigger return spring, and an extra power base pin spring.

 

[street]

There are Vaqueros and there are New Vaqueros. There is no such thing as an Old Model Vaquero. Call it the Original Vaquero or the Bigger Vaquero or the .44 Frame Vaquero or anything other than Old Model. Old Model refers to the lockwork of the original Ruger revolvers without the transfer bar. ALL Vaqueros have the transfer bar and therefore cannot be Old Model anything.

You are simply confusing those people who do not know.

Thank you for your opinion. There are a lot of people that believe as you do and that's OK. I don't have a problem with that. On the other hand I also have the right to call it what I like. And there are a lot of people that believe the way I do. They don't usually voice their opinion because they usually get a lot of flack for doing so. That being said I respectfully agree to disagree with you. I just like the sound of Old Model Vaquero. :wink:

As for confusing people how about this. You could have a brand new Vaquero that has never been shot from the factory, in the box with all the papers and it would be called an "OLD VAQUERO". Then you could have a Vaquero that has all the blueing rubbed off and with rusted parts on it, the grips would be scared up and it would be called a "NEW VAQUERO". Now that's confusing and I don't care who you are. Either way you say it people that are not familiar with Rugers won't know what you are talking about. If you know Rugers then when you say Old Model Vaquero, then everyone that is familiar with rugers will know which model you are talking about. They will know it's not a New Vaquero model. If someone says they have a Vaquero, and I don't know if they are familiar with Rugers then I will ask if the serial number prefix is 2 digits or 3 digits, because I don't know if it's an Old Model Vaquero or a New Vaquero.